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My grandmother is losing her memory and my mother has her living with her. She isn’t allowed to use the stove cause she forgets to turn it off. I want to buy her a hot plate with an auto shut off switch that will shut itself off after a while if she forgets to turn it off. Anyone know of a good one ?
Frankly, I wouldn’t recommend that either because it still is hot to the touch and she could burn herself on it, or touch it with a flammable material and start a fire.
Why not a small, low wattage microwave? They shut off the minute you open the door, so there’s no risk of being burned, and you have to set it for a time so it will shut off by itself also.
Why does she need to cook for herself? It sounds like your mother is trying to keep her, and the house, safe. You could tell her that after all those years of cooking for others, it’s time for her to be pampered and waited on and your family is there to do just that. Please be mindful of respecting limits when there is an illness that interferes with basic reason and safety. It’s very hard to accept this change in your grandmother, believe me I know, but these adjustments need to be made with everyone’s well being at heart. I’m sure she can still do other things with you and in the household.
I like the microwave idea! It really is hard for someone to give up their independence so I think a microwave would be a grand idea if she enjoys making her own meals! I personally think it’s in her benefit to at least feel like she still has control of something
My grandmother was the most stubborn, hard headed lady. She hated the idea of people doing things for her and had to be on pure oxygen and she LOVED to cook but would get out of breath just getting up to get a cup of coffee that was 3 feet away without her oxygen mask on and she didn’t enjoy having to lug around a tank every step of the way. we ended up getting like 70 yards of air tubing so she can still get up and cook and such. It was cute because when I would go over there and she wasn’t sitting at her normal seat all I’d have to do is follow the air tube throughout the house to find her :p
Does the present you are looking for have to do with cooking? Are there other things that she enjoys? Jigsaw puzzles? gardening?
She’s blown up things in the microwave multiple times and my mother ends up coming home to no power, no lights, no A/C (Florida summers with no A/C, pleasant) and no heat because the breaker gets flipped when she does it and she doesn’t know how to turn it back on. She doesn’t quite understand “you can’t throw eggs in water and turn the microwave on” (she’s horrid with technology that is newer than 1950, always has been). She’s home all day by herself, she’s not quite that far gone in memory, she cleans for herself and can do laundry etc… she just keeps forgetting to turn the burners off after done cooking (which, to be fair, even my boyfriend does all the time but he’s not old enough to lose his sense of smell) and if she doesn’t cook for herself some how, she doesn’t eat and being diabetic, she has to eat regular meals. So, we’re trying to find a way for her to make her food, without blowing up the house or burning it down. I live 1500 miles away and my mother works, so there is no one to cook for her during the work hours. And due to her diet restrictions (diabetic, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, heart blockages, overweight… lots of restrictions!) she has very few things she can eat, which makes her “no cook” options rather limited.
Oh ok I see now. Hmmm Maybe if there is a hotplate that turns off automatically after a certain time or one that can maybe sense when there is nothing on it and automatically shut off… I’m not sure. I shall google it ![]()
this one says it shuts off automatically once the cookware is removed!
That way she can cook and when she takes the pan off it turns off automatically so no worries about forgetting to turn it off!
meals on wheels http://www.mowaa.org/
or somehting similar (i think MOW is a charity)
but that way she doesnt have to worry about food going BAD in their fridge either, and doesnt have to worry about doing much shopping..
Posted By longhairmike on 04/18/2013 02:17 PM
meals on wheels http://www.mowaa.org/
or somehting similar (i think MOW is a charity)
but that way she doesnt have to worry about food going BAD in their fridge either, and doesnt have to worry about doing much shopping..
Those are great programs – however, she lives with my mother, who is so far out in the boonies you hardly get internet access and EMTs take nearly half an hour to arrive (and another half hour or so to get to a hospital). So, coverage for such services is non-existant and would require her driving to town to a central location where they serve meals. She stopped driving almost 20 years ago when she became so uncomfortable with herself behind the wheel she knew she would hurt someone if she kept at it (if only everyone was that self-aware). There are no restaurants that deliver that far either, or I would just get her a gift card and refill it every so often so she could order in lunch.
I know ideally, she should be in a facility that could monitor seniors, but she says she’d rather die than live in a home and since she’s still able to do _most_ things herself, no point in making her as depressed as putting her somewhere would. No dogs, keeping to their schedule, no family. She’d hate it.
Since she lives with my mother, my mother does most the cleaning and shopping. My Aunt also lives nearby and comes by to help out with stuff (I think she’s there more than at her own home).
At home care is probably what she needs, but the cost of it is so much… my mother barely makes over min wage since her 12+ year job shipped to China and laid her off. And I can’t afford to pay for it with my own house and pets to care for. :s
the foreman grills have auto-shutoff after a while. get the larger ones with the removable plates= super easy to clean up
I was going to post a link to the hot plate that NBO123 posted. I think it shuts off after 60 seconds of not detecting cookware.
“The Aroma Induction Cooktop will only operate when induction-safe cookware is in place; it shuts off automatically once cookware is removed.”
I also wanted to ask if you’re state (If you’re in the US) has any in home assistance? I know in Oregon they have programs that help pay for in home help in situations like yours.
Best of luck and good thoughts to your family.
I understand this dilemma. My mother has Alzheimers and she can no longer use the oven at all. (nor the dishwasher as she began overflowing it too much and it damaged the floor. My father has dementia due to high blood pressure/micro strokes, but his forgetfulness just declined and then stayed steady once we got his diet and health under control His forgetfulness is MUCH different than my mother’s so I’m not sure if your grandmother’s forgetfulness will continue to decline and at what rate. But I can tell you what we have done for my mother
We now have it so that a counter like top goes over the oven when it’s not in use (and it’s locked). Before we would just it shut off at a main when there is not 100% supervision for her. She ended up forgetting the stove was even there. As she was digressing, we had a electrician come in so that we could shut off the stove at a secret switch. Then she actually started putting weird things in the microwave that ended up catching on fire! Never even knew that could happen. We do have a hot plate for cooking but it is put away after family or a caregiver is done cooking on it as she began putting odd things on the hot plate too. She started putting food directly on it to fry it or something.
But what we do have now are have ready made meals/snacks available to her that she can get from the fridge. Luckily my mom loves salads and fresh foods. There is also a secret fridge in the garage that my mother doesn’t know about, where foods that can be cooked are placed. And nothing in the fridge she has access to has things it that we know she would consider cooking. (though now, it’s been long enough, she doesn’t even think about it). She has a hot breakfast, lunch and dinner made my family or a caregiver. My mother’s diet is also restricted because my dad has a whole host of problems that your grandmother does. Major diet restrictions. I would talk to your grandmother’s doctor and ask if there are dieticians that may help educate on meals that can be made fresh/cold during the times your mother is not there. Many times this can be covered by medicare if the doctor orders this education. If not, check with the Alzheimers association.
But it sounds like you are in one of the difficult stages of her not totally forgetting and her still having a desire to cook etc, but yet not able to 100% safely do it. The hot plate may be a temporary option, but I do caution, from experience, that if she is digressing, then you are not sure what someone will forget next, or you can’t even fathom what off the wall thing they may actually try. (like doing laundry in the dishwasher or putting icecream in the oven) And with EMT a half hour a way, that’s scary. So it’s definitely something to monitor carefully. Would she be fine with home-made ready foods to eat? Like a salad with chicken, fresh turkey sandwich. Just some of her unheated favorites?
Anyway, I hope you are able to find something that works. I know this stage of a loved-one forgetting, but they want to do the things that they normally do and have independence with small things is very tricky navigation.
Our family is lucky have 10 hours of paid caregiving/per day as my mother has Long Term Health Insurance, but that will actually run out in a year,(that’s how much of the LTH works) and we are now forced to sell off their property, and their IRA will also diminish when the insurance runs out as she is at a stage where she cannot be home alone at all..ever. However, you should check out medicaid if your grandmother does not have much saved or in property. I remember discussions of them being more open to covering home care as it can be cheaper in some ways when family is also involved. Also, I know you said you are out in the boonies, but check for resources in your state for elderly care, like the Alzheimer’s association. And some states actually give some allowances for family caring for their elderly parents. It really varies so start checking out resources and hopefully something will be helpful.
Care giving for a parent is extremely stressful and overtime as the parent/grandparent declines it can really wreak havoc the caregivers health. I know they took care of us as kids, but it’s one thing to take care of a child, and it’s another to take care of a 140 pound adult, who has strong will power, but is losing cognitive abilities and memory. Most of the time explaining or teaching something new doesn’t work long-term and so the challenges are immense. It’s more about navigation rather than education. My mother can still read short notes and notes do help to remind her — but they have to be at the location of what she is supposed to be reminded of. In my mother’s case, she has notes on the doors — bathroom, bedroom, etc so she knows what rooms are for what. But before it digressed to that, I had notes to remind her how to use a microwave, or to turn something off. That did work for a little while. But man, those times where she was cognitive enough, yet losing her memory were BEYOND challenging for both parties. So I wish you all of the best! I know it’s not easy!
Anyway, I know I gave you way more than you asked for here….all you wanted was a hot plate recommendation!
I second the idea of having things ready for her to eat rather than her needing to cook them. If she does have the desire to cook, let her cook dinner with your mom helping, that way she gets that desire fulfilled, but safely with supervision. For lunch, have your mom make her something ahead of time that doesn’t need microwaving or cooking.
Or, does your mother have friends or neighbors nearby that wouldn’t mind assisting with her cooking her lunch? That could be an idea too.
Thanks BB, so far she’s just at the point where she tells you the same story every time you talk to her cause she can’t remember she told you already and forgets small things, like turning off the stove or taking her pills in the morning. She hasn’t been officially diagnosed with anything, but her memory has been slipping over the years. Not that she’ll admit to it – she misplaced her pill box the other month and stubbornly insisted my mother had moved it, even after my mother found it and it was in no place she puts anything. So, she’ll never bring it up with her doctor and when my mother says anything to them she gets a tongue lashing.
My mother lives on 5 acres way out in the woods, she doesn’t know any of her neighbors and picked the place to make sure no one would bug her. She’s quite against being social. Last time we had interaction with a neighbor, it was when their dogs came in to attack my pets (when I still lived there) because they don’t fence them and they bypassed ours (giant black labs make short work of a fence), so needless to say she doesn’t get along with them.
I guess I can try to find something that could be cold and fits her diet. She can’t have sandwiches much (too many carbs make her sugar run high), salad she won’t eat without dressing (and dressing is not allowed). Most raw veggies bother her dentures because they are hard to chew. And she can’t have fruit at all due to its sugar content. Hmmm.
You grandmother sounds like my mother as my mother really would not rather deal with anyone. However, ironically, as her disease progressed, she would talk to anyone at any time. So if we were at a restaurant, she would just start talking to someone at the next table. (ask them their name, etc) I don’t know how difficult to get your mother to agree to all the test that go into an official diagnose (as Alzheimers can’t be confirmed until after death, but they just do a number of tests, to just rule out other reasons for memory loss)
My mother was officially diagnosed with Alzheimers in 2006, and we started her on medications that were to help slow the decline. It’s hard to say if the meds worked as who’s to say that where she is at now, she would have been at years earlier. My best friend’s father was diagnosed with Alzheimers, and he didn’t have any meds, and his decline happened very quickly — within 3 years to not knowing who family is. So, IF your able, I would try to see if a diagnosis could be made so meds could be started.
My mother still recognizes me for the most part when she hears my voice, but when she sees me in person, sometimes she forgets, thinks I am a friend or a nurse. One time she said, “I know you are my daughter, but what is your name?” Her decline has been steady, but we are now almost 7 years into the disease. My mother, like your mother, was not social and was not cooperative with doctors, and she could get feisty with them because she felt insulted with their test questions. I can’t remember how or why she even agreed to go through the tests as knowing her stubborn ways, if she knew it was about memory loss, she would have told everyone take flying leap off tall bridge. I think my father just convinced her somehow by saying it was for something else. I remember him fibbing a lot to her to get to her to go to for different tests. He didn’t want to lose her and so he felt it best to do whatever it took to lengthen her time with him. (Normally, he would think fibbing to her would be disrespectful to her, but he made exceptions in this case)
Also, if you do find out that the memory loss is due to something like what my father has – Vascular Dementia (due to high blood pressure causing a dozens of micro-strokes over time which then deteriorates memory and cognitive function), then there are definite things you can do to help prevent further damage — AND with meds and diet, we have seen amazing improvement — it’s as if his brain has been able to heal/or reroute the brain messages.
My dad’s diet is very tricky too. Due to high blood pressure in the past, it has also caused kidney damage (he has 30% function) and he also has issues with potassium levels getting too high (which are dangerous for him). So he can’t have salt, he can’t have too much fat, and there are many healthy things that still are risky for him if he eats too much due to his potassium issues. His sugar level was also borderline diabetic, so we have to watch that too.
So we talked to the doctor and asked for dietitian recommendation. Medicare actually covered that and that helped us create menus. My dad’s kidney doctor also gave us great list of foods with all of their potassium levels with recommendations for alternatives. Oranges and bananas are too high in potassium for my dad to have on regular bases, but tangerines and berries are lower in potassium and something he can enjoy instead. It was a great help to have someone else help us figure things out as it was very challenging with so many limitations.
With the veggies — maybe the could be lightly steamed before hand to soften them, and then make the salad with them. Obviously this would have to be prepared beforehand.
Anyway, just some ideas. Good luck. I know it’s tricky!
My BIL has something he uses at his business because he often heats meals and won’t use a microwave. He also forgets he’s left things on because he’s multi tasking. I’ll find out the name of the device he uses.
There’s also a product called Safe-T-Element that fits over existing hot plates. It prevents temps getting too high. It only fits the coil type elements though.
The company also does a switch that shuts off a microwave if something starts to smoke. It won’t prevent all microwave dangers (superheating, food overflows or exploding) but reduces fire risk.
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