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Hello, I adopted my bunny girl about 2 years ago and never saw anything wrong with her. She’s 5 years old and was always a happy bun. However, her partner had kidney issues and E. C. (for which she was treated at the time as well with Panacur), so I went for a checkup, and wanted to get a blood test done to help ensure she would not have to suffer the same fate.
She ate in the morning and was quite normal in the carrier. In the Vet office, they took her out and she sort of panicked. She apparently had difficulty breathing, breathing heavily through her nostrils with her mouth slightly open. Her sides were visibly contracting with each breath. So, they gave her oxygen and later took an Xray. I didn’t expect this; the vet said she’s seriously ill. She has an enlarged heart which is very close to the airways. I never noticed anything except her sides, maybe contracting but I don’t recall it exactly as I think it’s also normal to see it move in bunnies. She’s now on heart medications and I need to go back next week for another check. The Vet said he expects her to die soon. This is crazy!
I’ve done some research online as to what it could be and the results show a heart defect from birth, congenital defects, infectious Diseases such as E. C. and prolonged stress. I asked the Vet if it could be due to the death of her partner about 2 weeks ago, I believe it’s called Broken Heart Syndrome, he said it’s unlikely. We’re back home and she’s hardly eating. She just nibbled on a piece of dill and her timothy drop which she usually eats more than one of.
I tried to remember if anything happened in the last weeks. What I recall was that on one or two days she had a lot of sneezing. This was when her partner was still alive. After her partner died, I bought a ventilator and it was on the second day that she quickly came in and bit the cable. All cables are secured but this one I hadn’t secured yet. We have a safety switch and the electricity turned off; I had to turn it back on. I didn’t notice anything in her, so I thought that all was fine.
Do you have any experience with this? Obviously, it’s so hard to say what the reason for the enlarged heart could be. Could it be stress from her partner dying? I brought the body back up and she had a chance to sniff it and realize he had died. They were bonded and grooming each other but not spending every second together. She also enjoyed her alone time. Or could it be from biting the electrical cable or perhaps something related to the sneezing? I forget to mention the sneezing today and the electrical cable to the Vet, I will let them know as well. She had one operation with her previous owner and one operation (full spay) with me. So she had two anesthesia and those went down with no issues which I think somebody with heart issues may struggle with.
What’s the best way to deal with this news is that she may be dying soon. Obviously, now after the traumatic experience with my first bunny boy, I am more cautious and make sure I talk about these things in order not having to panic again. Also, when she does not start eating properly. It’s frustrating and really sad!
I’m very sorry to hear about the sudden news, but you now have the knowledge and that is most important.
To start, from my years of rabbit advocacy and care experience, I recommend NOT concerning yourself much at all with how this came about, whether it’s grief, congenital, etc. It doesn’t change the reality and your energy and motivation will be more impactful in focusing on the present and discussing options with your vet.
Moving forward, it would be complying with treatment recommendations and updating your vet as things progress.
An initial shock after coming home from the vet isn’t unusual, so just keep monitoring and if she doesn’t bounce back eventually, contact the vet and also know your ER vet options as well.
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Unfortunately, she does not take the medicine. I’ve tried everything. Hidden in banana, on dill, on her fav. pellet on floor, on table. She refuses to take it on her own and she panics when the techniques for administering meds are done like in videos on YT such as keeping their body between the legs or in the arm (while their feet/body is securely placed on the floor or table) and holding the head. Her eyes bulge out, she sorts of panics and she’s gasping for air. I even put pet remedy on a tissue before hoping she’d be calm. I also had some person that was involved with animal rescue come here yesterday as she said she’s got lots of experience administering meds to rabbits but the same happens with her. She said she’s never experienced this. So, she didn’t try again as would have been too much of a risk. She ate a bit this morning, but I guess a result will be GI stasis soon. It’s breathing or eating. The vet will call me later and I believe the recommendation will be euthanasia. If she would at least take the medicine so we could try if this could help her. As said, this sets of panic and makes things worse. I watched the bonding video from 2 years ago when I got her and I could see her sides moving as well at the time. How could this be missed, I had no idea, but the question is if it would have made a difference since she refuses medicine. It’s absolutely heartbreaking! She took such a good care of her partner and was always a happy girl until about 2 weeks ago.
I don’t have personal ecperience with this. It seems likely that (congenital) heart conditions are under-disgnosed in rabbits -many rabbits die very suddenly without seeming go have been ill, and the owner never gets to know the cause.
An enlarged heart doesn’t happen suddenly, and it’s only been a short time since your Adi passed.l, so that’s unlikely to have caused it. Any pre-existing condition can of course flare up when sth traumatic happens, like the loss of a bonded partner. You did your utmost to stop that from happening with the care and love you gave Adi, but it happened anyway. As Wick says, it’s pointless to speculate, because things are what they are regardless.
I’m sorry she refses her meds. Have you told the vet? Maybe the heart takes up a lot of space in her chest cavity so it’s difficult for her to swallow any food?
Thank you for your feedback. Possibly and sadly bunny’s hide things very well and the signs may be difficult to read. For my part, I did go for my first check up with her and only because I was worried she would have to suffer the same destiny like Adi. Before I only went to the vet when there was an issue or concern. When we went to the Vet on Monday, she wasn’t gasping for air but her sides were visibly moving. It was purely an incidental finding and only because she started panicking on the table when she was lifted up by a stranger.
I am in contact with the vet. I reported immediately in the beginning of the week that she doesn’t take the meds. It’s a dog medicine (Vetmedin) that apparently has the meat taste/smell. She took medicine before (Panacur) that I could administer with no issues on her favorite snack. As it might also be the smell putting her off (in addition to having the syringe put to her mouth), the vet will order the sweet liquid version for us to try.
This morning I tried another way and “shot” the small dosage of the current medicine (crushed tablet mixed with a bit of water) from the syringe onto her tongue (she had her mouth open again) from a short distance and it seems to have finally worked. She chewed afterwards and seemed to have ingested the medicine. Breathing difficulties still seem to be there, maybe it takes some time for the medicine to work.
I want to try the liquid to see if she may accept it to possibly help her on an ongoing basis. Euthanasia is the last option but certainly something on my mind. I would have never said this before but it’s better to be informed of the options and have a plan rather than to panic and take rushed decisions in the moment as the experience with my poor Adi taught me. It’s hard seeing her with the breathing difficulty. Yesterday, she ran into hiding and then shortly afterwards came to the other room to the sofa looking up at us like she’s saying help me. She ate this morning and “washed” herself which is great.
I’m glad you’re working so closely with the vet It seems very likely that it’s the meat flavor that’s making her refuse the med. Some buns even panic if they sense the owner cooking meat in the kitchen.
From what I can find Vetmedin helps the heart beat stronger and also dilates the blood vessels so the heart doesnt have to work so hard. Hopefully you’ll soon see good effects from it.
No pet owner wants to think about euthanasia, but neither do we want our pets to suffer. It can be an act of great kindness. It’s still a heartbreaking decision to have to make.
After reading through this thread, I was going to ask if the medication was flavored. Most medications are not manufactured for rabbits, so it isn’t unusual for them to come flavored to entice dogs. Hopefully getting a sweet version will help.
I’m sorry to hear your other bunny is unwell. This isn’t something you want to hear, especially after losing Adi. I agree with the others. This is likely something that has been building for some time and it was just the stress that made it visibly symptomatic.
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