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    • BinkyBunny
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        It absolutely kills me to actually have to write this –  We just got bad news a couple of days ago when Jack’s ultra sound confirmed that he has cancer.  He has a cancerous mass inside of one of his lungs that is spreading little tumors throughout his lungs.  The time that is given, (where I will have to help him peacefully pass over), isn’t very far away. Could be a few weeks to a couple of months. Right now, it makes him tired, but he still eats, lounges with Vivian, uses the litterbox just fine.  He is not struggling to breathe and I won’t let him suffer.  Right now he breathes heavy but still can enjoy a few things.  The vet suggested that when he has no more interest in anything but to just breathe, then that will be the time as it will be before any real suffering happens.  

        Vivian takes good care of him as she cuddles with him and grooms him alot these days.  She is just sticking by his side. 

        This is going to be a huge loss for us. My heart is broken. I know he’s a senior but I just imagined him being around for a couple more years. I just love that big white goofball of a bunny so much. I just can’t imagine my life without him.  So, for now, I try not to dwell on what’s coming and just love him every day.  I might cry when I first get up or as I write this post, but in general I take a few minutes to get the sadness out each day,  and then go into Jack and Vivian’s space with just love.  I don’t want to bring in any sad dark energy into their space.   

        I will keep the webcams on for only a few hours a day  from around 11am – 3pm, when I know they are the most relaxed and at peace enjoying their window box together, or hanging out on the ground near the food and hay. Also, with the cams off, I  can spend more time with Jack and Vivian.  I will probably only have the cameras on for a week at the most or until I feel things are disgressing to a point that it would not be appropriate.  Currently,  Jack still enjoys Vivian’s cuddles and he purrs, and he even tried to give her a half hearted honk and hump last night, but the cancer just makes him more tired at this point.  But you can see the sweet things on the cams and please send love, joy, peace vibes their way.    

         I changed my avatar to Jack’s binky because that is how he has lived most of his life – just a fun goofy silly emotional little spirit, and I don’t want to get caught up in this upcoming ending as that is such a small part of his overall life.   This is who Jack really is: 

         

         

        This next part is how I discovered something was wrong and maybe it would be helpful to others. 

        He has a cancerous lump inside of his left lung, (nothing you can see externally) that has spread little tumors to the rest of the lung and the other lung and causes fluid around the lungs.  Being that he is a senior bunny at an estimated 9 years old,  his gradual slow down was normal.  But a couple of weeks ago, I noticed just a little less umpf than his normal. He still ate, pooed, pursued Vivian nightly though with less energy.  It was time for him to get his regular check up so I decided to make a vet appointment to make sure it wasn’t some bladder thing returning. 

        A few days prior to the vet appointment, I noticed Jack’s breathing pattern was different.  He didn’t seem in distress, as he was acting normally that maybe I had just caught him after romping around.  But then when I spotted him at complete rest with this strange breathing patttern, I knew something was wrong and moved up the vet apointment.  Thank goodness I took video his breathingt because when Jack was stressed at the vet, you couldn’t see the strange breathing pattern, and everything else in his exam came out normal.  So when the vet looked at the video, she knew something was wrong and we had xrays done.  The xrays revealed an enlarged liver and the lungs did not look normal — which could have been due to an infection, heart problems or cancer.  But only an ultra sound would be able to reveal what was really going on and that was done days later — which confirmed cancer.

         

        NOTE: UPDATE — I originally posted that he has a mass in his chest that spread to his body, but after speaking with his vet in more detail just now,  (as I was a bit foggy headed when I first got the news), I discovered  he has a cancerous tumor that is in his left lung that has spread little tumors throughout the lungs. So if you have read this and have seen some of the details change — that is why.    I asked her if there are any causes that she was aware of this and my vet said no.   But that it is normal for older bunnies to get cancer and the time line given is based on her experiences (and she is an extremely rabbit savvy vet).  


      • Tate
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          Oh BB, I’m so sorry to hear this. Jack is living an absolutely amazing life and it’s incredible what you’ve built for him- a home, a family… This site is so totally him. From seeing him in pictures, on the webcam, or hearing about him on the forums- Jack certainly has a huge place in my heart and I think everyone on this forum will say the same. I’m not sure what circumstances you built this site on, but I thought that taking in Jack was a big part of it. Through you, he’s helped so many people become really great rabbit owners. That doesn’t die. He’s so much bigger than one little, silly bunny. My boys would not have the care they get now if I hadn’t come here. So sorry to hear about this. Focus on the days you have with him now and make him happy and comfy and loved. *hugs*


        • Monkeybun
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            Oh no jack is such an awesome bunny, we will all miss him. Give him lots of snuggles for me, he’s been one of my favorite buns on BB since I joined.

            My thoughts are with you, Vivian and Jack. Stay strong!


          • kralspace
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              oh no, Jennifer, I can’t help but cry reading this. Jack is BinkyBunny for me. I’m so sorry for what you will go through but I know your family will do everything possible to make his passing easy. Prayers and love always, Kathy


            • Sarita
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                Hugs and vibes from me. Jack is a very special rabbit and he has been lucky to have such a caring owner and to have Vivian in his golden years.

                Strength and comfort vibes to you, Jack and Vivian during this time.


              • Dee
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                  I am so sorry. You have given Jack such an amazing life- I love the picture of him doing his binky. I know that there are times when life is so painful it kind of fills up your whole world and you can’t see anything else, but I hope that knowing how much happiness and comfort you have given, and continue to give to Jack will help you through it. What you said about this being a very small part of Jack’s life is very true. His life has been about being loved by you and Vivian and having the best life a rabbit can have. You, Jack and Vivian will be in my thought and prayers.


                • Cheddar33
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                    I am so sad to read this. I love watching Jack on the cam. Sounds like he will have a wonderful rest of his life with you and Vivian.

                    I’m curious to hear about what kind of strange breathing pattern he was showing when at rest. Cheddar breathes really hard and is very nasally when he just lays down. It could just be him but just want to check with you.


                  • Queensbun
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                      I’m very sorry to hear about Jack. I’ve enjoyed the Jack & Vivian stories and spent a lot of time checking the webcams throughout the day (when I was stuck at work or at school) just to get through the day. He is a very special bunny. I am sending positive vibes your way.


                    • LoveChaCha
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                        I’m so sad and so sorry to hear about Mister Jack :'(

                        Chacha and I will continue watching Jack and Vivian together on camera.

                        His life lives through us all as he has helped us rabbit owners become better parents…
                        I’m really trying not to cry at work right now


                      • longhairmike
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                          are they going to try to put him on anything?? daily steroids didnt stop buki’s cancer, but they gave her almost superpowers for many months until near the very last few weeks. see if you can get a prednisolone prescription, it certainly wont hurt


                        • RabbitPam
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                            I just thought I’d post this cute pix of Jack I had saved once. I just love him.


                          • LittlePuffyTail
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                              My heart is breaking for you…I’m so very sorry to hear this devastating news about sweet Jack. You are such a wonderful person and I’m so sorry you have to deal with this. I can’t even imagine how difficult this is for you. Know that we are all here for you during this difficult time. Please send my love to Jack and Vivian.

                              Jack IS Binky Bunny and always will be.


                            • BinkyBunny
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                                Thank you very much for such kind words and support, it really does help us. (Steve and I) and I know all of your prayers, vibes and positive loving thoughts will benefit Jack and Vivian too.  Very comforting. .

                                It’s such a wonderful thing to hear how some of you mention how Jack represented BinkyBunny and how his life will live on through what everyone (myself included) has learned. That means soooo much.

                                THANK YOU.

                                Cheddar – I’ll try and post a video of the type of breathing Jack does. It’s not the same as noisy breathers (like Vivian). I can’t even hear him breathing like I hear Vivian. His breath isn’t a consistent smooth in and out. His chest will rise normally with an inhale, but he will exhale fast. So for example, take a normal breath in, and the push your breath out as fast as you can. That is how he breathes.

                                longhairmike — I will mention what you told me to my vet. My guess though is it may not be recommended because if I speed up his system via a steroid, and yet he doesn’t have the lung capacity to keep up with his energy level that the steroid can provide, it could cause distress. Like if a had the energy to run as fast as possible but my lungs couldn’t bring in the oxygen I needed to sustain it. But I will definitely talk to my vet about it as I only know how steroids have affected me (when I got into some very nasty poison oak and nothing worked to get rid of it except a steroid….and that kept me on the go for sure!


                              • TaraMichele
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                                  so sad and so sorry to hear this…but I think everyone on here knows how wonderful of a life he has had (even being new to binky bunny its hard not to see). I cant even imagine what you’re going through but its obvious you are a remarkably strong person and I don’t think he would get better care or more love anywhere! wishing you Jack and vivian the best*~


                                • babybunsmum
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                                    i type this thru tears because tho i’ve never met him, i love jack. he is so sweet. my fav is your vid of him and the raisin box =P i’m so so sorry bb… i understand how devastating this news is.

                                    (((((((((big hugs of comfort to you)))))))))
                                    and of course
                                    (((((((((lovey head pets for jack and viv)))))))))


                                  • MimzMum
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                                      Oh my Lord, is there nowhere this disease will not go? *shakes an angry fist*
                                      Jen, I am absolutely gutted right now reading this, so I can only imagine how you must feel. Your courage in only wanting Jack to feel the love and compassion and not the apprehension at what is to come is awe inspiring. Ironically, due to Mimzy’s rather odd moods of late, off and on inappetance and subsequent low energy, I Googled cancer in rabbits last night and was reading up on the symptoms. So seeing this post made me feel kind of like I am fresh out of the Twilight Zone.
                                      Knowing how tuned in you are to both Jack and Vivian, and all your other darling lovebunnies you’ve had, Jack is blessed indeed to have you as bunny mum to care for him. I will keep you all in my prayers and I plan on setting up a luminary for him at the Relay for Life this Friday.

                                      I don’t know what else to say. There is nothing really. Words seem so worthless at a moment like this. I wish there was more I could do…that SOMETHING could be done to avert this. But all the warm, golden, hopeful vibes I can muster are coming your way. (((((((((((((((((((((((((God Bless Jack)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

                                      Don’t hesitate to let me know if you need something. Even if it’s just an ear. I’ll be here. We all will. This wonderful place has Jack running through it always. And I would’ve been lost long ago without you, his happy face and all others who come here, drawn to the love that emanates from it.
                                      Bless you all. (((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))))))))))


                                    • Beka27
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                                        Hugs.

                                        (((Jack)))


                                      • Helenor
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                                          I’m so sorry and very sad to hear this. Jack was also the face of binkybunny since I joined. I love to look and him and Vivian on the webcams. Hugs and prayers to you and Jack.


                                        • LBJ10
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                                            Aww, poor little Jack. I’m still pretty new around here, so I don’t really know him. But he sure looks like a cutie in his picture.


                                          • Teddy'sMum
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                                              Oh no! ((((Jack)))) I was wondering why the webcam was down. I’m so so sorry. It seems like cancer will stop at nothing =( Ya’ll will be in my thoughts.


                                            • Lani
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                                                I am so sad to hear this! Poor bunny boy I’ve so enjoyed having the webcams on while I work and watching Jack & Vivian as a little “bunny break” when I get stressed. In the time I’ve been able to watch him, there have been many instances that he’s made me laugh or smile just when I need it. And I agree with the others, Jack IS BinkyBunny and he always will be.

                                                Lots of hugs and vibes to you, Jack and Vivian!!!


                                              • Huckleberry
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                                                  Thats so sad. Im so sorry to hear this. Poor Jack. I hope Vivian will be ok when Jack binkies over the rainbow. He has lived a wonderful life and you have done the very best for him. I know you wont let him suffer.
                                                  <<<>> to the whole family as well as *HUGS*
                                                  My heart goes out to you.


                                                • Bumblebunny
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                                                    I can’t believe it. I am so sorry. I try to watch them for a while several times a week


                                                  • Malp_15
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                                                      I am so sorry

                                                      His legacy will help rabbits and owners for years to come.


                                                    • Joyfull_music
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                                                        I am so sorry to hear that! I am new to the site and new to watching Jack and Vivian, but I fell in love with them both instantly. You and your family (bunny and human) are in our prayers!


                                                      • (dig)x(me)x(now)
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                                                          I’m so sad to hear about this, Jen. I will be thinking about you and your bunnies non-stop. We will be here for you through this!

                                                          Jack really is does represent Binky Bunny. Your stories and photos of him and your motivations for the website played a big part in the life Frankie has been lucky to have. You’ve taught me so much over the past couple years thanks to your little dude <3

                                                          You’ve given Jack a great life and he is lucky to be part of all our worlds.


                                                        • Kokaneeandkahlua
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                                                            ***Hugs*** {{{Jack}}}

                                                            Jack really is does represent Binky Bunny. Your stories and photos of him and your motivations for the website played a big part in the life Frankie has been lucky to have. You’ve taught me so much over the past couple years thanks to your little dude <3

                                                            You’ve given Jack a great life and he is lucky to be part of all our worlds

                                                            Well said- I feel like I know Jack from seeing his photo’s, on the webcam and hearing about him. I think many of us feel like Jack is in our extended bunny family, and hearing this news is like hearing it about one of our own.


                                                          • Michelle&Lolli
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                                                              I am so sorry to hear this. (((((HUGS)))) to all of you!


                                                            • BinkyBunny
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                                                                Though it is painful in some ways to know what’s ahead, I am grateful I am able to be aware so that I can be sure to spend more time with Jack and especially to make sure to prevent suffering.

                                                                And this also gives me the opportunity to have time to gain strength from you all. I can’t express how touched I am by everyone. Thank you so much. I have linked this thread to my toolbar so I can be sure to come here to read all the wonderful things you have said throughout this time. It gives me strength and comfort. Your love, hugs, prayers, vibes will help us through.

                                                                Jack just got finished eating some greens and snuggling with Vivian — until he decided to give her a little love honk, then he stretched out in a relaxed superman pose. So looks like the all the good vibes are helping him stay happy too.  


                                                              • LoveChaCha
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                                                                  Awww How cute BB!

                                                                  Maybe Chacha was sending him some vibes.. after I trimmed her nails tonight, she went and flopped onto her blanket and put her head on the ground and zonked out.


                                                                • Sonn
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                                                                    Oh no =( Jack if very much one of my favorite buns here on BB.

                                                                    ((((((HUGS)))))) and (((((VIBES))))) for all of you!


                                                                  • Elrohwen
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                                                                      Huge hugs from me and the buns. Jack has lived a beautiful life and I’m glad you’re able to really enjoy your final days with him. This is heartbreaking for so many of us and I can’t imagine what you’re going through.


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                                                                        Posted By (dig)x(me)x(now) on 06/02/2011 09:21 PM

                                                                        I’m so sad to hear about this, Jen. I will be thinking about you and your bunnies non-stop. We will be here for you through this!

                                                                        Jack really is does represent Binky Bunny. Your stories and photos of him and your motivations for the website played a big part in the life Frankie has been lucky to have. You’ve taught me so much over the past couple years thanks to your little dude <3

                                                                        You’ve given Jack a great life and he is lucky to be part of all our worlds.

                                                                        Wow! You hit the nail on the head with this one! You and Jack have really created something wonderful here. Its been the best resource I have found, not just for information about how to care for my baby, but for friends and other people who understand the crazy passion for binkies that the rest of the world just doesnt get. 

                                                                        Thank you for that.

                                                                        More *HUGS* and <<>> and Huckleberry sends a love bump. 


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                                                                          I just read this and I’m so sorry about Jack. It sounds like he still has such a great quality of life left in him and has a bunny wife and parents who adore him.

                                                                          I had a guinea pig I had taken in named Hunny Bunny. He was a sweetheart and would never run when I would pet him like some do. My daughter adored him too. One day I noticed a lump on his side and it was a tumor. We had it removed and before he healed up the tumor tentacles came back. It was so heartbreaking when we had to help him over the bridge. But, I was glad I was able to enjoy the time I had left with him knowing he knew he was loved and that his mom wouldn’t let him suffer at the end.


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                                                                            I went onto the webcams about a half hour ago, and I just saw one out of 4, with an empty room, in the Webcam page.

                                                                            But when I went onto the Home page, which I almost never do lately, there were Jack and Vivian all snuggled up right in front of the camera!

                                                                            So I took 4 snaps of them, assembled them into a cropped jpg and here they are. Just a lazy afternoon together, June 3, 2011.

                                                                             


                                                                          • BinkyBunny
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                                                                              That is so adorable! Thanks Pam for doing that! They’ve been snuggling up there all morning except one time when Vivian had a to take a bathroom break, so she ran down from the window box, peed quickly, and then raced back up to snuggle with Jack.

                                                                              I’m not sure why the webcam page only shows one (probably the Ustream one), but if it does that, clear your cache as sometimes I may go in and turn off a couple of the cams to check on something, and your browser may have cached it right when I was doing that.


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                                                                                I don’t know what to say that hasn’t already been said, but I could not read and run. You’re in my thoughts.


                                                                              • MimzMum
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                                                                                  Those are wonderful shots, Pam. You have a gift! My computer doesn’t pull the cam up that well, so I will have to see Jack here.
                                                                                  Sweet bunny boy! You are so loved! *happy tears*


                                                                                • LizzieKnittyBun
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                                                                                    I’m crying now, for so many reasons… for Jack’s condition, your heartbreak, and that someone as caring as you are should have to face this. This site has given me dear friends, invaluable advice, support and, last but not least, joy. You’ve been a big part of that, and the reason why we can all find these things here.

                                                                                    Just know that you have prayers, thoughts, and affection from all over the world, from people who have received so much from you and from this place and have benefited from it for life.


                                                                                  • Kokaneeandkahlua
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                                                                                      Awww Pam great shots-thats so neat you put them together like that. I am hoping I am on tomorrow when the webcam is up because I just don’t want to miss any Jack.

                                                                                      We’re all sending love hugs and prayers to you, and nose scratches and raisins to Jack. Jack has been in my thoughts all day *hugs* {{Jack}}


                                                                                    • jerseygirl
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                                                                                        Jen, I’m so sad to be reading this. Everyone has written so well what Jack (Viv and your bridge bunnies) mean to this community.
                                                                                        This boy is larger then life. He is well loved, have no doubt!

                                                                                        Just now i lit a little candle for Jack which I think i’ll do each evening. As I look at it, there is no room for the thought of the things that may take our loved pets. I just see the light and spirit – the essence of our Bunnies. Of Jack! He brings light and a smile into so many peoples lives daily.

                                                                                        You, Steve, Vivian and Jack will be very much in my thoughts. {{{{{{{{{{JACK}}}}}}}}} Every day is a gift. I hope there will be many comfortable ones ahead where he is his old “goofy” self!


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                                                                                          Beautiful little collage, Pam. They are so sweet together, the little darlings.


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                                                                                            I’m not new to Binkybunny.com but am to the forum and just wanted to offer my sympathies to you and your family. Jack is a beautiful boy and my heart goes out to you. I pray he stays comfortable and does not suffer. Our pets are our children and they bring us so much joy. Thoughts and prayers are sent your way.


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                                                                                              I am so sorry Jen. Jack has def been the symbol of BB and I will have you and your family in my thoughts. I hope he has a lot more time to share with you. *many hugs*


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                                                                                                Oh no!  I’m so sorry to hear this BB!   I don’t think there’s anymore that I can say that everyone else has said already.  Jack truely is Binkybunny!  You guys are all in my thoughts and prayers. It’s so tough to see a loved one go through that (human or animal).  ((((Jack))))  (((Vivian))) 


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                                                                                                  PEACE~JOY~LOVE VIBES COMING YOUR WAY IN ABUNDANCE FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF SOUND!!!! I’m so very sorry, Jen. My first bunny Lash passed with a large abdominal tumor, so I’ve been there, too….HUGS. Savor the little guy with Vivian. You’re in my thoughts and prayers.


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                                                                                                    I haven’t been on in a long time but I’m sorry.


                                                                                                  • osprey
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                                                                                                      Oh, BB I am so sad to hear about Jack.  That binky photo of him is sort of an icon for these boards, he is as close as we have to a mascot bunny.  He had a great life with you, and you saved him from who knows what.  He is very lucky to have been taken in by you.


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                                                                                                        I am new here but have been a lurker for awhile. I currently do not own a rabbit but became curious as it is the one pet that I knew very little about and wanted to learn more about rabbits, their habits, their needs and most of all interaction with humans.
                                                                                                        I decided to finally create an account and log in when I read about Jack. I have been watching the cameras when times allow here and have enjoyed watching Jack and Vivian, it is like having them here. I will check back to visit with Jack and Vivian and keep the cameras up as much as possible, even if there is not much happening.


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                                                                                                          Scooter was out of the country for a while, but I made sure to share this with him tonight. We’re both so sorry to hear about Jack, but at the same time relieved that you were able to discover it at this stage. Now you can keep an eye on him and make sure he’s not in distress and monitor his condition – if you hadn’t been observant enough to notice the change in his breathing you might not have found out until it was too late. At least this way you know you still have some time left to spend with him and can make them most of it.
                                                                                                          – Annette


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                                                                                                            BB This must be hard for you and him. You, your family and Jack will be in my prayers!


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                                                                                                              I do not really know what to say; I was crying when I found this out and I do every once in a while when I think of Jack.  He really helped me through the end of this past school year and again when I got my gorgeous bonded pair of holland lops.  He kind of became my mentor for how a bonded pair might act, how they move, to see how comfortable they are in the kind of environment I am hoping to give mine when we move up to school.  Goober and Pearl really like to watch Jack and Vivian which is funny and endearing (to me at least), they do not like me to pet them when they are active but they will come over and then sit on my keyboard, looking at the screen.  They have even tried to groom Jack and Vivian.  They do not watch my screen except when I have your web-cams up or a show, the latter which is rare.  Jack has done more for me than my words can convey and I hope that Vivian does not feel pain over this because I do not want to even imagine how hard this has to be for her and double hard for you.  Thank you.  This site really has become a core tool in my bunny parenting belt and Jack has been a big part of this site and my life thanks to you.  Hopefully, how many people and bunnies lives you have affected helps. 


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                                                                                                                Posted By Kokaneeandkahlua on 06/02/2011 10:10 PM
                                                                                                                ***Hugs*** {{{Jack}}}

                                                                                                                Jack really is does represent Binky Bunny. Your stories and photos of him and your motivations for the website played a big part in the life Frankie has been lucky to have. You’ve taught me so much over the past couple years thanks to your little dude <3

                                                                                                                You’ve given Jack a great life and he is lucky to be part of all our worlds

                                                                                                                Well said- I feel like I know Jack from seeing his photo’s, on the webcam and hearing about him. I think many of us feel like Jack is in our extended bunny family, and hearing this news is like hearing it about one of our own.

                                                                                                                 

                                                                                                                They are both right.  I really do think of Jack and Vivian as extended bunny family and I have learned so much from you and your buns.  Thank you again.


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                                                                                                                  Every time I log on, I see this in the web cam area:

                                                                                                                  And all I can think of is the conversation they’re having.  I like to think that rabbits, being prey species, have a much more acceptable attitude when it comes to death.  I know it’s a major anthropomorphication of them but working at a rescue you have to develop something to help.  Here’s the conversation I keep on hearing between the two of them – and as an FYI I was COL (Crying Out Loud) while writing it.

                                                                                                                  I hope you all take it in the loving spirit I mean it in.

                                                                                                                   

                                                                                                                  Hey Viv?
                                                                                                                  Yeah Jack?
                                                                                                                  I gotta go soon.
                                                                                                                  Oh?  When you coming back?
                                                                                                                  I won’t be.
                                                                                                                  What? 
                                                                                                                  Yup.  Have to make the trip across the rainbow bridge.
                                                                                                                  That sucks.  I’m going to really miss you
                                                                                                                  I’m going to miss you too.  Do me a favor, will ya?
                                                                                                                  Sure, Jack.  Anything.
                                                                                                                  Look after our slave for me?  She’s going to need the help.
                                                                                                                  You got it.

                                                                                                                  **Pause**

                                                                                                                  Hey, Jack?
                                                                                                                  Yeah?
                                                                                                                  You scared?
                                                                                                                  Nah.  Had a great time here and Ruby’s waiting for me now.
                                                                                                                  Never met her.  Say hi for me?
                                                                                                                  Sure.  And Viv?
                                                                                                                  Yeah? 
                                                                                                                  I love you.
                                                                                                                  Love you too, you honkin’ fool.
                                                                                                                   

                                                                                                                   


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                                                                                                                    …..I should not have read this at work…….now I’m COL

                                                                                                                    lovely, Mark, it’s lovely


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                                                                                                                      Awww, Mark, that’s really sweet.


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                                                                                                                        Mark, I can’t see my PC screen now….*tears*

                                                                                                                        A thought just came to me about how our animal companions may face these moments. Based on a work of fiction, but….

                                                                                                                        When the Black Rabbit came to Hazel at the end of Watership Down and asked him if he’d like to become a member of his owsla, the first thing Hazel did was look back at his warren full of bunny generations because he was loathe to leave them for love of them.

                                                                                                                        Not sure exactly where I was going with this, but I guess I mentioned it because I know that Jack will look back… This whole board is his warren and he knows all the love we are sending him. And love is the one thing I am assured crosses the bridge with all of us when our time comes, so that we don’t have to make the journey alone.

                                                                                                                        (((((((((((((((((((((((love you, Jack))))))))))))))))))))))))))


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                                                                                                                          Mark, you made my eyes tear up while walking home from work…


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                                                                                                                            Sending Jack comfort vibes so that his last days are filled with all the happiness in the world, and sending you coping vibes, so that you can enjoy the time you have left with your friend.

                                                                                                                            When I lost the horse I had cared for and loved at the ripe old age of 30 (quite old for a horse), I was happy for him, that the pains of age were ending, he was moving onto a better place where he could be free and happy forever.  But I was sad for myself, because I was losing my friend.  It’s a hard thing to handle, you have my sympathies. 


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                                                                                                                              We took in the loving spirit Mark. I still cannot stop crying.


                                                                                                                            • LittlePuffyTail
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                                                                                                                                I’m crying too, for both Jack and Vivian.

                                                                                                                                I certainly hope Jack can feel the love we all have for him.


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                                                                                                                                  Mark that was beautiful. I can’t stop crying now.


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                                                                                                                                    Jack clearly has a beautiful spirit. That pic of him binkying perfectly captures that joyfulness. Please know that I’m thinking of him (and you), wishing I could do anything and everything to help him. The best thing in the world for him, though, he already has in abundance: He has your love. Having you and his cherished friend, Vivian, by his side has got to be comforting. If everyone here could send their love to him in a little box that he could tear open and feel it surrounding him, even that wouldn’t be as special as the love he gets from you and Vivian.


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                                                                                                                                      My heart goes out to you BB, as well as to Jack and Vivian. I am keeping you all in my thoughts.


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                                                                                                                                        Lots of love, thoughts and prayers coming your way…


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                                                                                                                                          Thank you so much everyone. And Mark, that was so wonderful — though I had a hard time reading it as my tears kept getting in the way. I love your translation as it is much easier on my heart to imagine they are more ready for Jack’s trip to other side. My biggest heartache is to worry about how they may be feeling or one day will feel, and that kills me, more so than my own feelings of the future of missing Jack. So Mark, your post is actually comforting. I’ve been getting better about getting used to what the future may bring and I am easing my heart into it. (I’m surprised that is even possible).

                                                                                                                                          And in fact, all of you help me in your own way, thank you.

                                                                                                                                          I do have some good news to share and that is that Jack is maintaining well!

                                                                                                                                          I’ve been doing T-touch nightly, and my vet gave me some Chinese Herbal Mix (that has the possibility of shrinking the tumors and/or at least making him more comfortable with a better quality of life during this time), and though Jack didn’t like it at first, I’ve been slowly increasing it in his banana mush mix and he’s now eating it. I don’t know if it’s the t-touch, the herbal mix, or if it’s all of your vibes, positive thoughts, prayers, and love, or all of it, but Jack has actually been feeling good, even though it’s still obvious he’s dealing with a breathing issue. He’s eating much more, and has a bit more energy to run around at night, (though he tires easily). But in general, his mood seems upbeat and he doesn’t seemed stressed by need to breathe in faster and bit heavier. He is not suffering and he actually seems pretty happy. I know that when the cams are on, he looks lazy and sleepy, but it’s that time of day when they just enjoy the window box together, munching, grooming and deep sleeping. (I’ll see both Vivian and Jack dreaming sometimes).

                                                                                                                                          So, anyway, I just wanted to give you a positive update! I know that the future is not guaranteed, but the present is good.


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                                                                                                                                            It is good Jack is feeling up to running around and snuggling with his lady Viv. Tons of vibes still on their way south for him!


                                                                                                                                          • Kokaneeandkahlua
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                                                                                                                                              Mark that was perferct translation (It’s true -Rupert verified)
                                                                                                                                              I think the reason animals are peaceful with the way things happen, is they know things-can see the forest for the trees so to speak. I don’t normally speak to these kind of things, I’ve heard the incredible stories. And I always thought-well if it happens to me, I’ll think about it. … I can tell you I felt like Chuck was still here with us while Noot was really here with us. And now I know they’ve moved on. It’s a personal thing, just an inkling. But I’m saying…I feel that’s why they take it like they know, it’s a parting for sure, a seperation but there is a peace to it we could learn from in our own lives, and I can only take solace in what they’ve shared. I never did believe but I think I’ve been shown some extraordinary faith.


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                                                                                                                                                I also don’t doubt that everyone’s energy and love somehow makes it over our way. A few hours ago, I saw her do a head binky and then a big leap binky. That is very unusual for her as she’s always been much more reserved in that way. So I was shocked when I saw her do that. So some obvious happy vibes are happening there in the bunny room.


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                                                                                                                                                  I think K&K makes a valid point on several levels. I don’t know why, but when you talk about Jack, I keep having Rucy and Bailey pop to mind as being ready and waiting for him, almost glad they will see him soon, but still ready to help and comfort all of you when he joins them. It’s just a thing that I keep picturing. And I am sure that Chuck was right there to help Noot cross the Rainbow Bridge.

                                                                                                                                                  {{{{{{{{{{{Hugs and vibes to Jackie-boy and Miss Vivian}}}}}}}}}}}}


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                                                                                                                                                    I do too, RabbitPam, and just think how much attitude Bailey will be able to give them now that she’s a whole and healthy bunny over there.


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                                                                                                                                                      Well, he must have just exhausted himself with extra energy yesterday as today at least right now, he’s pooped and breathing harder. I am keeping an eye on him as he still is grooming Viv and eating, but I took him off cams for now. .  I’ll bring them back up periodically if I think he’s doing better and it’s appropriate. 


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                                                                                                                                                        Sending lots of (((((feel good))))) vibes for Jack.


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                                                                                                                                                          I just had to pop in and add some more vibes for all of you ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((strength, healing, love, peace))))))))))))))))))))))))

                                                                                                                                                          Luckily, my browser still works for now. ^_^

                                                                                                                                                          LOVE YOU GUYS! HANG IN THERE JACK! AND KISSES FOR VIV!


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                                                                                                                                                            I’m so happy to hear that Jack and Vivian are enjoying their time together. It’s devastating for us as humans, because we want to hold on to the things we love. I think animals, however, recognize that death is just another stage of life, something we are all destined to do. Why fear destiny? Especially if it means release from the pains of disease and age… Just one of the many ways that animals are so much wiser than humans.

                                                                                                                                                            Big snuggles from Calypso, Echo, and me to Jack and Vivian.


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                                                                                                                                                              Sweet Jack…hope you are breathing easier today and are comfortable…more love and kisses to you and Viv and your family,


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                                                                                                                                                                Posted By Sambuca on 06/13/2011 04:55 PM
                                                                                                                                                                Sweet Jack…hope you are breathing easier today and are comfortable…more love and kisses to you and Viv and your family,

                                                                                                                                                                He is breathing a bit easier today.  Whew. 

                                                                                                                                                                And Lara, I appreciate the idea that animals have a better perspective.  I like to rely on that to comfort me when I feel like my emotions get overwhelming as I definitely feel like I’m on a little bit of a rollercoaster ride as my first priority is that he doesn’t suffer, but at the same time if there are some things that he still enjoys, that I don’t cut his life short either.   He didn’t have that much energy this morning, though he was breathing a bit better than yesterday, and I found Vivian alone in the Window box, so I picked Jack up and put him up there with her.  He didn’t struggle, just let me (so at first that made me really worry).   As soon as I put him in the window box with Viv,  he perked up, ate and groomed Vivian quite a bit (he made sure her ears were squeaky clean.      

                                                                                                                                                                I talked to my vet because I needed to get a reality check.  My vet really helped me relax and just see it from different points of view, one being that if Jack is grooming Vivian and eating, and purring when I pet him, then he still has some quality of life that he is enjoying.   Of course, you don’t have to wait until an animal is miserable either, but at the moment Jack does still have some quality of life that he can enjoy. I do know that it’s something I have to take day by day (and even hour by hour),  as I know fluid can continue to build up around his lungs along with the tumor issues.

                                                                                                                                                                In the meantime, thanks again everyone, you are helping us (bunnies and humans alike) through it.  


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                                                                                                                                                                  {{{Jack}}} I’m glad your vet was able to give some other perspectives! It’s a hard weight to shoulder, choosing when quantity is more than quality. And then defining what is quality. Even for a person who can tell you, it’s difficult. One true blessing is that we can let them go peacefully whereas we don’t have that choice with our upright loved ones. So while it’s a heavy decision with lots of questioning and guess work, it does give a sense of control to the situation-one which the loving pet owner does not take lightly.
                                                                                                                                                                  For me, I’m with you & your vet, if pain is controlled and other activities (whether it’s eating, or looking out a window or laying by a heat vent or open window) can be enjoyed-that says to me life is being enjoyed.

                                                                                                                                                                  {{{Jack}}}


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                                                                                                                                                                    That means a lot. Thank you KK I know you’ve been through this.


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                                                                                                                                                                      I’m so sorry for you and Jack.
                                                                                                                                                                      At least he’s going through this with the best owner he could have possibly ended up with. I’m sad to hear this, but I’m happy that his remaining days will be as good as they could possibly be.

                                                                                                                                                                      I’m sending vibes too!
                                                                                                                                                                      >_<
                                                                                                                                                                      (((((((((({{{{{{{{{{{{{{JACK-VIVIAN-YOU}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}})))))))))))))))))


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                                                                                                                                                                        We are truely sorry to hear Jack is ill; we have lost 2 bunnies ourselves a few years ago; and I swore I never wanted to go thru that again. I stopped watching Jack some time last year. But, I haven’t been able to stop thinking about him. I so miss seeing him, Bailey , and Reuse; I just got thru watching the videos; they make me feel happy. Rabbits are a joy to watch and play with. God bless you and your family, and, we hope Jack will find peace.

                                                                                                                                                                        Sincerely,  Shannon


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                                                                                                                                                                          So sorry to hear about Jack BB. Just watching him on the webcam and reading your posts about him, Jack sounds like such a great companion. (((((hugs for you, Jack, and Vivian))))))


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                                                                                                                                                                            BB, I hope that Jack is doing OK and still enjoying life. Every time I read this thread (and I read it every time I come here) I cry. I’m not big on crying, but this just breaks down my reserves. What you and going through with Jack seems so sad and yet wonderful to me. Wonderful because you have given him such a beautiful life and continue to make sure that each day is special and as joyful as possible for him, but sad because I know how heartbreaking it is to care for an animal friend whose days are visibly numbered. I read somewhere (maybe here) that the our caring for our animals during the last phase of their lives is a gift to them, a final payback for all the happiness they have brought us. The way you love and comfort Jack is a tribute to this. Please know that you, Jack and Vivian are all in my prayers.


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                                                                                                                                                                               Thank you for such sweet and caring words.  Makes me cry, but it’s comforting at the same time. 

                                                                                                                                                                              Jack is a mystery because as soon as I think he’s making a major decline and I need to set up THE time, he pops back.    So  though I can see that in the last few days, he has made another decline, I am not sure what the next day will really bring.  He is not suffering, but just less his norm and so I am watching very closely.   Today is the last day of a two day heat wave,  so hopefully, he will perk a bit back up tomorrow.   It’s not horribly hot in the house and we are keeping things cool, but it’s still warmer than what they are used to.   He’s fooled me a few times as I wonder if it’s time, and then he perks right up.  So time will tell this go round. 

                                                                                                                                                                              Vivian is very sweet and she lets him lie on her (which she would never do in the past), or he’ll lean his body heavily on her for more support…even on a warm day.   He still enjoys being pet, he grooms, but less…he eats (ate alot yesterday) and still manages to go up to the window box on his own sometimes (though I have to help him down most of the time).  

                                                                                                                                                                              I am just trying to take it day by day and give them extra love and affection. 

                                                                                                                                                                              I do know the time is coming and that part is really rough.  

                                                                                                                                                                              Thanks again for all your love, prayers, positive thoughts and vibes.   They are received and held close! 


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                                                                                                                                                                                Though I don’t personally know him, I have seen videos, pictures, and messages of and about Jack and it all just makes me so sad! I cry every time I read these messages I think of how loved he is! I live on the other side of the country as you do, but  I hope my prayers will help you over there. When reading what everyone posted, I couldn’t hold back the tears and was a mess! It is just so wonderful that a rabbit can be so loved! You can tell that Jack is cared for and loved by so many people (and Vivian, too!) I just hope that he has more time to enjoy your family and Vivian. Just remember the good times and that he has lived a pretty long life and he has been pampered and loved by a lot of people. I am hoping and praying for Jack, and hopefully he perks up again. I am praying for you!


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                                                                                                                                                                                  I have been away so I didn’t see this before, so I apologize for my delayed reply.

                                                                                                                                                                                  I am so sorry to hear this. I can’t even explain to you how my heart goes out to you and your buns. I never got to really watch the two on cam since I don’t get home until around 5pm EST, but I can just bet the two were amazing to watch on cam.

                                                                                                                                                                                  I wish him a very happy rest of his life and I hope you hold up, too.


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                                                                                                                                                                                    Oh Jack.   I am about to cry.   He is missed. 

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