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DanaNM replied to the topic Trio bonding… again (Myra, Bonnie, Cooper) in the forum BONDING 2 years, 11 months ago
Welp, that didn’t go well at ALL. š„
Everything was going fine until about 3 am. Then seemingly out of nowhere Myra started really instigating fights with Bonnie, which then caused Coop to get involved an all fired up (he tends to really fight aggressively when he fights). Some of the worst fighting I’ve seen since starting to work with them.…[Read more]
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DanaNM replied to the topic Potential E.cuniculi + URI: Hind Limb Weakness in the forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A 2 years, 11 months ago
I think what Bam meant was that the lowered immune system that lead to the URI could have been the first symptom, not that the URI symptoms themselves were EC symptoms (correct me if I’m wrong though Bam!).
Flare-ups would be periods of symptoms, indicating the parasite is reproducing the the bun. There truly is a lot that even vets don’t know…[Read more]
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Em replied to the topic Potential E.cuniculi + URI: Hind Limb Weakness in the forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A 2 years, 11 months ago
When you say flare up, is that when the EC gets bad to the point it shows obvious symptoms? Is it not worth treating preventatively, say every 4/6 months, to stop further potential damage if it can lurk silently in the shadows like that?
I didnāt even think it was possible for EC to present as an URI. There really is so much about this disease t…[Read more]
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Bam replied to the topic Potential E.cuniculi + URI: Hind Limb Weakness in the forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A 2 years, 11 months ago
The URI could be the “first symptom” of an ec flare-up, since e c suppresses the immune defense. When the immune defense of an animal (or human) is suppressed, bacteria and other microbes that are normally present in the environment without causing harm, can seize the opportunity to start to multiply and cause illness. Then in turn the bacterial…[Read more]
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Em replied to the topic Potential E.cuniculi + URI: Hind Limb Weakness in the forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A 2 years, 11 months ago
Would you say the URI is secondary to the EC despite him being diagnosed with a staph infection in May of 2022?
he was diagnosed with staph from a nasal swab. So I actually donāt know as to whether it was misdiagnosed due to possible pathogen. My vet did say he had a hard time believing it was ājustā a staph an infection given then stubborn natur…[Read more]
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LBJ10 replied to the topic Pet Insurance in the forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A 2 years, 11 months ago
I’m only aware of Nationwide.
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LBJ10 replied to the topic Potential E.cuniculi + URI: Hind Limb Weakness in the forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A 2 years, 11 months ago
So… staphycoccus is an opportunistic pathogen. It’s one of many bacteria that can just be present, but not causing any problems. Then a dip in the immune system from, say, an EC flare can give the bacteria the opportunity it needs to take over and cause an infection. I’m going to guess the URI is simply secondary to the EC. It’s possible his…[Read more]
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DanaNM replied to the topic Potential E.cuniculi + URI: Hind Limb Weakness in the forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A 2 years, 11 months ago
So, with arthritis, gentle movement is encouraged, but high impact movements can cause more damage. I think allowing him to roam but removing chances to jump on things and making sure he has good traction everywhere would be OK.
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Em replied to the topic Potential E.cuniculi + URI: Hind Limb Weakness in the forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A 2 years, 11 months ago
Good to know! Iāll continue on with metacam so. I have him on a pre & probiotic, but Iāll definitely look into the suggestion for a stomach guard if we continue with metacam long term. Iāve found another exotic vet Iāll give a call in the morning and see if theyād be able to fit him in at some point.
I did read about the blood test being a t…[Read more]
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DanaNM replied to the topic Potential E.cuniculi + URI: Hind Limb Weakness in the forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A 2 years, 11 months ago
Dang I had a whole reply typed out that must not have posted!
So, testing for EC is often unreliable, and may not be able to distinguish between an active infection that’s causing symptoms and a past infection. Often vets will treat on suspicion, but it is common for there to be some prompting from the owner for this to happen, unless there are…[Read more]
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Bam replied to the topic Potential E.cuniculi + URI: Hind Limb Weakness in the forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A 2 years, 11 months ago
0.76 ml panacur 10% is 20 mg per kilo body weight for a 3.8 kilo bun. That is the correct dosage for treatment of EC.
28 days is standard treatment for EC, but some vets extend it to 5 weeks if they see fit.
Rabbits as a rule tolerate metacam long term very well (Medirabbit). I had an elderbun who was on a high dose of metacam (1.2 mg/kilo twice…[Read more]
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Kyle started the topic Pet Insurance in the forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A 2 years, 11 months ago
My previouse bunny used to have insurance through nationwide which reimbursed 90%, however i went to setup insurance for my new bunny this afternoon and it seems they now only cover 70%. Are there any other recommended providers anyone has delt with that insure bunnies?
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Em replied to the topic Potential E.cuniculi + URI: Hind Limb Weakness in the forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A 2 years, 11 months ago
He doesnāt appreciate syringe feeding; often getting him to take his meds is a struggle, but heās a lot better with it now! Iāve just increased his pellets, more veggies, and making hay more interesting to eat – but I might try offering critical care cookies and see how he likes those!
As for dosage, heās on 0.76ml panacur (10% dog/cat suspens…[Read more]
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Bam replied to the topic Potential E.cuniculi + URI: Hind Limb Weakness in the forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A 2 years, 11 months ago
I totally agree with Dana, do not beat yourself up. I had a GSD whose lower back arthritis first presented as hind end paralysis. So I understand why your vet first thought of age related spinal/joint/ nerve root problem in a 6 y old Frenchie.
EC is still not fully understood, but I think many vets now know it can present in many other ways than…[Read more]
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DanaNM replied to the topic Trio bonding… again (Myra, Bonnie, Cooper) in the forum BONDING 2 years, 11 months ago
Trying again with a larger bonding area. I was out of town for a week so things backtracked a little (although hubby did do 1 session with them thankfully), but I’m going to try to marathon again as they usually seem to get better the longer I can have them together. I have 5 days until I start my new job… so hoping for a miracle LOL. I don’t…[Read more]
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DanaNM replied to the topic Potential E.cuniculi + URI: Hind Limb Weakness in the forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A 2 years, 11 months ago
You’re welcome! Definitely don’t beat yourself up. And yes I went almost the same sequence of events with my bridge bunny Bun Jovi. He was 13 at the time and my first vet all wrote it off as arthritis. His progression wasn’t as fast as your bun, so it took me longer to realize something else was going on. We can only go off the info we have, so…[Read more]
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Em replied to the topic Potential E.cuniculi + URI: Hind Limb Weakness in the forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A 2 years, 11 months ago
I figured it was likely EC. I was told it rarely presents without a head tilt, so was assured it was very unlikely – Ā I even bought up the fact that I thought it was more likely EC than anything else due to the fact he was immunosuppressed due to his URIā¦. But I was told heās a 6 year old frenchie so treat for arthritis before we start look…[Read more]
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DanaNM replied to the topic Potential E.cuniculi + URI: Hind Limb Weakness in the forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A 2 years, 11 months ago
This does sound like EC, I’m sorry your vet didn’t take you seriously (I’ve dealt with this as well) ! With EC, some symptoms are due to inflammation, but others are due to the damage to the nervous system. The ones due to inflammation improve with treatment, but the damage to the nervous system is permanent. Your bun will likely always have some…[Read more]
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Bam replied to the topic What kind of pellets should I give? in the forum DIET & CARE 2 years, 11 months ago
1/8 cup 2 tbl spoons) is a suitable amount for a 2 kilo (4 lb) bun, but if your bun is a little bit chubby you could lower it to 1 or 1.5 tablespoons and give half the daily amount in the morning and half in the evening.
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