Education and Legalization of Rabbits in Queensland (Pinned by LEL-10/19/14)

[LongEaredLions]

The official thread of Rabbits Are Pets Too (RAPT)
Queensland.

Our goal is to educate Queenslanders about the potential benefits
of desexed, microchipped and vaccinated pet rabbits and to fight for the legalization
of such rabbits in QLD.

Please see this news clip as reference for what we are
campaigning for: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-17/calls-for-review-of-queenslands-anti-rabbit-regime/5823494?section=qld

Social Media/website links:

-Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBICX_PwVbaKEjwqhGgPcfQ

-Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/RAPTQueensland/1525243084390325?ref=hl

-Instagram:

http://instagram.com/raptqueensland/

-Google+:

https://plus.google.com/b/109082981145932237121/109082981145932237121/about

-Blog:

http://raptqueensland.wordpress.com/

-Email:

raptqueenslandATgmailDOTcom

Members as currently standing:

-LongEaredLions

-A Flying Brick

-MoxieMeadows

-ManicMuncher

-Roberta

-AndHenry

-JackRabbit

-Bam

-LBJ10

-Qld bunny lover

-Diamond

-MissGabbster

Website administrators as currently standing:

-LongEaredLions

-ManicMuncher

-LBJ10

-MoxieMeadows

-Roberta

-JackRabbit

-AndHenry

To do

-Improve social media/Website and begin posting

-Establish roles/Jobs/days for admins

-Establish roles for members

-Write letter to Neil Degrass Tyson to request help

-Contact HRS

Please send all photo and video content to

RAPTQueenslandATgmailDOTcom

Please comment down below to request changes/updates to this section.

[manic_muncher]

Hmm links to get to the Facebook page you’ve setup and any other social media set up for this cause.

I’m not super creative, but I think some of the education material should be simple memes that can be shared across social media. While some people like to go in depth, many simply want to peek at a picture to see the important facts and then move on to their candy crush or angry birds… you know what I mean. It should be broad enough information to be relevant all over the world (i.e. 3rd most popular pet, that it is not only possible to spay and neuter but also the importance of doing so, etc), so people will share it with all their friends.

Also video clips designed for QLD specifically. I’m thinking, for example, a “this… … not this… ” QLD ones should probably be low/limited with young bunny pics/videos, to steer away from where babies come from. lol Hmm “This… …. Not this…. ”

As a side note, I was trying to think about how to be methodical about contacting the House Rabbit societies. The list is gonna be HUGE. I mean.. it seems like every state and some major cities all have their own chapters here in the states alone. I guess social media (sorry I use facebook and am unfamiliar with others) has ways to link pages/groups? Not too familiar with groups, but if there was a way to “friend” groups/pages, or at least be able to share with them all at once?

edit: DOH! used less than and greater than with my “this.. not this” blurb and it erased it all when posting.  Lesson learned.

To convey the message!!!….

This: insert bunny zooming in house, playing with family/other pets, bunny condo areas, etc etc

Not this: neglected looking hutch in back yard

and

This: iphonetextgenerator used…

image of shaved bun belly being held up with text saying “fluffy’s spay went really well!” with responding text image -thumbs up-

Not this: image of backyard breeder farm/ QLD over-run wild rabbit image (such as used on that newscast)

[Roberta]

We need to invite Allyson into the forum… I’ll try and hook up with her tonight.

[Roberta]

Whilst education is part of the equation it must be acknowledged that the Legalise Domestics Rabbits has spent many years doing just that. What needs to happen now is an eye opener and to create a platform whereby a political party can see benefit in backing the cause. By holding the situation up to the light and showing the PTB’s in Queensland that they look foolish in a global community that has already come to terms with and faced the same problems withut denying people the companionship of a domestic rabbit is the path that needs to be followed.

[Roberta]

If we go the education path then we need to focus on rabbits like Reggi Pani who is a therapy rabbits and visits nursing homes and full care facilities as part of a therapy program. We need to focus on rabbits as emotional support animals for people who do not have situations designed to deal with dogs and cats. We have to take an entirely new approach and hit the world with arguments that have been simmering silently that we as bunny owners know as valid but the naysayers have never encountered. My Father was in a nursing home for several years before his death, I wanted to take my buns in and he was desperate to meet and hold them but things were difficult to co ordinate and whilst many other animals visited he always wanted to meet my bunnies. It is my only regret that I could not give him the chance to hold them before he died.

[manic_muncher]

I believe that exactly! Idiot shaming, on a global scale. It definitely will have the desired impact and result, I’m sure of it.

[Deleted User]

I just did a MAJOR copy and paste from the chat thread….

Yep, I watched it (along with the hubby) – your friend was brilliant Roberta and so was Sally! Actually the whole article was me all over including buying Henry’s food from a local pet shop for my long haired guinea pig – how dumb! The only thing I didn’t do and my vet didn’t offer was for Henry to be microchipped. Why? He wouldn’t be returned to me – or do they just want to know where to send the fine??? Sorry guys, I am so frustrated, how can you compare the two? Henry looks and acts nothing like those wild rabbits they showed in amazing amounts – my hubby swears they are hares.  
And I’m angry – did I just waste my time signing everyone I know up to the petition and bugged everyone to sign it??? And the Government aren’t considering it? A big SIGH…..

By the way manic, that rabbit fence is a joke, we’ve all seen many articles on it’s poor state – fallen over, dirty big holes! And yet it costs us a fortune to maintain it – I’m appalled! Though I am super impressed with the Ipswich City Council (west of Brisbane), I was SURPRISED to see them support pet bunnies. If I could stand the colder winter’s and hotter summer’s I’d seriously consider moving there just cause they can see sense. Do you know when I got Henry, I knew he was illegal here, but I had no idea we were the ‘only’ state in this ‘whole wide world’??? Ridiculous!

AND comparing a dirty old cane toad to my Henry??? IDIOTS! How on earth anyone can compare a cane toad/hare to a domesticated, toilet trained, pet bunny that will head butt you for a pat and spoon your dog is beyond me……

I know EXACTLY ‘who’ you are talking about Roberta! Uuuggghhhh! Not that I want to start on politics, but trust me, the damage these idiots have done to our state and the people along with their ignorance – no wonder we don’t stand a chance!  
I’m looking forward to our next election next year Roberta.  
Tell your friend she did an amazing job! Please pass on my personal thanks and tell her I’m good at magic too – I hide my bunny well!  
  
That’s ok Roberta, we are all planning to meet at your house, sorry your bathtub anyway…. ha ha ha!
And I agree – I am appalled and ’embarrassed’ over their stupidity and ignorance! By the way, I originated from the Darling Down’s and I never saw the ‘fence’ and for the few times I heard about it, I thought it was a joke (non existing – a myth), I only knew it was real when this petition started. How crazy is that!
I took for granted that I could buy Henry’s food and he has a vet that fell over himself to care for him – WOW! How ‘lucky’ am I???

And don’t start me on the feral cats Amanda!!! Let alone those horrible cat owner’s who let their cats run loose 24/7……
I think that’s my problem, it just DOESN’T make sense – the whole thing.

By the way LBJ, our current Government, not just the bunny issue have destroyed our state – mass sacking’s, higher cost of living, I could go on and on. Like I said, next year……

Sorry guys! I quickly went grocery shopping this morning and when I got home, my son was here – he just left.  
I just wanted to throw in my honest opinion about whether it’s worth starting something just yet??? This current Government did mass sacking’s especially in aged cared and disability services leaving a lot of families devastated – are they really gonna care about someone’s pet bunny? And the Government is full of old ‘Joh’ supporter’s (Roberta will get that – what she was talking about in one of her previous posts, ‘pumpkin scones’) meaning we don’t stand a chance. I honestly think we’d have a better chance waiting till the election next year and hopefully they’ll lose power – I ‘think’ if the opposition got in, we might have a better chance??? I don’t believe after watching the article on the 7.30 Report that the current petition is even going to be presented??? And if it is – they made it clear it won’t be seriously considered?
I hate to say this, but I honestly think it’s gonna be a waste of time…….
BUT I do agree we need to educate people!!! God forbid if I bring up the conversation – I get verbally bashed! No one has any idea what a FANTASTIC pet Henry is. And I can’t show or tell anyone to educate them cause I’m too scared of getting caught. If only they could see Henry, understand how he lives within our home and family, I reckon I’d have people signing up for them everywhere. And the best part – he doesn’t bark!!! I hate that my neighbours leave their dog’s alone all day and I have to listen to them bark. I get that everyone wants a pet, but a bunny is perfect for so many reason’s when another pet just isn’t quite appropriate. SIGH……  
Anyhow, tell me what you think of my thoughts? 
Edit to ADD – and I HATE that as soon as you ‘mention’ bunny in QLD, everyone ‘thinks’ of all those wild bunnies/hares they showed in the article. So ignorant, but the truth is – NO ONE knows any different. How do you get it out there to tell everyone there is a difference??? A HUGE difference

Not sure of the actual date yet, but before June next year…..  
And what I meant about Joh supporter’s (from the 70’s/80’s and besides being crooks) they are all about the land. Why I said I don’t think we stand a chance…..

Sounds good to me Roberta! I just wanted to put it out there what we are up against – it’s truly tragic bordering on ridiculous!  
Amanda said she has made as start – YAY!!! Let’s make this huge! I’m in 110%!

YES YES and YES! We need to start with…. EDUCATION!  
People need to stop associating the word ‘pet’ BUNNY with wild rabbits/hares, especially in mass amounts.
Show pet bunnies in a house/home environment. Just like an INDOOR cat and/or dog.
Not only do they not bark like a dog, or poop/spray in other peoples yards like a cat that can roam freely and annoy your neighbours.
And they interact with you like a cat or dog would, well Henry does, ha ha ha!

YES! What a moneymaker! I pay registration for ALL my dog’s every year for two reason’s – morally and I’m scared of being caught. I’d pay a registration fee for Henry in a heartbeat!
Here’s an idea….. If you want a pet bunny, do the right thing and get it desexed, microchipped, vaccinated and registered. If you don’t and get caught – HIT them with the $44,000 fine! Let the one’s who genuinely do the right thing have the opportunity to have a pet bunny if they can’t have a dog or cat due to working, living arrangements (small housing/no yard), etc.,
And then the concern arises that those ignorant people (who shouldn’t own pets) will let them go??? I am telling you now, Henry would not make it out of my street, and any bushland we have left is forever away – and he can’t read a map, he’d have no idea how to get there! You need to throw some common sense into the equation as well.

And in that article, for the ‘tiny’ bit we saw of Sally’s bunny, it in no way represents how a pet bunny can live in someone’s home within a family. Henry literally lives all over the house. Honestly, the vet told me to expect it’s like living with a cat – NOPE! He’s just another dog in our house (but NO barking! Bonus!) ha ha ha ha……
It depends on how YOU chose to live with them!

Someone famous to support this cause??? Well, Mel Gibson is from here (my town), I wonder if his family (parents) still live here? I must give them a call…. LOL! And the Bee Gee’s became famous in my town also, I must catch up with Barry…..  
I just tried – they won’t take my call, how rude! LOL!
At least I tried, ha ha ha ha…..  
Seriously, how cool would it be to get someone with a high profile on board???
I was happy just knowing 2 councillor’s from another council was on board and supporting the change – WOW!

[Deleted User]

This is why……

[LongEaredLions]

I have created a variety of social media accounts. Let me finish setting them up, then anyone interested in managing those with me should PM me and I will give you the login credentials.

[LongEaredLions]

Andi-Do you have a straight-on picture of Henry that I could use for a “logo?”

[JackRabbit]

LEL — Henry’s “coke culprit” pic is adorable, but you might also consider doing a logo with 3 or 4 bunnies photoshopped into one pic so you have a variety of cute buns — maybe Henry, miss D’s Hannah, your Roxi, and maybe a broken colored lop, that look nothing like the rabbits/hares from naysayer pics. Just a thought.

[Bam]

The Henry pics are adorable to say the least. Ricky Gervais would be a brilliant choice if we could get him to support this cause. Mel Gibson probably hates rabbits because they killed Jesus.

[LongEaredLions]

I was originally going to use just Henry as the space I have for the piccie is pretty small, but I think you have a good point. Will do.
Who has a broken/multicolored lop??? Looking….

[LongEaredLions]

Oh!
Neil DeGrasse Tyson has a house rabbit….that’s the one I was thinking of!

[manic_muncher]

Neil DeGrasse Tyson would be incredible to get involved with this. Clint Eastwood used to have them, not sure what kind of opinion the public would get from him these days though, with the talking to the chair thing….

[LongEaredLions]

That’s what I thought…. Hmmm…. How do we go about contacting a celebrity?

[manic_muncher]

Neil DeGrasse Tyson’s Publisher:
W. W. Norton & Company’s editorial offices are located in midtown Manhattan, across from the New York Public Library’s Humanities and Social Sciences Library and Bryant Park. Mail may be addressed to:

W. W. Norton & Company, Inc.
500 Fifth Avenue
New York, New York 10110
Tel: (212) 354-5500
Fax: (212) 869-0856

If you wish to send a letter to an author, please send it to the address given above and mark it ATTN: Author’s Name. We will kindly forward it on; we regret that we cannot forward email to authors nor can we give out author email addresses or other contact information.

[manic_muncher]

[LongEaredLions]

That is great MM!
Once we get everything kind of organized we will contact him. Or do you reckon it would be best to do it in advance????
That meme is so good!

[manic_muncher]

Once we have more of a direction of who and how we’re going to do the whole campaign (is this a campaign now?), a nice letter written up and sent to the publisher to be forwarded to him, as soon as possible. I have no idea how much mail he might be getting through this avenue, or how long his mail sits stacked before being read. The envelope should also be unique. Fluffy bunnies on the back seal or on the corner… something to grab his eye once it’s sitting in a pile of fan mail.

Any letter requests geared toward famous people should be similar. They need to be noticed in a pile of plain white envelopes.

[LongEaredLions]

We can call it a campaign. Speaking of that, I think we should give ourselves a name. We need to have a common name so people can recognize each social media account as us. Ideally something that we can easily make into an acronym. Ideas?

What would we do without you, MM? Such good ideas! Of course I wouldn’t know, I have never written to any famous people…

[LongEaredLions]

I just threw this together quickly MM but is this your general idea?

[manic_muncher]

LOL I don’t recall ever writing to any famous people before either.

I’ve actually been trying to come up with an acronym since we started talking about this whole thing. I tend to get very linear with my thinking and once something gets stuck in my mind, it’s hard to expand away from that. So what I’ve been attempting to do is make the acronym be an actual word that reflects a positive understanding, and also be related to rabbits. So far I’ve only managed to come up with RAPT (Rabbits Are Pets Too) with rapt being defined as: completely fascinated by what one is seeing or hearing; indicating or characterized by a state of fascination; filled with an intense and pleasurable emotion; enraptured. I think that may be a bit obtuse for the masses though. But because it popped in my mind, I’m having trouble steering away from it. Looking forward to seeing what you guys come up with. The FIRST acronym I ended up with was so terrible that I don’t even remember it now.

[manic_muncher]

YES!! Exactly like that!

I think we need to also get our famous Vloggers on board. Like -cough- BinkyBunny, BudgetBunny and 101rabbits!

[LongEaredLions]

I can probably get budgetbunny on board, I know her via Instagram. 101 rabbits is a bb member, we could ask her here.
I actually like RAPT. RAPT Queensland. I am like you, and since that is now in my head, I am stuck on it. I do need a definite name for it before I can really go any further on the social media.

[Deleted User]

So COOL everyone! And manic, RAPT is absolutely BRILLIANT!!! No way could I think of anything better….
Um, if your after a front on pic of Henry Amanda, I agree with JR, I think that one is probably the best I have (I only have heaps of his BUTT!). ha ha ha ha! Are you right to get it again? You grabbed it last time for my siggy.

Oh and Amanda, any chance you can put Roberta’s link to the segment in your very first post. For anyone new wanting to jump on board and hasn’t seen it yet – the article will explain perfectly what we are against and why.

[LongEaredLions]

Will create everything under RAPTQueensland.
I will also edit my original post to add all the links. JR suggested we use Henry, Roxi, and Miss D’s Hannah, plus a broken colored lop. I agree we want a variety here. NBO’s Sally would be nice to use as a broken lop. I will PM both of them to ask.

[manic_muncher]

Haha, I was thinking about Miss D’s Hannah AND Buddy… I have to admit Buddy is my fav with being a lop and all. But I also thought by him looking similar to a siamese, that might help shift the mental view a bit too. Plus her pics always look so awesome. Yea.. I’m a fan.

[Deleted User]

What manic said!

Lol!

[JackRabbit]

I was just thinking about a variety of color, and Hannah is the definition of variety AND color! As far as bunnies go, I’d take Buddy in a heartbeat and keep him all to myself! LEL’s Roxi has that feminine look that screams “I am a spoiled house bunny”. Too bad Hazel’s Bubbles doesn’t fit into this bunny movement!

I like RAPT — I know my bunnies have me RAPT around their little furry paws!

[manic_muncher]

OoOoo JR… I didn’t even think about that play on words!

[JackRabbit]

I don’t know if there’ll be space for something like this, but maybe a section or link for “funny bunnies” with pictures of bunnies doing funny things to show how adorable and fun they are as opposed to being wild creatures that ruin the agricultural industry.

Also, another bunny to keep in mind — Bruno. The pic with Bruno with the pink bow is about as “not wild” as you can find!

[Rick]

What is the problem? They are not a pest. Domestic rabbits cannot survive in the wild for starters. What about all the feral cats out there or is Queensland Govt just blaming it on the bunnies? Placing pet rabbits under Domestic Animal Legislation is the best way to control them, along with the requirement that any rabbit kept must be desexed, vaccinated, microchipped and registered with Council. Also, maybe make potential bunny owners attend a information session so they are aware of the responsibilities and costs associated with keeping a rabbit.

[LongEaredLions]

I was actually just thinking of Bruno too! Why don’t you guys go ahead and think up a list of everybun you want in the logo and I see if I (and by that, I mean the hubby) can make it work.
I love the “RAPT us around their paws.” We should try to incorporate that somehow.
There should be a space for funny bunnies, but admittedly I know nothing about social media sites. If someone knows their way around them better, I would love help, because I don’t know much!

[manic_muncher]

I’m on facebook nearly all day (shhh), and I’m a tiny bit familiar with facebook “groups”. I belong to a couple. I only have admin rights to one, but I’ve never really used them. They do have tabs for photos, files, events there. In facebook they can be open or closed groups (public or members only). Pages are little different, but I haven’t really looked closely at how much different they are or why one would choose which to use over the other. Off the top of my head, we probably would need to do both. The “page” for awareness postings (i.e. memes, cute photos, facts and educational info, updating of what RAPT is doing) and then a closed “group” for people actually working on the campaign. BUT that’s just off the top of my head, I really need to look at some of the active groups I belong to and compare them to the pages I check regularly before I can make a more knowledgeable suggestion.

[manic_muncher]

https://www.facebook.com/help/281592001947683/ the difference between the two

[LBJ10]

I would just use a group page and have it open for the public to see so there are no issues with sharing.

[LongEaredLions]

Ok MM, I currently have an “account” named RAPTQueensland, no “pages” or “groups.” One page and one closed group?

[manic_muncher]

The reason I think we need both is because I think the “page” should be where we put final information, that would be the link that we’d share and invite people to “like” so they can follow, share, and comment on. The “group” has places where we can edit documents and stuff. That would be where say someone writes a letter and wants someone else to go through and can edit that if needed. This forum is a great place to do a lot of brainstorming and showing each other stuff (I mean we’re already here!), but as more and more info is added, it’s going to need to be categorized easily so we can get the info we need… and not flip through 20 pages to find the right meme or the letter to send to famous people, for example.

[manic_muncher]

LBJ do you know if pages have a share option from the admin side?

[manic_muncher]

hmm and what I mean by that is… where you can click share and share with individuals or complete lists, like on personal accounts. That way when we’re posting something important that we want to go viral, we could share with the entire list of, for example, all the house rabbit societies added to that list, or specific media outlets, etc.

[manic_muncher]

ok I think I see why LBJ said the group would be enough. I just don’t know the editing of documents rules for groups for non-admin people. Are if when we save documents, whether some can be saved to be viewed/edited by admin only. We wouldn’t want any randomly added person who joins to be altering our documents. That’s my only issue with having a public group. I don’t know the rules.

[LongEaredLions]

Cool cool. Well it is late, so I don’t think I will bother more with this tonight. If you want to see what you can do MM, I will send you the login credentials.

[LongEaredLions]

Here is this for future use.
http://rabbit.org/house-rabbit-society-contacts/

[manic_muncher]

Sure, I’m about to afk for a few hours myself, but I can take a peek in a few hours. Gnite!

[LBJ10]

I run a group page for my work. It is public, so anyone can see stuff posted on the wall. A group page is better because people simply “like” you, rather than “friend” you. Then when they share stuff on their wall from your page, all of their friends will see it. You can change the settings so people cannot simply post to your wall. On the one for my work, visitor comments/messages go in a separate spot. If you want something to “go viral” you want to have a public page on fb so that way it can be shared by everyone and everyone’s friends.

[manic_muncher]

ok now I’m a little confused. Public “Pages” on FB is where you “like” them and then based on your personal settings, you would get notifications from them as the admins posts to that page. Public “Groups” I see you can see what they post, but I don’t see a place to “like” them. Someone would have to “join” the group in order to receive notifications (just found THAT setting on a group I belong to). Looking at the pages I’ve liked, and the groups I’ve joined… the whole system seems a bit redundant now. 😐

[Deleted User]

Good thing you guys already know I am super dumb when it comes to computer stuff – I have no idea what you guys are explaining, ha ha ha!

Anyhow, I hope this isn’t a dumb question or will make it too hard – I don’t want to make it hard….. but any chance we can have a question section where people can ask questions? The best example I can give is ‘me’ and why I (LUCKILY) found BB – I hate researching! If I have a simple question, instead of reading pages of information, I just want to ask and get a reply. And that’s the thing with QLDer’s and bunny’s – there is so much rubbish and myths out there, to be able to ask a question simply like ‘can my bunny really live inside like a dog/cat?’, etc., with someone being able to reply a bit like on BB? Is that pushing it?

The reason I ask, is for all the ignorance – the few (hopefully more) who maybe interested in getting a bunny as a pet may still think it’s acceptable to keep them outside. It’s one thing to see a picture and read something, but to have an actual human reply to you and say yes, this is my experience, blah blah, can make the world of difference to someone’s perception and attitude. I am proof of this – short of bringing Henry home, I learned everything from my fellow BBer’s! Who knows how we would ALL be living if it wasn’t for you guys??? Getting a personal take has changed my perception of bunny care to no end. Without dobbing myself in (ha ha ha) I never heard of Oxbow till I met you all!

Or, do you think BB would allow us to refer them to BB for any questions??? That would be even better!!! More experiences to share…..
So Amanda, have you been able to have that chat with our famous ‘cough cough’ (lol!) BinkyBunny, BudgetBunny and 101rabbits???

I just want to throw in – how AWESOME (clever, lol!) are you guys!!! I am simply blown away!

[LBJ10]

MM – Yes, that’s what I meant. Not a group that people join, but a page that belongs to a company/organization/group that is public and people can “like” it. So whenever you post something to the wall of that page, it shows up in everyone’s news feeds. Sorry, I wasn’t explaining myself well. I know what you mean by groups that people join. Those are private and you have to ask to join. I belong to one of those from my school. People post job listings on it. You could use that for more private things, but the public page would be more appropriate for getting the word out.

[LBJ10]

AH – We could also have a blog that is linked to social media. Then something could be posted on, say facebook, to get people interested. But you can’t post this big long thing on facebook, so the post could include a link to an article on the blog that goes into more detailed information.

[manic_muncher]

Yes, facebook is setup to where you can post, kinda like here, but think of it similar to like.. hmm the Lounge here. You can post a new thread in the lounge here, where on facebook you’d write a new post (they have a little box window you type in) or add a picture or video clip, and it would post in the order of posting. Then other people can respond (“comment”) on your post and people can continue adding to that as well (“reply”). Also “liking” a post/reply can resort the order it is seen, so if someone were to ask a question and someone gave a great answer, you could click the “like” button and if a bunch of people did the same, that reply would show up as a “top” so it could be seen at the beginning of replies.

Posts can be “shared” by you or other people with friends or to the public by sharing it on their own facebook timeline. Facebook is actually REALLY cool. I don’t use it very much with keeping in contact with my friends (though I do have a few I chat back and forth with periodically). Mainly I use it to keep up with news and politics, or I “like” certain pages that I want to know if something new is happening with (i.e. The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, Supernatural, and The Walking Dead… so I don’t miss when new seasons start; or authors that I want to know when they release a new book).

Groups I belong to vary in subjects. Five are gaming groups, 4 related to one game I’ve played for the last 11 yrs, 1 is related to one I played for a few years. I also belong to a Buy/Sell/Trade group for my local area, where I found that toddler playset for the rabbits.

Sidenote: I looked at a recent video uploaded by 101rabbits on YouTube and see she’s been quite busy with school and work, and also having to work around challenges with her internet speed and issues with uploading her usual amount of videos.

Would love to hear what BB’s input is on all this though! -poke-

[manic_muncher]

ok LBJ, on the same page now! hehe pun

[Deleted User]

Yes BB????

Lol….

And whatever you both (manic and LBJ) are saying sounds super good!

[LBJ10]

MM – There are different settings for commenting and posts the public makes to the page’s timeline/wall.

[manic_muncher]

Thanks LBJ, that’s great to know. Then, I agree with you, the page is the way we wanna go. Any other workings we could do internally here on BB. If things get to chaotic with sorting and finding info, I guess we could maybe start a new “Forum” where we could categorize stuff in different threads? Not needed now of course… but I’m imagining page #528 and cringing at the idea of trying to locate a specific piece of info. LOL

[LBJ10]

That’s why I suggested a blog with “articles”. It doesn’t have to be new stuff necessarily. Just information about the campaign and why rabbits are wonderful in general.

[manic_muncher]

Oh I see what you mean. What I’m talking about is an actual workspace for us to post onto, not a place for the public to actually use. Maybe I’m over-complicating things… I’m very prone to do that.

[LongEaredLions]

Posted By AndHenry on 10/21/2014 11:24 PM

Anyhow, I hope this isn’t a dumb question or will make it too hard – I don’t want to make it hard….. but any chance we can have a question section where people can ask questions? The best example I can give is ‘me’ and why I (LUCKILY) found BB – I hate researching! If I have a simple question, instead of reading pages of information, I just want to ask and get a reply. And that’s the thing with QLDer’s and bunny’s – there is so much rubbish and myths out there, to be able to ask a question simply like ‘can my bunny really live inside like a dog/cat?’, etc., with someone being able to reply a bit like on BB? Is that pushing it?

The reason I ask, is for all the ignorance – the few (hopefully more) who maybe interested in getting a bunny as a pet may still think it’s acceptable to keep them outside. It’s one thing to see a picture and read something, but to have an actual human reply to you and say yes, this is my experience, blah blah, can make the world of difference to someone’s perception and attitude. I am proof of this – short of bringing Henry home, I learned everything from my fellow BBer’s! Who knows how we would ALL be living if it wasn’t for you guys??? Getting a personal take has changed my perception of bunny care to no end. Without dobbing myself in (ha ha ha) I never heard of Oxbow till I met you all!

Or, do you think BB would allow us to refer them to BB for any questions??? That would be even better!!! More experiences to share…..
So Amanda, have you been able to have that chat with our famous ‘cough cough’ (lol!) BinkyBunny, BudgetBunny and 101rabbits??? 
  

I was contemplating the idea of our website having a small forum (with ya’ll as admins) so that we could do just this. It would obviously be better to refer them to BB, but I have no idea if introducing a mass amount of perhaps unconvinced, inexperienced bunny-disliking people to BB would be a good idea. We do need something like a forum though.

Before we get ahead of ourselves, we need to prioritize. Firstly, I need the bunnies we are going to use for the logo so I can put that together, and create the banners for facebook, youtube, etc. We need to fully set those up, and then we will need lots of bunny photos and footage to make things to post. After we get those organized, we can work on contacting the HRS, Bunny youtubers, Mr. Tyson, etc.

WEBSITE: Calling all web designers. We definitely need a good website for this. I can do basic designing on Microsoft Expression, but nothing really fancy so if you can do that please come forward. I know this is a stupid question, but does anyone have a bunny-related domain we could use? We should probably buy a related domain name.

Will message you FB login MM. It is going to be the same for everything (youtube, facebook, etc.).

[LongEaredLions]

OK, this is what I am getting/what I think:
We need a website with info pages on a variety of subjects pertaining to this. We should also have a blog for new updates on the campaign, and other bunny stuff. The website should have a forum or some form of question-asking thing. The website should have links to all social media. The website should be where people start, then they can go to our other things from there.
We will need some sort of Facebook setup where people can view our posts.
We will need a YouTube channel to share videos. When I made this, it came with a google+ account, so we can use that too if you want to.
We will also need some method of contacting us directly, such as an email. One also came with the Youtube account, but we could do something different if we want to as well.
This is mostly for my own clarification.
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[LongEaredLions]

After we get this all sorted out, we should create a new thread with all the links in the first post, the list of members and their roles, all that good stuff. We can use that organized thread to communicate about posts, videos, things we are doing, etc.

[manic_muncher]

I agree wholeheartedly about what you said regarding mass introductions to BB. That would be very bad. I have NO web design experience. And while I can fumble my way around a lot of things, I don’t think this would be an area I can be helpful with.

[Deleted User]

True – we do NOT want a whole heap of bunny hater’s ruining BB for all of us! That would devastate ME! BB is my new world!
But you get what I mean – it’s not like we (“I”) could ask just anyone bunny questions or about concerns – why I came searching for you guys – I found you!!! For all the bunny owner’s existing in QLD, I’m the ONLY one on BB. For the few who know what I do (now) about bunnies and their care, imagine how many don’t? We all heard the horror stories where bunnies don’t get taken to the vet for basic care, let alone if they are sick and die – shudder! And do they know about diet and how important it is – along with the fact they live better and beautifully indoors….. gosh, I could go on and on.

I just want to put it out there….
When Henry started spraying it was BB member’s that guided me to have him neutered (I had NO idea – JR is gonna love that, ha ha ha!) so went to my dog vet and said “my friend, blah blah….” and he referred me to an exotic vet (HUH? what is an exotic vet? never heard of them – ever!). I called and asked the question. After booking him in, the hubby and I hesitated whether to give a false name and details. Once we arrived, all our concerns were put at ease – with them stating that now that Henry is desexed and vaccinated (NO microchip) we could now return for his continual care. The vet was the one who pointed out we were feeding him rubbish food and suggested Oxbow, to have that confirmed by you guys….. Like I said, who knows how we would be living if I didn’t find you all. So it’s not just about changing peoples attitudes about hares/wild rabbits (that’s gonna be a BIG job with in itself) to a pet bunny, but we need to educate people to see their bun no different to a precious pet dog or cat – they can be desexed and live healthy lives with the right food, exercise, love and attention. This is gonna be HUGE! And be warned – we are gonna get trashed by the hater’s if they come across this site – is everyone up for it?

For the pic’s – I agree, MissD’s gorgeous Hannah (has anyone asked her yet?), we HAVE to have Roxi! (SO pretty!) I’m happy for you to use Henry, but I can think of cuter bunnies (Henry is a bit plain), but I suppose I can offer plenty of pic’s of him (butt, lol!) with the dog’s – what about Bumpy and your dog’s manic? You have to have heaps of pic’s too? I agree, we need a spotted bunny – is anyone offering???

Um Roberta, I know your busy with Pascal (I feel terrible asking – NO rush, this is not important compared to Pascal), but how did you go with Alyson?

Sorry I can’t help with the computer stuff, but you ALL should know that by now, ha ha ha…. but anything you think I can do, just ask!

[manic_muncher]

Well, my camera is crap really, so my pics aren’t good. Also my rabbits, while I love them and all… I don’t think they’d make good poster candidates. Like you said Henry is kinda plain, that’s what I think about mine too, especially my Bumpy. Broken patterns and vivid coloring, fluffy hair… anything that is as far away from the look of a wild rabbit as possible is what I think we need.

[Deleted User]

Seriously, JR’s M&M’s are both adorable….. I think one of them – the hardest part is which one???

I’m happy to add photo’s of Henry – no prob! But as a cover boy, yep, he’s too plain. You know who we need??? Katie779 and her Holly!

[Roberta]

Sorry I haven’t contributed much yet guys… Got my hands full with a poorly Pascal and my computer is being temperamental.

[Deleted User]

That’s ok Roberta…… look after Pascal first!

And btw, THANK YOU!

[manic_muncher]

Yes Roberta, definitely take care of Pascal and yourself too. I thought you’d be quite busy at least until Pascal had recovered!

[JackRabbit]

AH — thanks, but I think mine are too common colors. Marlee is the most unique of my three but capturing the “sweet” in her on camera is almost impossible. If we have a place for funny bunnies, maybe a place for sweet too? I definitely have pics of the M&Ms cuddling and grooming each other.

I’m drawing a blank (old age?), but Holly is a gorgeous broken lop but I can’t remember her human’s name . . .

[manic_muncher]

katie779! Why do I know more rabbit and owner names on BB than I know people’s names irl?

[JackRabbit]

Thanks Manic! I thought katie but the numbers always escape me (pretty bad for an accountant!).

[LBJ10]

Yes, we definitely need a photogenic bunny. One with features that will pick up nicely in the pictures. My boys both mostly black so you can’t make out facial features well. So a lighter colored bunny with unique markings would be best.

[JackRabbit]

Actually, if you can’t get in touch with katie779, Hannah with Henry on one side and Roxi on the other would work.

[willowjinxy]

Hi Roberta – I live in qld and I had bunnys that I had to surrender to the rabbit sanctuary last year. I am also an admin on the Facebook page “Legalise pet rabbits in Qld. I wanted to thank you for everything you are doing to help us with this fight.

[LongEaredLions]

Hi Qld bunny lover! Thank YOU!
I will make the logo with Roxi, Henry and Hannah.

[Diamond]

I think we need fluffy rabbits, like Bunnydaddy’s Nala, or LEL or Tanlover’s lionheads. Or cuddly rabbits! All sorts of rabbits. Lily has a cute shape and markings, but she’s mostly agouti, which may be too reminiscent of wild rabbits.

Sorry for rambling, but I think variety is the way to go.

[Deleted User]

Hi Qld bunny lover and Rick, thank you both for being so passionate and taking the time to become a BB member so you could post on this thread – you are both legends! Please, any idea’s you have or any assistance you can offer for us to get this off the ground would be genuinely appreciated. We are open to any and all idea’s – please, join in!
Would you share your story with us Qld bunny lover, the what and why? Were you caught? What was the process? Luckily non of us have had to endure surrendering our bunnies and can’t imagine your grief, I am devastated for you – I am SO sorry!
Thank you both again for posting and I hope you both return to our thread. Cheers.

[Deleted User]

Hey Diamond! I forgive you now for stealing all my bunnies, lol! – your suggestions are great, thank you! We’ve already got LEL’s Roxi (Lionhead), and I still reckon Katie’s Holly (Lop) along with MissD’s Hannah (has anyone asked her yet, lol!) and I’m also thinking…. Hazel’s Oscar! if we need more? He may be viscous (ha ha ha!) but no one needs to ‘know’ that – we just want another super cute looking bunny that looks different and doesn’t resemble a wild rabbit.
We all know your Lily is super beautiful and we adore you Diamond, your an awesome BB member!!! So I hope once we get set up you will contribute her photo’s to our site, especially the one’s of her interacting within your family home. Thank you for appreciating that we need stand outish bunny’s for the cover photo – why I am hesitant to use Henry, I still think he is plain (what a bad bunny mummy), lol!.
You weren’t rambling Diamond – your right! We need variety!

I would be happy to PM Katie and Hazel if you guys want??? My only problem is I can’t send new PM’s and I’ve never PMed with them for me to dig out an old one to add onto it – bugga!

But I will try if you guys want me too…… I don’t want to jump the gun and bother them if we have all agreed. Let me know…..

[Roberta]

This is the FB page for The Rabbit Sanctuary, it is a rabbit rescue in Grafton NSW just over the QLD border that take in many of the bunnies that people relocating to Queensland are forced to surrender and the lucky ones found by rescuers in Queensland that are then taken to the sanctuary. They do an amazing job. https://www.facebook.com/Rabbit.Sanctuary

[willowjinxy]

i had 2 beautiful female bunnies named willow & jinx, i had them almost a year when we moved towns and i guess someone must have seen them and dobbed me into the moreton rabbit board. they turned up at my place one morning with cages to take them. i was on my way to work but luckily my husband was home and he refused to hand them over to them, they werent happy and said they would have to go to the police. meanwhile my husband rang me to tell me and as you can imagine i was absolutely devastated, i turned around and drove home crying the whole way. when i got there i just grabbed the bunnies and put them in the car and took them to work with me. the guy came back a little while later with the local cop (who was also our neighbour and knew the whole time we had them) and they came to an agreement that we could organise to rehome them ourselves within 48hrs but we had to supply proof that they were out of qld. We looked at quite a few options and then we found the rabbit sanctuary and after speaking with Kim, we decided to take them there and that is where they still are now, boarding until we can change the law and i can bring my baby girls home.

[Roberta]

Here’s some classic Piglet and Pepper pics.

 

[Deleted User]

Oh WOW Qld bunny lover – I don’t know what to say? Except how horrible! Your distress would have overwhelming, I felt sick reading your story. Thank you so much for sharing! You can also be our inspiration – to get your girls back home! I couldn’t imagine my bunny not living with us, actually, I doubt he’d survive, I honestly think he would fret – he doesn’t know any other life (having him from a baby) and being a lone bun, his companions are dog’s. And he knows ‘us’ – the hubby, son (still living at home) and I can pat him/approach him, but if my other 2 kid’s come to visit, he runs away and hides from them (lol!).  I was even just saying to a couple of member’s today, we don’t even use the word bunny in our home – we use his name, in case a sticky beak neighbour can overhear.

So, I take it you have read ALL our thread – do have any idea’s to add, to convince our Government to reconsider? As you would have read, I think we need to start with educating QLDer’s that pet bunnies are not the same as wild rabbits and hares. I believe that is the issue first and foremost – as soon as you mention the word bunny, they assume a mass of wild rabbits/hares overwhelming our streets and suburbs and as you know, that quite simply isn’t the case.
Sigh….
We’d love your opinion??? I’m the only QLDer on BB so we would all love a different take/opinion. Cheers.

[Deleted User]

Those pic’s are precious Roberta! I’d be more than happy to use any of those on our cover – see, you forget when someone doesn’t post enough pic’s of their bunnies (raised eyebrow! hint hint!). Lol! Yep, I think we have all the bunnies we need for our cover pic – I don’t need to bother anyone else.

[LongEaredLions]

I will try to squish all the bunnies I can into the cover. I agree we do need fluffy ones, but they take longest to cut out. This weekend is free for me, hopefully I will be able to work on this project.

[Diamond]

Can’t wait to see the finished product!

[LongEaredLions]

I am having such trouble with picking just a few bunnies! I want to put them all!

[willowjinxy]

Andhenry, it was a very distressing time for me and my family. My poor bunnies did fret when they first had to go away and lost quite a bit of weight. They had been with us since 4 weeks old. We have visited them a couple of times and it is so hard having to leave them there when they have a perfectly good home here with us. This law is just so unfair. I know i did the wrong thing in getting them since i live in qld and knew the law but i always knew i would never let any harm come to them. I am determined to fight the government on this as long as it takes. I will try and post a photo of them for you.

[Roberta]

I’m thinking we need to do some features on bunnies that have a positive effect on society. One I know of is Reggie Pani on Facebook. He is a therapy rabbit and goes on visits to nursing homes and hospitals. I think his slaves could be approached for some special photo’s… One of the elements we need to highlight is the role of rabbits as support and therapy animals, I am sure that would motivate some of the fence sitters. Not every one has the space for a support dog.

[Roberta]

Actually QBL Pics would be awesome, your babies could well be our ambassadors. Maybe TRS can give us some updated pics for a storyline ?

[MissGabbster]

I’m not caught up on this thread yet. I’ve only read pages 4-5. However if you’re looking for some super cute photogenic bunnies I’d suggest asking for pictures of Koji & Shiro (https://www.facebook.com/KojiandShiro), Hannah & Buddy (Hi, MissD!), and Nugget & Emilee (NuggetBuns on here, but I think she’s most active on tumblr. http://nuggetbuns.com/)

Who wouldn’t be convinced to change the law after seeing such cute bun couples!! (If only it were that easy.)

I wish you guys luck on getting the law changed! Let me know if I can do anything to help.

I’m so sorry, Qld bunny lover. I can’t even imagine how heartbreaking that must’ve been, and still is. I’m glad that you were given the chance to rehome them though!

[LongEaredLions]

Ok everybody, I have the majority of the stuff done for the YouTube, Google+, Instagram, Facebook, and Blog.(sorry it took so long!) I am setting up admins for the sites that allow it so let me know if you are interested in that. In a few days time when the websites are close to finished, I think it would be great to have 5-10 people of all different techy skill levels and across all different devices, computers, browsers, etc. test out all of the sites and make sure things work and provide suggestions for improvement. So let me know if you would be interested in that as well.
Lastly for now, we need a bunch of footage of cute bunnies to make the YouTube channel trailer, and other things. If you have some, go ahead and send it to me- longearedlionsATbinkybunnyDOTcom.

[Deleted User]

As far as admins, I think it should be all of us who are passionate and or have an interest about this particular cause.

LEL
manic_muncher
Roberta
JackRabbit
bam (I’d love bam to be involved)
LBJ
& me.

Then if anyone comes along after, and offer’s/puts there hand up – we can include them then? ANYONE OFFERING???

I want this site the get a point of view from everyone from all over the world, how wonderful bunnies are and how they see them from their eye’s. We all live with our bunnies differently for whatever reasons, and I think it’s important to emphasize this and how amazing it is.

Like I said, I don’t have a clue about computer’s – but anything you want me to do, let me know!

PS – And I know everyone is busy, but if we can all do a ‘bit’ it won’t seem like much??? Will it?

[LongEaredLions]

Most definitely Andi. Many hands make light work!
I figure we should have seven admins on the blog, and that way if we can each write one blog article once every two weeks, we can have one up every other day. Doesn’t seem like too much work does it?
We also need someone to post on Instagram, facebook, and google+. I can make the little “this… Not this” things if you guys can give me ideas. I can very easily manage the Instagram but I will need help with the Facebook (I can set admins on that too) and google+.
As far as the YouTube, we would just need to make short, informational (and sometimes just cute) videos. So take a lot of footage of your bunnies.

[Diamond]

I tried to send you videos, LEL, but it says your inbox is full.

[JackRabbit]

LEL — might be worth including QLD Bunny Lover’s bunny pics and removal story somewhere if she’d allow it. It’s a tear-jerker and shows the effect on the bunnies as well as the bunny parents.

[LBJ10]

Wow LEL, you did all of that?! You are so awesome!

If you need me to do anything, let me know. =)

[LongEaredLions]

Diamond-my pm inbox or my email? I can go empty my inbox for email.

[LongEaredLions]

I think it would be perfect to include QBL’s story. Will try to get than on the site if it is ok with you, QBL.

[Diamond]

LEL – Yeah, it was the email.

[LongEaredLions]

My inbox is only around 70% full but videos are quite large. I can’t empty it now, but go ahead and send the footage to raptqueenslandATgmailDOTcom.

[LongEaredLions]

Ok everyone I have updated my original post and added links to everything I have set up. They are no where near finished but we do need a place to start.

[A Flying Brick]

QBL’s story made me cry TT^TT some people are so heartless.
I’m happy to help anyway I can (even if it means wearing a bunny suit and holding a big sign)
I think more can be done on the local end as not many people outside QLD even know about this issue.
Maybe getting some Aussie celebs support as one story on Landline QLD doesn’t really help :/

Also I’m an artist/designer so if you need me just ask.

[LongEaredLions]

Hey A Flying Brick!
That would be great if you want to join us!
We do plan to ask some celebrities. We plan to ask Neil Degrass Tyson as he has a house rabbit. We also are going to get the HRS involved.
A designer! How cool! That would be great because I have a few skills but nothing fancy.

[LongEaredLions]

Also-although this should probably go somewhere else, lol. What is the story behind your username? I had a good giggle when I approved your first post!

[A Flying Brick]

I have Cert IV in Visual Art and Graphical Design and Communication so I’m happy to actually use them.
I was thinking someone like Dr Karl, who is sorta like an aussie Neil Degrass Tyson, would be more well known here and would help the “homefront” a bit more. Since it’s not a well known issue outside QLD and among rabbit owners, having someone putting it in the spotlight would be very usefull.

Also the story of my name is that it comes from online gaming where it says “you were killed by A Flying Brick” so it just stuck.

[LBJ10]

Everything looks great so far LEL!

[LongEaredLions]

A Flying Brick-
Could you take a look at what I have done so far (I have very little skill in that area) and if you feel you can improve it (which I am sure you can) I will go ahead and send you anything you need to design something better.

[LongEaredLions]

Just working on the blog- if you want to be an editor/admin on the blog, you are going to need to PM me your email so I can set it up for you.
We already have 2 likes on facebook and a follower on our blog-and we haven’t even done anything yet!

[LBJ10]

Wasn’t me, I was afraid to touch anything. LOL

[JackRabbit]

LEL – I responded to the invite, but I’m going to pull an AH now and let you know that I have no idea what to do with this!

[LongEaredLions]

Yep-got yours JR! And it’s ok, we can figure out what to do after I get all the admins in.
I think seven admins is a good number. I am just going off Andi’s list, but nobody feel inclined to say yes. Anyone who DOES want to be and admin, I will need an email.

[Deleted User]

Just going grocery shopping and the daughter is coming for lunch – once she leaves I’ll jump back onto to BB for a catch up. Just wanted you guys to know I’m here and I have read all the updates. Back soon…..

[LBJ10]

Do you need the email address associated with a FB account? Like I said, I don’t have Instagram or Google Plus.

[LongEaredLions]

Nope. For the blog any email will work (it doesn’t even have to be one that you check regularly as long as you can get the confirmation email.)
For facebook, all admins need to have a facebook account. I do not. But we probably only need 2-3 admins for that as it is not as big as the blog.
What do you guys think?

[manic_muncher]

I liked and followed. I’ll pm you my infos.

[LongEaredLions]

Thanks MM!
Off I go to try to do, something I don’t know how to do…… LOL

[Deleted User]

I’m back! Do I need to email my info to you Amanda? I think you have it all including my email address. OK, what do I do now?
My son did a facebook thingo for me ages ago and I remembered the password (yay! Lol!), so I liked it. By the way, it’s Andi Gee (if your wondering who that chick is, ha ha ha!), and I sent the invite to my son (my ONE friend on facebook), so hopefully he’ll pass it on too.

What do I need to do the be an admin on the blog bit?

[LongEaredLions]

I sent you an invitation email from the blog, you are going to have to go there and click on the link, follow the directions. You will have to make a word press account, just put in your email, a username (can be the same as BB or different) and a password. Then go back to your email and confirm (or something like that? LOL) and then RAPT should be in ‘my blogs.’ It is pretty darn confusing to get set up, so ask all the questions you need! Ha Ha Ha!
Yep, I knew that was you on FB! I laughed when I saw you had liked our page, and wondered if it was actually you or your son? Good Job! Will set you up as an admin on there too. So far we have three BBers following our page… LOL! I need to create an account so I can be an admin on FB- *confused face*

[Roberta]

My contacts are fowlsfeet@gmail.com and my FBook is my name Roberta Dinnie. Not worried about hackers or ID theft, anyone dumb enough to do that is welcome to my Credit Card bills… LOL… I have ID a couple of people for testimonials, local celebs… Get me the links as I am going to start contacting them this week when my new tablet arrives and I am not dealing with a dodgy laptop that shuts down every 5 minutes.

[LongEaredLions]

Thanks Roberta-will go set you up now!
All the links and info I have edited into my first post.

[Deleted User]

I tried to set it up and it won’t take my email address, and strangely the username andhenry is already taken??? Strange, ha haha!
Could that mean I’m already signed up? If so (how?) and I don’t know my password???

Edit to ADD – It’s the issue that it won’t accept my email address? Like it’s already in use?

I can work with a new user name….

[LongEaredLions]

Did you click on the link from your email?
Maybe it signed you in with facebook?
Hmmm….

[Deleted User]

Ok, NO! It’s not taking my email address – I wonder if it’s cause of the au??? I’ll have to set up another one – bugga! I’ll do that tonight and let yous all know when it’s done. Dam, dam, dam! By the way, my son is a follower of RAPT on FB, YAY! And ignore my DOB on my Andi Gee FB – you all know better, lol!

Edit to ADD – Done!

Edit to ADD ADD – I can see your up manic – what am I doing wrong???   !

[LongEaredLions]

I’ll go and see what I can do Andi.

[LongEaredLions]

Ok-I have invited our current admins on Facebook, the Blog, and google+/Youtube. Go ahead and accept those. Andi-i think I sent you two invites to be a manager on google+, one to your regular email and one on your RAPT one. Only accept the RAPT one.

[LongEaredLions]

New update:
Everything is up and running well as far as I can tell. I thought it might be good, once all the admins are in (we probably need 2-3 more. Any takers?) we should do a bit of testing just to make sure everything is running smoothly. I have done a bit but we should try things out on different browsers, devices, etc.

And to begin thinking ahead- how are we going to approach the HRS chapters, bunny bloggers and celebrities? Who can do what? How will we contact them?

Also-Manic and I were talking and decided that if we are going to write blog articles, it would be nice to have a list of topics to choose from. So we should start brainstorming that.

I also have being working with A Flying Brick to create little memes and photos for FB. Will post those too ASAP.

Let me know all your thoughts on all of this.

[Cottontail]

Although there’s not much that I can do to help, I just wanted to let you all know that this endeavor is fantastic. I’ll share the page on my FB, and if I come across any interesting ideas for the group I’ll be sure to let you know.

[A Flying Brick]

Happy to help
The best way for anyone to help is to get more photos of bunnies being cute.
If anyone’s having issues I can make up examples of good and bad photos.

[Roberta]

Hopefully my new tablet will arrive today or tomorrow. My laptop was over heating and dropping out every time I tried to start to do anything. It seems to be connected with forced downloads and updates.

[LBJ10]

LEL, I can probably help out a little bit. What do you need?

[JackRabbit]

FB — could you post the good and bad examples? I can provide some cute bonded bunny pics — post them here or email them to who? I haven’t had time to figure out what to do with any of tge other stuff.

LEL — have you posted url’s for the various sites to be tested with different browsers?

[LongEaredLions]

Posted By Cottontail on 11/11/2014 4:05 PM

Although there’s not much that I can do to help, I just wanted to let you all know that this endeavor is fantastic. I’ll share the page on my FB, and if I come across any interesting ideas for the group I’ll be sure to let you know.

Sharing our cause is undoubtedly one of the best ways to help. Thanks, Cottontail!

[LongEaredLions]

LBJ-Here is a list of what we need:
1. People to be admins on the Blog, FB, and Google+. Write blog articles every 2-3 weeks or whenever they can, and just have a quick sticky around the other sites to make sure no one is being naughty. We also will need some admins to answer questions on the sites. Remember being an admin does not require writing blog articles, that is an ‘if you can.’ Some admins would be like ‘forum leaders,’ just there to answer questions, etc.
2. Some one to manage our connections with outside sources (Bunny bloggers, HRS, celebs). Will need to write and send letters, emails, etc.
3. Make material (videos and pictures for social media). I can do some of this (and A Flying Brick) but hey, the more the merrier.
4. Manage our email account and deal with questions sent by email.
5. Small but still very important things you can do: SHARE our cause, contribute raw photos or videos, or just subbing in where needed.

Putting this list out, I just want to say that nobody is obligated to do anything. Help in the ways you can or are comfortable with, otherwise, let someone know and someone else will step in. I don’t want this to be too much work for anyone.

[LongEaredLions]

Posted By JackRabbit on 11/11/2014 7:22 PM

FB — could you post the good and bad examples? I can provide some cute bonded bunny pics — post them here or email them to who? I haven’t had time to figure out what to do with any of tge other stuff.

LEL — have you posted url’s for the various sites to be tested with different browsers?

Email all photos and video clips (+anything else) to RAPTQueenslandATgmailDOTcom.

The URLs to everything I have edited into my first post.

[LongEaredLions]

FOR PEOPLE TESTING:
And if you are going to test things out, let me know how it works so it can get fixed if need be. Feel free to post on any of the sites, just say, ‘this is (username) and this is a test.’

Do not do/answer all of these. They are just ideas.

Things to try:
-Try to post an article on the blog. Edit it. Logout. Play with it more and see if you can find any flaws. Edit my blog article, see how that works. Try editing my comment too. Post a comment of your own. Read the about page.
-Post on facebook as RAPTQueensland. Logout and view the page to see how it looks. Comment on your post, and reply to your comment. Include an image if you want. Make sure all posts are made as RAPTqueensland and not yourself.
-Post on Google+. Add a comment. Logout or view as Public. Share the post with someone.
-Post in the discussion section of youtube. Logout and see how it looks.
-View the instagram page online or on the app.

After you have done these things:
-What type of device are you on?
-What browser are you using?
-Were you able to access all of the sites?
-Were there any glitches in the design of the sites?
-Could you perform your Admin duties?
-How did everything look overall?
-Were there any broken links? Did each site have an easily accessible link to all the others?
-Was the message of the pages clear?
-What could be improved?
-Any trouble you had with the sites.

[A Flying Brick]

 

 I made this up quick but it was hard for me to find any really bad photos as I normally delete them to save room. I took all these on my phone, so it’s not too hard to get useable photos with a cheapish cam. If you’ve ever played pokemon snap, this follows a simular principle. Also not too much flash either, just make it a good photo, I can feed it through photoshop to fix things. Just do your best

Try not to edit the photos, it’s easier to use raw photos. If there’s something identifiable, (papers, pictures, landmarks, etc) I’ll edit them out.

[MoxieMeadows]

I don’t know how I’ve missed this? lol
Anyway, I’d love to help in some way, even if it’s just kinda being a “cheerleader”…..I’m not really ‘tech-y’.

[LBJ10]

LEL, okay, I can probably help out as an admin then. Perhaps I could write about something bunny-related now and then.

[LongEaredLions]

If you want to help Moxie, we would love to have you!
Ok LBJ, I will need an email and a facebook if you have one.
Thanks everyone!

[MoxieMeadows]

I’d definately love to help you all in whatever is in my capabilities. I think this is so amazing how we are all coming together to legalize buns in the only state in the world where they are not legal. (did I get that right?) the year 2014 is drawing to a close, Just imagine this time next year AH and tons of other people could be relaxing at home with their buns, getting ready for the Holiday season. It’s truly a heartwarming thought.

[MoxieMeadows]

I know that sounded a little “corny.”

[LongEaredLions]

Not corny at all Moxie! That’s exactly what we are aiming for!
Anyways, if Andi and I are going to trade off for you, we want you to be able to bring Moxie to Andi’s house!

[MoxieMeadows]

Of course!

[Deleted User]

YAY!!! I knew you wouldn’t let us down Moxie. I think Moxie would make a great admin – are you up for it Moxie? And you write so well, so cheery and funny, I reckon you would make a great blogger, especially from a younger person’s perspective. And the best part, you know right from wrong – having someone so young contribute with such a healthy attitude is just what we need.

OK! I’m just coming straight out with it and admitting I don’t get how any of this works – I have struggled for days. I need someone to actually sit down and show me how it all works and explain it to me. Den has Monday’s off work and I have hit him up to come over and spend a few hours going through it all with me. So if everyone can just wait till Monday for me, I might actually be of some use to you all…. lol!
You do know it took me forever to work out how BB worked and then it took me months to work out how to post a pic!!! Ha ha ha! (And BB is super easy to understand and work). So please bare with me….

I have heaps of doggy and Henry pic’s for you FB – do I email them to you, or Amanda? I like mine to show that bunnies can live within a family free roam, especially with other pets. I think that’s another side we should show off?

As always, just let me know…..

Did your new iPad arrive yet Roberta?

PS – I’ll put my hand up for writing blog’s, and answering questions – I’m not sure if I’m clever enough for anything else, DOH! Ha ha ha….

Edit to ADD – This will happen Monday around 1pm Amanda, which is Sunday night for you. Just wanted to give you a heads up in case we need to ask you any questions while Den is helping me – can you be on BB then? I think he is computer clever enough, but I’d hate for us to get caught out if we get stuck on something.

[DethronedbyQueenB]

I don’t understand the rationale.
I get that there are wild rabbit issues and those are “pests” but domestic rabbits aren’t the same. They can’t be or turn into pests because they can’t even survive in the wild. This seems like apples and oranges to me.
There are prolly laws about raising some other wild animal like rats, snakes or something but allowing to keep them as a domesticated line.
I would look for that angle if there is a precedent in place.

This is very very sad. :/

[MissGabbster]

I’ll go through the sites later and fill out your questions, Roberta. I already went through the links when you first posted them (and liked the FB page and followed the blog) and found no problems.

I also want to let you know that when you posted a test blog post that it did show up in my feed, so that bit is working for me.

 Edit: I replied to your test comment on WordPress so you can see if replies are working.

[MoxieMeadows]

Sure, But what do the admins have to do?

[LongEaredLions]

I did kind of lead you here Moxie, hoping you could be an admin for us. All you would do is write a blog article occasionally and just check YouTube and Facebook as well to make sure everyone is playing nice. Your energy and attitude could bring so much to our team!

Andi-I am sorry this is difficult for you. It is very confusing indeed. And don’t worry, we aren’t in any kind of time crunch, so whenever it works out for you is fine. Let me know how I can help you, it took me forever to figure it out myself.

Send all piccies to me at raptqueenslandATgmailDOTcom. I think you have a great point there. Showing bunnies as part of family life is our best bet.

Once we get everything set up, you should be able to easily write articles and answer questions. And that’s the majority of it.

I should be able to be on BB then. Let me calculate the time difference, and I will hang around here and my email if you need any help whatsoever.

MissGabbster-Thanks! My questions or Robertas????? Will go check that I can see everything correctly. I did see you on FB a few days back. Are you interested in being an admin? If not that is fine too.

[MissGabbster]

Whoops, I meant your questions LEL! I think I read something of Roberta’s before writing that comment so I had Roberta on my brain! I don’t think I’m ready for admin status, I don’t know nearly enough to write accurate articles or answer questions. Maybe when I know more? I would be happy to help monitor comments and I could also help with minor technical difficulties that may arise.

[Roberta]

Hi Guys, Still relying on ducking in and out on my computer at work for the moment. New tablet has arrived and should have some time tonight to sit down and get it up and running.

[LBJ10]

I sent you an email LEL. Did you get it?

[LongEaredLions]

MissGabbster-It’s all good!
Will go check now LBJ.

[MoxieMeadows]

Okay LEL, I’d be happy to help and contribute.

[LongEaredLions]

Will do Moxie. If you have an email, facebook or google account, go ahead and PM me. Do not post it here.

Otherwise, we will just make you a little gmail account just for this. Whatever you and your parents want to do.

[Roberta]

There was avery good article in Hu Post regarding therapy bunnies for patients with dementia and altzeimers. I tried pto share it on the rapt page but I am still getting use to yhe new tablet and it didn’t work as anticipated. I will find the direct link eventually and post it.

[Roberta]

That should be Huff Post.

[MoxieMeadows]

Okay LEL, I’ll PM you. I don’t have a Facebook because I personally don’t care the the site. too public ect., you know?

[Roberta]

That should be Huff Post.

[Deleted User]

I have some bad news, Den can’t make it today, sad face!
But I have some GREAT news – it has taken me days, a lot of frustration, yelling at my hubby and tears, but I think I have wordpress and facebook sussed out, I think I’m ready to go??? WOW! Let me know when, and I can start chatting/blogging/story telling (???). I still have a few questions, but because they might come across as super dumb, I’ll keep them to a PM! LOL!

Just wanted you guys to know I am getting there!
PS Moxie – Yes, I am super worried about facebook too. Not that I think you should participate on FB, just for you to know I have all my setting’s on private and I didn’t give accurate info about myself on the chance someone can see something. I HAVE to be super careful that NO ONE can find me out because of Henry – why I never had FB in the first place. But I kept everything ‘AndHenry’ and ‘Andi’, so everyone can associate with me. I hope this makes it easy for everyone. BIG SMILE! I’d love to see you blog (on wordpress?) and answer questions there – I reckon you’d be brilliant doing that! But yes, ask you real parents and make sure they understand what we are asking you to do first, otherwise I’ll get cranky at you and have to ground you for a week! LOL!

[LBJ10]

Andi – Why would someone find Henry if you had a fb account? Wouldn’t you just have to refrain from posting bunny pictures?

[Deleted User]

With FB wouldn’t someone (the QLD Gov) be able to find me if I gave out my location, DOB, and that sort of stuff??? I think pic’s of Henry should be fine? Cause no one has seen him in real life, and no one knows where I live or my details to find me – have I got that right??? Cause I need to be able to admit to owning Henry on FB – the reason why we want bunnies to be legal here. But I can’t have people (the Government) being able to know who I am and find me…… Please, correct me if I got it wrong?

[LBJ10]

I would think they would have to have a search warrant to look at non-public info on facebook, wouldn’t they?
I know tons of people who don’t have their full name on fb. You can lie about your DOB. LOL

The only thing I can think of is authorities would be able to trace an IP address. But again, I don’t think they can simply access your non-public info. Maybe I’m wrong.

Even if you did use your real info to create an account. If you didn’t post pictures of Henry or post about him, then what would cause suspicion?

[LBJ10]

Don’t think I’m trying to push you into anything Andi. I know how worried you are. I would be paranoid too.

[Deleted User]

NO idea either LBJ??? I’m just playing it super safe. So my facebook is Andi (I have no problem with that) with a different DOB – I had fun with that, I made myself younger and an 80’s child, LOL! My location is just QLD, and I didn’t put anything like high school, work or any of that down. Just what I needed to get the account up and running for me to use on RAPT’s facebook page. I think I did well??? Ha ha ha!
I then set wordpress up as AndHenry1 – so I thought when you see my posts on both, everyone should recognize Andi and AndHenry. I was so clever (it took me 2 days – DOH!) but I even added Henry’s famous birthday picture as our profile pic! So everyone from BB will know me from that too.
It has taken over a week of tears and tantrums (I’m NOT kidding!), but I think I finally got there and am ready to go. ????

Edit to ADD – Oh no LBJ, I didn’t think that for a second! Never!

[LongEaredLions]

Posted By AndHenry on 11/16/2014 8:19 PM

I have some bad news, Den can’t make it today, sad face!
But I have some GREAT news – it has taken me days, a lot of frustration, yelling at my hubby and tears, but I think I have wordpress and facebook sussed out, I think I’m ready to go??? WOW! Let me know when, and I can start chatting/blogging/story telling (???). I still have a few questions, but because they might come across as super dumb, I’ll keep them to a PM! LOL!

Just wanted you guys to know I am getting there!
PS Moxie – Yes, I am super worried about facebook too. Not that I think you should participate on FB, just for you to know I have all my setting’s on private and I didn’t give accurate info about myself on the chance someone can see something. I HAVE to be super careful that NO ONE can find me out because of Henry – why I never had FB in the first place. But I kept everything ‘AndHenry’ and ‘Andi’, so everyone can associate with me. I hope this makes it easy for everyone. BIG SMILE! I’d love to see you blog (on wordpress?) and answer questions there – I reckon you’d be brilliant doing that! But yes, ask you real parents and make sure they understand what we are asking you to do first, otherwise I’ll get cranky at you and have to ground you for a week! LOL!

Aww Andi-this was never meant to cause that much frustration! I am so sorry!  You can PM one of us your questions, I did reply to your comments on wordpress. You are doing great, do not worry at all.

Honestly I have never had much social media either, because it scares the crap out of me. Andi I think I have told you the hubby is a professor in network security? But I have been investigating this, because I am worried as well, for all of our safety, especially Henry and Andi. My new facebook page has NO info either. I have been playing with it, and I think we should all be ok. No one who goes to the FB will have any access to any of our personal FB’s, because you are all managers of the page, anything you post will be under RAPTQueensland. No one will even know that there are 6-7 of us posting as the page, because we will all look the same. Does that make any sense at all? Ha ha ha… Only we can see who actually posted what.

[Deleted User]

Sounds great to me Amanda! I was actually PMing you and I lost it! Do you know how cranky I am??? LOL! So I am calmly taking a breather while breathing in and out!!! Lol! And I will PM you again……

Oh, and don’t feel bad Amanda! I actually feel great! NOW! I mastered it (I think???) ha ha ha! I only got frustrated when I couldn’t get anything to work cause I didn’t understand how it worked – does that make sense. Once I know, I’m all good! I’m one of those I’d rather have someone sit with me and show me in half a day, then to spend forever ‘trying’ to work it out! Like I said, remember my utter frustration when I was trying to post a pic on BB? and how long did it take me??? Ha ha ha ha! Now, I can post a pic in a second! Lol!

[LongEaredLions]

Posted By AndHenry on 11/16/2014 8:57 PM

With FB wouldn’t someone (the QLD Gov) be able to find me if I gave out my location, DOB, and that sort of stuff??? I think pic’s of Henry should be fine? Cause no one has seen him in real life, and no one knows where I live or my details to find me – have I got that right??? Cause I need to be able to admit to owning Henry on FB – the reason why we want bunnies to be legal here. But I can’t have people (the Government) being able to know who I am and find me…… Please, correct me if I got it wrong?

Your personal facebook is the one that contains all your info, whether it be fake or not. Because your account is private, only people that have sent you friend requests (and you have accepted them) can see your posts and info. If you posted a picture of Henry there, all of your friends would see it, so you do not want to post his piccies there unless all of your friends are people who already know about Henry.

The government could track you down if you had put in real info, and they can find your general area with your ip address.

This is where RAPT comes in. Essentially, that page is not related at all to your page, your account is just basically a portal to RAPT. If you post a pic of Henry there, it will look like it was posted by RAPTQueensland to everyone who isn’t a manager. No one who isn’t a manager will even know there are 6-7 different accounts posting there.

Gosh, I am horrible at explaining…. Hmmm

[LongEaredLions]

Posted By AndHenry on 11/16/2014 10:34 PM

Sounds great to me Amanda! I was actually PMing you and I lost it! Do you know how cranky I am??? LOL! So I am calmly taking a breather while breathing in and out!!! Lol! And I will PM you again……

Oh, and don’t feel bad Amanda! I actually feel great! NOW! I mastered it (I think???) ha ha ha! I only got frustrated when I couldn’t get anything to work cause I didn’t understand how it worked – does that make sense. Once I know, I’m all good! I’m one of those I’d rather have someone sit with me and show me in half a day, then to spend forever ‘trying’ to work it out! Like I said, remember my utter frustration when I was trying to post a pic on BB? and how long did it take me??? Ha ha ha ha! Now, I can post a pic in a second! Lol!

I was typing out a whole long post too and lost it aswell. I feel your pain.

I am like that too. I have spent several nights just trying to figure out how it works. I think I understand mostly now.

[Deleted User]

Bugga! I can be found with my IP address??? Ummmm…… wow! Is there anything I can do about that??? Dam dam dam! Is that easy to do???

[Deleted User]

Oh, and I only have ‘ONE’ friend on facebook – my son!  How shameful, ha ha haha ha!

[LongEaredLions]

Your ip address is tied to your computer/network. Without a subpoena(warrant), the most anybody can find is your basic location (state, city) and service provider. So not easy to do. Pretty much what LBJ said.

 

[LongEaredLions]

Posted By AndHenry on 11/16/2014 11:04 PM

Oh, and I only have ‘ONE’ friend on facebook – my son!  How shameful, ha ha haha ha!

You have me beat still-I have none!

[Deleted User]

COOL! So good to know – I should be ok! And seriously, I’m not that out there (only on BB, ha haha!), so I should be ok.

I’ll friend you on FB Amanda – I sent you my info for you to invite me…. LOL! Then I’ll have ‘2’ friends! This is hilarious! Talk about looser’s!
Seriously, I am laughing so hard! NO friends and ONE friend! (my son!). Way too funny!

[LongEaredLions]

Yep, you’ll be ok.
Yay! A friend! Ha ha ha!

[Deleted User]

I’m still laughing! Looser’s! Ha ha haha ha….

[LongEaredLions]

I tried to friend you…. Umm I don’t know how?
Talk about losers!

[Deleted User]

I haven’t got a clue either??? (Why I gave you the info to invite ME!) Lol!
My son did mine (why he is my friend – I’m surprised he hasn’t ditched me yet???) Ha ha ha ha ha…..
Gosh we make a great pair! LOL!

[LongEaredLions]

Yup- a pair if social-media ignorant losers! Ha ha ha! But you did figure it out.

[MoxieMeadows]

AH— WordPress? Which one is that?

[LongEaredLions]

That’s the blog.

[MoxieMeadows]

Okay, I would love to start with just the blog and then go from there LEL? Thanks
I honestly don’t like FB much, you always hear about kidnapping, stalking ect. all starting from there. Gives me the shudders. o.O

[MoxieMeadows]

AH— You really think I’m that naughty?

[LBJ10]

You have to search for the person and go to their timeline. There should be an “Add Friend” button on the right side of their page. Then they will get a notification that they have a friend request and they have to accept the request before you are officially “friends”.

[A Flying Brick]

AH, I’d still try to be careful. Make sure no people or landmarks are in the photos you post. For example I have a picture of Riley on my windowsill, through the window you can see my garden and a sign for a train station. So it’s not rocket science to find my flat.
Also ip adresses aren’t the most accurate but they can narrow down the area.
Personally I hate facebook, since everything you post is owned by facebook. That’s why I suggested Tumblr or Deviantart since they let you keep copyright on everything you post.

[MoxieMeadows]

AH— FaceBook is very dangerous, and yes, if the goverment really wanted to find somebody, I’m sure it wouldn’t be too hard. Be very careful.

[Deleted User]

Thanks FB and Moxie! Honestly, all’s I have on my FB is Henry’s birthday picture that I posted on BB when we celebrated his birthday – all’s you can see is him, my hand, a bowl of dog food and a can of COKE! Lol!
Anyhow, Roberta friended me (YAY!) – so I’m sure if I’ve done anything wrong with it, she will pick up on it and let me know (are you reading this Roberta???). Any information that I HAD to provide to use FB has been altered and my daughter (who is a facebook queen) put my setting’s on private, so I am confident (so far…. lol!). Also, I don’t plan to use mine (I only have 2 friends, 3 if Amanda friends me, ha ha ha!) and I only plan to use FB for RAPT – and as Amanda said, no one will be able to see me (except the other admins who I trust completely!), so I think it’s all good….
But THANK YOU! I really appreciate your concerns for me – it’s people like you that ‘remind’ me how careful I NEED to be, which I already mostly am. As most of you guys know, except for family and you guys on BB – NO ONE knows that we own Henry!

PS – Not even Henry knows we own Henry – he thinks he owns us!

[MoxieMeadows]

Okay but be careful AH, you don’t know what kind of wack-a-doodles could be out there.

[A Flying Brick]

AH still, I’m kinda paraniod.
There are people who would dob you in just because they can, QBL’s story shows that.
I’d be careful having your dog in the same pic, your dog has to be taken for a walk or taken to the vet meaning people can see it. What I’m getting is that if someone reconises your dog, they can work out where you live. Also make sure no one you know irl is friends with this page since, as MM said, wack-a-doodles.

I actually looked this up, the fine for multiple high range drink driving is less than the fine for having a rabbit. I could be caught 4-5 times for being blind drunk and driving in QLD and still not rack up $44,000 in fines.

[Deleted User]

I know FB! How dumb is that! $44 grand for Henry to live the life of luxury on my bed, being fed banana and craisins everyday – it’s insane! The thought of drink driving and getting away with less punishment than owning a spoiled bunny??? Did I mention our Government is DUMB! Today – I put the AC on for Henry (it’s bloody hot again – bugga!).

And I hate to admit this (ha ha ha), I don’t walk my dog’s! They are little old house dog’s. Their exercise is running to the door if someone knocks, lol! And they go to a different vet to Henry – it was actually my dog vet who told me to go to the exotic vet in the next town when I enquired on a ‘friends’ behalf wanting their bunny neutered, ha ha ha! They didn’t flinch – just explained the difference to me (which I didn’t know – ooop’s! Lol!). And Henry’s vet fell over himself to assist us! Nope, no one see’s our dog’s or Henry (how sad is that, ha haha!) and I’ve never worried once since having Henry. I honestly think the secret is – don’t ‘tell’ anyone that you know personally.

Everything I share is on BB! Just to give you peace of mind FB, when I first became a member, BB herself assured me they couldn’t get my info – that’s why BB is a HUGE part of my life. This is where I bunny talk. Safe and secure! And everyone that I am close with and knows that bit more about me, I trust 110%!

And as LBJ said you have to know someone’s name to find them on facebook – why I am guessing Amanda couldn’t find me to friend me with my altered surname? But I was able to find Roberta casue I know her surname?
The ONLY thing I am worried about is the Government finding me through the IP address? But if I’m using FB under RAPT, I think they should find it hard, cause all the admins are from all over the world. And any friends I’d have (there is nothing to see) would only be BB friends anyway.

PS – No one I know knows about BB, if they did, do you think I’d talk the way I do??? Ha ha ha! My hubby and kid’s do, but they have NO interest! The only time they looked (and I forced them!) was to see my birthday thread (they loved it Amanda!), but it stops there for them! BB is all MINE!

PPS – And my youngest son can’t dob! He crossed the border and bought Henry for me for Mother’s day 2 years ago, ha haha! I’ll dob him in too! LOL!

[A Flying Brick]

http://kaiserneko.tumblr.com/post/103022413475 probably the best summary of what you can do with a ip address, it’s nothing dangerous or nsfw, just an example of what someone can find out about you.

Sure it’s not like the AFP is after you AH, but it does show exactly how much info there is about any of us online.

It seems like alot of vets are for legalization, maybe RAPT can use that….

[Deleted User]

Ummmmm WOW!
I’m lost for words…… WOW! But good for them for finding and exposing horrible people like that! I get it, people like that deserve to be caught out. But not people like me – who just want to love and enjoy a healthy, neutered, well cared for pet bunny.

Again, scary to think I can get caught for owning a spoiled bunny through an IP address when I do the right thing and tell no one – yet there is a world filled with people who cause grief to other’s that have yet to be caught out. Shame on anyone (Government) who spends time trying to find me when their resources and money could be better spent on finding actual criminals that cause harm and distress on other’s.

The hubby and I have a plan in place and know that if someone approaches our home we can and will refuse them – that will give us time to get Henry out and destroy the evidence. But our intention will always be to bring him back home. He’s our family!

Henry’s vet is great, but apparently a lot aren’t – sadly! I love the idea of getting our vets involved, but then I worry about them being targeted too? Our vet has our true real info – I trust them. And that’s one of the problems I want to address – a lot of bunny owners, and there are LOTS of them, are to afraid to consider vet care in case their bun gets taken – that has happened so often it destroys me inside when I think about it. There is so much to this…. not just me, but hundreds if not thousands of scared bunny owner’s living in Queensland.

[A Flying Brick]

Still chances are that guy had his life on facebook.
Most likely no one will be after you, annons mostly work against the law and wouldn’t want to separate you and Henry.
Sadly if the police recive a complaint they have to investigate, either about a spoiled house bunny or a meth lab, they have to look into it and fill out a report. But chances are they’ll just come to the door and ask if you have a rabbit, you can lie but I think that adds an extra fine.

[Deleted User]

I can safely say that I’ve never had the police come to my door – hell, I’ve never even had a speeding fine! I’m as clean as they come! Ha ha ha! My previous work history was not only based on, but relied on that. And I do nothing to cause anyone to complain about me, even when my dog’s bark for more than a minute I always tell them to sshhh! I promise you I’m not worried about any of that – it’s only the IP address thingo. I never knew, nor did I think about it till now – bugga!

I had to laugh (sorry) about the meth lab thing – I have heard about that and I do take it seriously. But as most BBer’s know – I’m a sucker for wine! Every Friday night! Ha ha ha ha…… Once I have half a glass I don’t post (except on my birthday, which was super funny!). It’s a standing joke, I don’t drink and post! LOL!

[Hazel]

Posted By AndHenry on 11/19/2014 8:57 AM

I can safely say that I’ve never had the police come to my door – hell, I’ve never even had a speeding fine! I’m as clean as they come! Ha ha ha! My previous work history was not only based on, but relied on that. And I do nothing to cause anyone to complain about me, even when my dog’s bark for more than a minute I always tell them to sshhh! I promise you I’m not worried about any of that – it’s only the IP address thingo. I never knew, nor did I think about it till now – bugga!

I had to laugh (sorry) about the meth lab thing – I have heard about that and I do take it seriously. But as most BBer’s know – I’m a sucker for wine! Every Friday night! Ha ha ha ha…… Once I have half a glass I don’t post (except on my birthday, which was super funny!). It’s a standing joke, I don’t drink and post! LOL!

I don’t think you should get involved with them at all if anyone comes to your door. That will just complicate things for you, like AFB said, you might have to lie and thus get yourself in potentially even more trouble. Just don’t answer the door. Keep it simple.

I don’t drink and post either, but afterwards I post about the new pet I bought while I was drunk.

[Deleted User]

Posted By Hazel on 11/19/2014 9:10 AM

I don’t drink and post either, but afterwards I post about the new pet I bought while I was drunk.

I know I should be drunk, or at least have a few wines before I say this – but DAM, I love you Hazel!  You know how to make me laugh! You crack me up big time!

[MoxieMeadows]

$44 thousand dollars for a fine for owning a rabbit? That’s insane! (I got that right, right?)

[LongEaredLions]

A Flying Brick-Wow! How kind of you for being so concerned for our precious Andi and Henry! (You are a real part of the family now, we all adore her!) Personally, I think we will be fine, we have done everything in our power to be as safe as possible, and Andi and her family have always been very cautious. But how clever are you, checking that we thought of everything-Thank you!

[A Flying Brick]

Thx LEL
Us Aussies tend to stick together.

Basically I just wanted to show that “just an ip address” isn’t safe. On the plus side google maps here are insanely out of date. One spot was from 2009 and missing a highway. Like I said chances are that guy had his life on facebook so chances are alot of the info came from there and the US equivalant of freedom of information. It’s the same trick dodgy psychics use to “read” your auras.

[willowjinxy]

Hi everyone, sorry I haven’t been back for a while but just read through what I have missed. You guys are doing a great job and I can’t thank you enough for supporting us bunny lovers in Qld with our cause. I am happy for you to use my story if u think it will help. Could someone please tell me how to post photos to this site? I would love to share some pictures of my bunnies but I am having trouble uploading them.

[Hazel]

Posted By AndHenry on 11/19/2014 9:29 AM

I know I should be drunk, or at least have a few wines before I say this – but DAM, I love you Hazel!  You know how to make me laugh! You crack me up big time!

LOL!!! Right back at you, AndHenry! I’m not drunk either, promise!

I wish I could help out with RAPT, I’m just so bad at computer stuff.  If you guys ever want any pictures of Oscar, let me know. I have a lot of bunny/cat pictures and a couple of cute videos as well, if you ever want to do something interspecies related. (Not sure how exactly it would help, but anyway…)

[Deleted User]

OMGosh YES!!! Please Hazel! We want (need) to pinch ALL your Oscar pictures! No one needs to know how abrupt (vicious, ha ha!) he is. We just want to show off all his adorableness! And lets be honest – he IS adorable! I love him so much that I would let him tear me to shreds for one cuddle! It’s worth it… LOL!
And please, keep taking those video’s, especially with Lily! Save them for us please, and when we are ready we will be in touch to use them.

See this is how BBer’s can help us out without actually physically helping (does that make sense? Lol!). These pictures and video’s are gonna make us great! And will help us in ways we will never be able to thank you enough for.

Thank you again Hazel – we are truly grateful!

[Deleted User]

Thanks so much QBL for letting us use your story – we are all mortified about the position you are in and want you to get your bunnies back and stop this from happening to anyone else! Again, if you have any suggestions, please don’t be shy – tell us!

To post pictures (YES PLEASE!) just click ‘REPLY’ on a member’s post. Scroll down and you will see attachments. Click on that to open it and it will show browse, click on that to search for your photo then click on upload. Then another line will show up and click on show image. Wait a little and it should show up, then hit submit.
My gosh, I told you that from memory – I hope I got it right…. if that doesn’t work, let us know (and I’ll sack myself! LOL!).

I have to add, Henry just bunny walked past me – I still can’t get over I have a bunny!!!!! I know, after all this time I should be over it – I’m not! He’s still so…. bunny! Ha ha ha ha!

[LBJ10]

So when will the blog be ready?

[LongEaredLions]

The blog is pretty much ready-we should start brainstorming ideas for posts.

Some ideas:
-Wild vs. domestic rabbits (this is a BIGGIE!)
-Therapy rabbits
-Rabbits free range and alongside other pets
-Playfullness
-Spay/neuter education
-Litterboxes! (I think it is important to show that rabbits are neat!)
-Rabbits interacting with a family, etc
-Rabbit bonds (rabbit/rabbit buddies)
-Different rabbit breeds

Basically just things that will teach people about rabbits and their nature and show them how cute they are.
More ideas?

[willowjinxy]

I will try to get some photos soon – I think my husband has put them on a hard drive.
I wanted to let you know that I know someone with a sadder story than mine. I am sure she would be happy to share it with you.

[Hazel]

Posted By AndHenry on 11/25/2014 3:27 AM

No one needs to know how abrupt (vicious, ha ha!) he is.

LOL! That’s a good way to put it! “He’s not mean, just slightly abrupt!” Love it!

I’ll be happy to let you guys use any pictures/videos you want. I guess I’ll wait for any specific ideas/requests, or else I would have to post a bazillion of them, I have way too many…

[Deleted User]

Posted By Hazel on 11/26/2014 10:50 AM

LOL! That’s a good way to put it! “He’s not mean, just slightly abrupt!” Love it!

ABRUPT is now the new word for describing ‘not so friendly bunnies’, ha ha haha ha!

Can you imagine a RAPT post…… some bunnies can be abrupt, blah, blah – super funny! And deep in our hearts ‘we’ will know what that means, ha ha ha!

Lets hope they are all as CUTE as Oscar is! I wouldn’t swap Oscar for the world – talk about personality!  

[A Flying Brick]

Hey guys, it’s been awhile. I’ve been sick so I haven’t been awake enough to be able to post.

It’s great if as many bunny slaves as possible can share their stories, sad or not. All of us have stories so it would be nice if we set up a tumblr of just our stories (while reblogging anything related to cute bunnys).
I remember when I was little, it was when my dad worked as a ranger for the local pound. It was summer and someone had abandoned some unsold rabbits after a market. Alot had died from the heat but my dad still brought back the survivers to our house and let them run in our backyard. I was only little so it was kinda magical. Most of them were the big New Zealand giants so they were the biggest rabbits I’d ever seen. It was all fun and games until one bit the top off my sister’s finger. She still has the scar.

[MoxieMeadows]

LEL— I think litterbox training/education is a good blog idea. Everybody I tell don’t believe me (that buns can be trained to use a litterbox), so it would be great to get that info out there.
I’ll try and brainstorm some ideas for us all too.

[MoxieMeadows]

Maybe something about their diet and how important hay and fresh greens/fruits/veggies are to their system?

[LongEaredLions]

A Flying Brick-I think it is a good idea for those of us who want to share our stories. You mentioned Tumblr, isn’t that just a mini-blogging network? I think that since we already have our blog, we can hold off on that for a while, as I think we should be able to post (on our blog) just fine and adding more social media is just adding more things to manage. Maybe in the future, but for now I don’t think that is necessary. What do the rest of you think about this?

Although I really don’t know that much about Tumblr. Could you give me a little explanation of how it works? 
 Who would like to share their story? (You don’t have to be an admin.) Just how you got your bunny, etc?

MM-Diet would be good as just an informative one, but my thought was if we emphasized the importance of veggies people might worry for agriculture? Could be just me, but it’s a thought. But we definitely should do one about the diet in general, good idea.

[A Flying Brick]

Posted By LongEaredLions on 11/30/2014 7:24 PM

A Flying Brick-I think it is a good idea for those of us who want to share our stories. You mentioned Tumblr, isn’t that just a mini-blogging network? I think that since we already have our blog, we can hold off on that for a while, as I think we should be able to post (on our blog) just fine and adding more social media is just adding more things to manage. Maybe in the future, but for now I don’t think that is necessary. What do the rest of you think about this?

Although I really don’t know that much about Tumblr. Could you give me a little explanation of how it works? 
 Who would like to share their story? (You don’t have to be an admin.) Just how you got your bunny, etc?

MM-Diet would be good as just an informative one, but my thought was if we emphasized the importance of veggies people might worry for agriculture? Could be just me, but it’s a thought. But we definitely should do one about the diet in general, good idea.

Tumblr is more a post sharing network. Alot of people use it for blogs sinces it’s a good way to get your blog followed and to share stories/photos. You make an account which becomes your main blog then you can make a side blog. Each blog has it’s own URL and you can keep the RAPT blog separate from your account. https://www.tumblr.com/docs/en/blog_management basically is all you need to know (sorry for sounding like a ad but it’s just a link to how the blogs work) I’m happy to be an admin it but I kinda don’t want to run it since I tend to get sick and not do anything for weeks plus my net is bad so I don’t want to leave you waiting for ages for me to aprove changes.

 I’m happy to share stories, it’s just none of mine would make good reading :/

Yeah the whole rabbits eat crops thing is one of the main reasons people cite for keeping this law in place. So I’d just try to keep a good step away from the whole rabbits eating ____ issues. I’d keep it to the whole “de-sexed inside bunny not being a theat to the enviroment” thing.

[MoxieMeadows]

LEL— No, I totally agree with you. If we do a diet related blog-post-thing we should definately be careful with how we word things. We don’t want to give any leg room for the Government to try and find a reason to convince the public that legalizing rabbits is a bad idea. I don’t think any other state had a famine due to rabbits though, or am I totally out of the world news?

So have we got any other ideas?

[LongEaredLions]

A Flying Brick-Thanks, I will look into that!
Moxie-This is not really related to what you said, but since we will need lots of topics, I think getting more specific would be good. We could do histories of a specific breed, explanations of a certain behavior, etc. Split large topics such as desexing into smaller, more readable/writable chunks. So for example, talk about spaying in one, neutering in another. Rabbits and dogs in one, rabbits and cats in another. This should make sure that we keep things easy to read for the public and a bit easier on us. Sound good?

[MoxieMeadows]

Sounds good. It will make it more user/reader-friendly, and it will be easier for us to put together smaller posts like that.

[LongEaredLions]

Ok everybody! I think all the sites are ready, so we can start whenever you guys are ready.

[LBJ10]

What would you like from everyone LEL?

[LBJ10]

This is a few months old. I wish I could find more info on it.
http://www.brainerddispatch.com/video/3792254138001

[LBJ10]

This is from last spring, but it’s an actual news story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdr2H1hoYWw

[MoxieMeadows]

Aww, those videos were so sweet! :’)

[LongEaredLions]

Those videos are adorable LBJ. We will have to use those.
I don’t know. I figure we just get started? LOL! I will try to write a kind of “intro” blog article, I guess?

[LBJ10]

Those “Monday” posts on fb sure are popular. I guess I’ll have to keep it up. Are there going to be some articles on the blog to share soon?

[LongEaredLions]

All I can say LBJ, is you are doing a great job! The rest of us sure need to pick up some slack! I will try to get some articles written, if anyone else could that would be great as well. Need to get caught up on here first.

[LBJ10]

I just thought that if people had liked the page, then something should be showing up in their news feeds.

[LongEaredLions]

Good thinking. I think I will go write a blog article right now, probably just a kind of introduction thing to let them know a bit more about what we are doing. Sound good?

[LBJ10]

Sure thing! Let me know if you need anything done.

[LongEaredLions]

Thanks LBJ, you have already done so much already, thank you!

[MoxieMeadows]

LEL, I thought I would write maybe a few “test” blogs here about some of the topics you suggested, and then we could all tweak them a little and add stuff until they are ready to be posted on our RAPT website. Sound good?

[MoxieMeadows]

 (Feel free to criticize! I don’t think writing is really my strong point, and this is just a rough draft type thing. I’m looking forward to everybody finding new and interesting things to add, and to help with the order we should put info in and how it’s worded!) (Oh, and all of this information was found on the internet. If any of my facts are wrong PLEASE let me know and I will make sure it gets fixed!)

 

Rabbit breeds.

The more popular rabbits are becoming as pets, the more we should be informed about our rabbits and how to care for them. In this article you will dive into some fascinating information about rabbit breeds, how some breeds need different care, color and patterns and what some of the most popular pet rabbit breeds are. Interested in adopting and are interested in knowing what there are for breeds out there? Follow this link to discover the world of rabbit breeds. (Will find good link later, or somebody else could find an accurate website)

First let us get into some technical stuff about rabbits. Rabbits are small mammals who are in the family Leporidae and in the order Lagomorpha.

There are so many different rabbit breeds. They come in all sorts of shapes, sizes and beautiful colors and patterns! There are 47 accepted breeds in America, and around the same number in Britain. There are still many different breeds to pick from that are not recognized or accepted by ARBA or BRC.

Rabbits vary so much in sizes that you can be sure there is a size just right for you! The Netherland Dwarf is one of the smallest rabbit breeds, The max weight being only 2 and a half pounds! Compared to a Continental Giant whose minimum weight is 14 pounds and have been known to to be 30 pounds or more! There are five basic body “profiles.”

Commercial– The rabbits in this category are normally used for production/meat purposes. They can look similar to the rabbits in the “compact” category, although they are bigger.

Compact

Cylindrical– The sole representative in this category is the Himalayan rabbit.

Fully Arched

Semi Arched.

    There are four main types of rabbit fur. They are: Normal rabbit fur, Rex, Satin and wool.

 

 

This is as far as I have gotten so far. Please feel free to help me out with writing this! I am not exactly “gifted” in this area!

[LongEaredLions]

That is great Moxie-the only thing I would say is that we all need to remember we are talking to people who know almost nothing about rabbits. I think keeping things informative, but also simple and short would be the best way to go. We don’t want to overwhelm anyone! So maybe leave out the body types and and fur types, and just talk about a few of the most common breeds?Just my opinion. What do the rest of you think?
Great job MM.

[LBJ10]

You are opening a whole new can of worms if you start talk fur types and colors. I would pick some popular breeds (just a few) and give some information about them, including their unique and endearing qualities.

[MoxieMeadows]

Okay great guys. I’ll edit stuff tomorrow. If anybody has anything they want to ad to it that would be great too. And you will all have to keep me in check, I can be very long winded and technical!

[LongEaredLions]

Same here Moxie. Whenever I start to write something, I have it in my mind that I have to include every possible piece of info, and sometimes it just ends up too long and technical. :/

[LBJ10]

LEL – There’s a message for you on fb.

[Diamond]

Animal Planet did a Pets 101 segment on rabbits way back when. That might be nice to include.

Here’s the cut-down basic version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzSRFpa5CPc

and the extended tv version, featuring Teddy’s daddy Darius! (skips a bit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5HUPR72B9s

[LongEaredLions]

I message for me? How do i look at it? One second….

[LBJ10]

Top left, there is an activity tab. Click that, then click messages (on the left, under notifications). The message shows up there.

[LongEaredLions]

Thanks. Got it.

[MoxieMeadows]

Sorry I haven’t gotten to edit that again yet. Life has been super busy! :/

[LongEaredLions]

No worries MM.

[MissGabbster]

I liked the “A bit about us” post. I thought it was a nice introductory post. It was short and to the point and there’s no risk of readers being bogged down by information.

The Pets 101 segment was interesting. I think that’s def something that you could share on the social media accounts! EDIT: Maybe only share the basic version? The extended segment mentions a college where people have dumped unwanted unspayed/unneutered rabbits and they keep breeding. They’ve created a program where they catch the rabbits and ‘fix’ them but it’s probably not something that would help this cause.

 

Have you guys thought about setting up a Twitter account?

[LongEaredLions]

Glad you liked it. I did hope it wasn’t too abrupt.
I agree about the segment. Exponential breeding is not the message we want to give.
People have been asking about twitter, tumblr, etc. I think we will get to that eventually, but for now, with how many people we have, I think we have quite enough to manage.

[LBJ10]

LEL – I just got the greatest idea! You could post a DIY bunny toy every once in awhile as a multi-part series for the blog!

[LongEaredLions]

Good idea.

[Deleted User]

I just added a photo and tried to add the headline ‘Just hanging out with MY dog’ – the headline didn’t show up! And the photo looks crap! DOH! Sorry!

I think I am getting back to normal in my house again – I want to write about how a wild rabbit is different to a domesticated pet bunny, and how they live wonderfully in our homes. Anyhow, I’m gonna do what Moxie did – I’ll write my thing and post it here for approval and for ‘someone’ else to post, ha ha ha ha!
Sorry for being a slacko…. I was SO tired these last few days, you should read my post on Tokii’s thread – what happening to my bunny’s ear!?
You’ll understand why I haven’t posted much, LOL!

PS – If you want to remove the photo I posted, I understand completely! If you’s want to leave it, can someone add the heading ‘hanging out with MY dog!” please. Thanks guys!

[JackRabbit]

I really do want to help . . . just trying to find a block of time to figure everything out….

[Deleted User]

That would be so cool if you did JR – I reckon your input would be invaluable (your so clever) and even better – so funny!

YAY for JR joining the team!

[Deleted User]

Hey, just a thought…. I reckon use the ‘word’ bunny for pets and rabbits for the wild. This may sound silly, but mention the word bunny and MY ear’s prick! Ha ha ha! Rabbit is so easily thought of as in buying a rabbit from the butcher (EEEK!) (no one buy’s a bunny from the butcher), and pest/’wild rabbit’s’. Again, I know it sounds silly, but that’s how rabbits are considered here in QLD. Say bunny…. that melts everyone’s (nearly) hearts, thinking of cute loving bunnies….. a rabbit roams freely causing damage.

Another topic if anyone wants to grab it??? How wonderful bunny’s are to toilet train. Everyone thinks they poop and pee everywhere like a duck outside. No one believes me when I say Henry toilet trained himself (less the territorial marking) and are also hugely surprised (ME!!!) that they can be de-sexed! (who knew??? Not me!) LOL!

Different breeds/different sizes – yep, that’s a good one. But yes, keep it simple, remember us Aussie’s take a lot of stuff lightly, don’t complicate it cause it only confuses us, ha ha ha! If something seems to hard, I (personally) walk away from it, they need to be seen to be any easy pet to care for, which they are compared to a cat, dog or some breeds of birds. But in the next breath, we need to be honest – chewing!!! LOL! Then emphasize that they don’t bark and annoy people – roam outside like some cats (DAM awful owners!), sleep while your at work, etc. etc., you get my drift….
Anyhow, that’s just some of my idea’s for now – I hope that’s ok?

And Moxie – how awesome are you!!! Of coarse you are – your OUR stolen daughter! Great job!

[MoxieMeadows]

Aww thanks Andi. I’ll try and make it simple. It’s hard when you’re sharing only 1 computer! And last night/yesterday we had to prepare for a snowstorm we’re having right now. We’re going to get over a foot of snow! So maybe I’ll be able to find some time today to finish that up!

[LongEaredLions]

Yay for RAPT!
Btw-we had a facebook member (queenslander) interested in joining us. I will investigate her a but further to make sure she is legit, then probably ask her to join bb so we can chat with her a bit. What do you guys think would be safest/best?
Ill start a blog on litter training… And I will have a sticky over at your post AH to see if I can add a headline.
Great job everyone!

[LongEaredLions]

AH-looks like someone got it.

[MoxieMeadows]

The more popular rabbits are becoming as pets, the more we should be informed about our rabbits and how to care for them. In this article you will dive into some fascinating information about rabbit breeds, how some breeds need different care and what some of the most popular pet rabbit breeds are. Interested in adopting and are interested in knowing what there are for breeds out there? Follow this link to discover the world of rabbit breeds. (Will find good link later, or somebody else could find an accurate website)

First let us get into some technical stuff about rabbits. Rabbits are small mammals who are in the family Leporidae and in the order Lagomorpha. There are 5 basic body profiles and rabbits normally have either “floppy ears” or “straight ears.” Rabbits who have floppy ears are normally lop rabbits or lop mixes. Rabbits with ears that stand up on their head are normally all all other breeds. Although there are a few “helicopter” bunnies who are usually lop mixes.

Lop eared rabbits are slightly more susceptible to ear infections and deafness, so you should always keep an eye on them to discover any signs of infection/deafness.

There are so many different rabbit breeds. They come in all sorts of shapes, sizes and beautiful colors and patterns! There are 47 accepted breeds in America, and around the same number in Britain. There are still many different breeds to pick from that are not recognized or accepted by ARBA or BRC.

Rabbits vary so much in sizes that you can be sure there is a size just right for you! The Netherland Dwarf is one of the smallest rabbit breeds, The max weight being only 2 and a half pounds! Compared to a Continental Giant whose minimum weight is 14 pounds and have been known to to be 30 pounds or more!

Bunnies are becoming more and more popular as pets, so lets take a look at some of the most popular breeds that are making their way into our homes.

Mini Rex— With their sweet personality and incredibly soft, velvet like fur, they make a wonderful pet.

Lionhead—They are small with soft fur, that normally grows longer around their neck and chest area, giving them a striking look.

Lops— With so many breeds and their floppy ears and squishy faces, what’s not to love?

Dutch— Originating in Holland and their striking patterns, they are growing popular as pets.

Netherland dwarf— Being so tiny and adorable with unique personalities, they tend to draw attention to themselves.

There are so many other breeds though that are popular, like the jersey wooly, angora, and flemish giants.

 

I think it’s missing something… Any help? Lol.

[MoxieMeadows]

LEL— What would you be having her involved with? I think it’s great we are getting queenslanders involved, but I don’t think I’d make her an admin right off the bat…

[LongEaredLions]

Agreed MM. When we first get her in, I think we will start her off on the blog, on the lowest authorization, where the omly thing she would be able to do is post articles. Then we will go from there.

[MoxieMeadows]

Okay LEL. Do you know anything about her, like does she has any expierience with bunnies? (Okay now that I think about that, it’s MOST likely a dumb question because she says she’s from Queensland). I would just be cautious. We don’t know how much we can trust this person yet…

[Diamond]

Oh, I agree about the exponential breeding thing. I just thought it was worth showing the full version too.

[LongEaredLions]

Yes MM-we do need to be very careful with this, especially before exposing her to AH. I will be checking to make sure she is indeed from QLD, I will also poke-around a bit more. I will get you guys the messages she sent one minute.

[LongEaredLions]

Here is what was said. I have a slight suspicion she may/may have had a rabbit in the past, although I could be wrong. I did try to be a bit careful, she sounded so much like Andi, it was hard!

Jess Ica
Hi there,

I run a teeny tiny micro-rescue for guinea pigs called New BeGUINEAings in Brisbane. I just wanted to extend an offer of support. If you need another person to help with, well, stuff, please let me know. I love bunnies and would dearly love to legally own one (well, let’s be honest, when I say “one” I mean “half a dozen”).

Cheers! And a big woo! to the eventual legalisation of rabbits in Queensland.

Jessica
Jan 23 at 8:50pm · Sent from Web

RAPTQueensland
Hi Jessica!

Thank you so much for offering, we could definitely use some help, especially from those in QLD. The majority of us are either American, Canadian, or British, so having inside help is great. I don’t know if you have seen our other sites, as we are just starting up, but do check them out if you haven’t already.

Thank you again for offering. I will talk to the team about how we can best integrate you in, either as a blog admin, Facebook admin, etc, depending on what you feel most comfortable doing.

Half a dozen? If I was able to, I would have at least a dozen! LOL! I am pretty happy with my current two babies. On a more related note, I also have 4 guinea pigs. So nice to hear you run a rescue.

Cheers,
LionheadLover/Amanda
Jan 24 at 11:00am

Jess Ica
Hi, hi!

I’ve had a look at your other sites… I think it’s very cool that a bunch of people from all over the world felt compelled to do something about Queensland’s rabbit laws (and the ignorance shown by many of the people who uphold the laws. Rabbits are rodents? Really?). I’d love to help in any way that I can. I am pretty busy, but legalising rabbits is important to me. I love bunnies so much, and it’s time Queensland reviewed the 135 year old law and brought it in inline with current veterinary practices and allowed responsible people in Queensland to keep rabbits, provided they are desexed, vaccinated and microchipped. Anyway, I will have a think about how I can help too. I figured you’ve already gotten in contact with the group Legalize Pet Rabbits in Queensland, I think Radical Rabbit would be a good group to like and get in contact with too? They seem like a passionate group of bunny people! https://www.facebook.com/RadicalRabbit?fref=ts

Anyway, thank you for making the page and getting behind the cause. Vote 1, rabbits for QLD!

Radical Rabbit
Non-Profit Organization
1,281 likes
Jan 24 at 7:52pm · Sent from Web

[MoxieMeadows]

LEL— I was also thinking about how we should be careful about exposing her to AH. We definitely DO NOT want to jeopardize anybody who lives in Queensland and are a part or BB.

[MoxieMeadows]

Maybe we should wait to hear what AH says, maybe PM her about it?

[Hazel]

We should probably do a background check on her…

[JackRabbit]

I don’t think her being an admin is a good idea (feels very protective of A and H). Any reason she couldn’t e-mail a blog entry or write a “story” whenever she had time — maybe something “from an insider’s view” — that an admin could post for her?

I know, just call me paranoid!

[Roberta]

I think that would be a good idea for her protection too, as well as A&H.

[LBJ10]

Yes, if she’s serious about helping then she can write some articles and submit them to you LEL. Then you can post them.

[Deleted User]

Even though I’m an admin too – I plan to write my thing and add it here for everyone’s approval, and I’d be more than happy for Amanda to then post it.
I don’t doubt for a second that ‘Jess’ is being sincere, but I also think this is a BB thing and we should keep it that way. We ‘I’ take a lot of comfort that we know each other – no offense is taken when corrections need to be made, we have a personal understanding along with respect and appreciation for us as individuals (I adore how we are all so different and yet we have come together over our love for bunny’s! And even better, we all like/love each other!!!).
OH! And most importantly – TRUST!!! I honestly and genuinely trust you guys to the moon and back!

I love that Jess wants to help, especially being a QLDer – but I agree, submit what you want to add for it to be checked over and let Amanda submit it. A good example is – I’m not good with facts, so I want to write about what I know personally with Henry and what I have learned since having him. And I expect that any mistake I make will be picked up on and corrected, especially by LBJ knowing her stuff with her education about the wild rabbits here and our eco system (did I get that right LBJ??? Lol!).

And YES!!! IF Jess owns a bunny, we don’t want to jeopardize her – that would be just awful!

[Deleted User]

That is just brilliant Moxie! Great job – I knew you’d be awesome!

BUT!!! And if anyone thinks I’m going over the top with this PLEASE tell me! I still think change the word rabbit to ‘bunny’ – only use the word rabbit when we are referring to wild rabbits. I don’t know if it’s a ‘me’ (why I am asking) or a QLDer thing – but as soon as you say ‘rabbit’ everyone gasps! Say bunny and everyone oooh’s and ahhh’s…… Keep in mind, this is not a subject I talk (verbally) about often, but for the bit that I have over the many years and watching local (QLD) articles, that is what I picked on. Like I said, let me know if you think I’m being silly???

Ummmm……. here’s an idea – I know my memory is fading (bloody getting old!), but I still remember ‘everything’ Henry! DOH! I was thinking, how about if I write a weekly article about how I got him and NOT knowing a thing, to everything I have learned along the way including all the funny, cute (NOT! Lol!) stuff we have endured. I would also (without naming the bunny) share some stories of other BBer’s and how/why I thought it was funny or important to know, include some tragedy’s – basically tell a story of my time from getting Henry and becoming a BBer. I’ll see if I can do a draft tonight to give you guys an idea and you can ALL let me know from there……
My biggest issue is – I want to say how hard it was for me being a QLDer. I think that’s the whole point to my story. If Amanda submits it from this forum – it can’t be tracked to me, can it? Amanda, we’re facebook friends – you can’t see any of my info, can you??? Can you Roberta??? Honestly, I left everything blank – to me, there is NOTHING to see – especially location. Let me know…..

[Deleted User]

Here goes…..

*I deleted it – it was silly, sorry…..  

So everyone – what do you think??? A BIG no no?

[Deleted User]

Then the next one…..

*Sorry, just as silly! But I will try again!

This should give you guys a pretty good idea of what it is that I was thinking/I wanted to contribute…….

[MoxieMeadows]

AH— I was planning on changing the word “rabbit” to “bunny” before it was published. OH, and now I’M probably being paranoid, but maybe not to mention BB’s name, we wouldn’t want A/H ( ) to get tracked back to here or something…

[LongEaredLions]

So glad you guys are more clever than me-having her email the articles is a good idea, I think that should also help calm all of our worries a bit. I reckon any articles you write with “henryish” info Andi should be emailed to me and i will post it as “from an inside source.” Then if you have anything informational, you should post it as yourself, and hopefully no one will make a connection. And I have avoided mentioning BB, for me, it has been “a rabbit forum.”

[LongEaredLions]

Posted By AndHenry on 1/28/2015 11:37 PM

Even though I’m an admin too – I plan to write my thing and add it here for everyone’s approval, and I’d be more than happy for Amanda to then post it.
I don’t doubt for a second that ‘Jess’ is being sincere, but I also think this is a BB thing and we should keep it that way. We ‘I’ take a lot of comfort that we know each other – no offense is taken when corrections need to be made, we have a personal understanding along with respect and appreciation for us as individuals (I adore how we are all so different and yet we have come together over our love for bunny’s! And even better, we all like/love each other!!!).
OH! And most importantly – TRUST!!! I honestly and genuinely trust you guys to the moon and back!

I love that Jess wants to help, especially being a QLDer – but I agree, submit what you want to add for it to be checked over and let Amanda submit it. A good example is – I’m not good with facts, so I want to write about what I know personally with Henry and what I have learned since having him. And I expect that any mistake I make will be picked up on and corrected, especially by LBJ knowing her stuff with her education about the wild rabbits here and our eco system (did I get that right LBJ??? Lol!).

And YES!!! IF Jess owns a bunny, we don’t want to jeopardize her – that would be just awful!

Agreed-maybe it’s selfish of me, but I think this is our thing, we all know/trust each other.

[LongEaredLions]

Ok, so I have been messing with it a bit-
To hide your friends, click friends on the main page, scroll down to friends, and hit the little pencil, edit privacy. Then set both of the settings to “only me.”
To hide (fake) birthday hit about, contact and basic info, then click on your birthdate and set it to “only me” and your birthyear to “only me.”
Once you are done, go to the main page, hit view activity log, view as, then public, and it will show you what it looks like to the public. You could also change it to a specific person.

[LBJ10]

Yes LEL, you can change just about everything to “only me”.

[LBJ10]

LOL AH, I don’t know about that. I mean, we just went over the whole Australia/invasive species thing in school. But yeah, you can run stuff by me if you aren’t sure.

[LongEaredLions]

Yer LBJ, and anything we run by you we can say “an animal care specialist confirms…” Right? You have OWLS!

[LBJ10]

I don’t have owls. LOL! I took care of owls and other birds of prey. Hardly makes me an expert, but I do fine anything animal rather fascinating.

[Deleted User]

Hey Amanda, thank you so much – I did all that! I had no idea (good thing I asked you), I thought I had everything private – obviously not! Told you I wasn’t facebook clever! All done now, but double check for me, ha ha ha! And can you remove the pic now, I’m not worried about BBer’s, but stranger’s just jumping on for a sticky beak and seeing my friend/family names. I only use my facebook for my daughter travelling and Roberta (serious, she is SO funny (serious – sorry Roberta!) and my son, etc., trying to keep up). Otherwise I only use RAPT.

I also read through what I wrote above and decided it was silly (sorry everyone), I need to be more factual and serious. So I removed it and will try and write something better about what I was trying to say. I may not be good at writing, but I’m giving it a go. It may take a few attempts, but as soon as I’m on a good thing, let me know – and I’ll try to write along those lines…..

[LongEaredLions]

I will go check. Honestly, I know nothing about Facebook either, but a bit of poking around does usually yield.
Remove what photo? I am confused… Lol!
I really liked what you had written before. I bet what you come up with will be great.

[Deleted User]

The facebook image. Showing the names…..
And my next attempt to write, maybe I’ll just send it to you to see if it’s any good??? In my head it is good, but sadly, it stops there……

[LongEaredLions]

Op, yep, sorry about that! I didn’t want to put that there but I thought you needed to see? SORRY!
Yep, you can just send it to my BBmail.

[Deleted User]

I will Amanda – thank you! I really want to contribute, but I am struggling to put what I want to say in a format that is acceptable – bugga!
But, I am determined to keep trying till I get it right…..

[MoxieMeadows]

AH— I didn’t think those posts were THAT silly. I personally found them enjoyable/interesting to read.

[Deleted User]

Really Moxie??? That’s sort of what I wanted….. to share a story based on my real life with Henry, and what you should and shouldn’t do – make it sort of fun learning as to being told. And then hopefully people would come back to read more. If only I could write well, like people who write books. I’m a bugga for reading a book and not being able to put it down…. ha ha ha!
I wish I could write it and then give it to someone to write it properly……… anyone interested??? ha ha ha ha!

I think my biggest issue is… when I got Henry, I couldn’t find the correct information I needed without it being technical! I would have loved to have read someone’s journey and without knowing it, learn all the rights and wrong’s while reading a story. Honestly, if it wasn’t for finally finding BB, half a world away and my persistence to raise Henry right, who’d know where we would be?
I know a LOT of Queenslander’s own bunny’s – I reckon 90% of those are not cared for properly out of ignorance (not being able to find info) and fear of asking for being caught. And not knowing they can get vet care – they just need to know the right vet. I am desperate to share this info with every QLDer! Oh and a biggy – you can buy bunny food (pellets and hay), not seeded, fruit crap stuff – I want every QLDer to know what their bunny needs to eat and where and how to buy it in Queensland. AND don’t do the outside hutch thing – it’s so not necessary!!! And on and on I go, ha ha ha!

See my dilemma trying to put that all in to words….. HELP! Lol!
But it’s important to me that I don’t come across as being stupid – that helps no one if they don’t take it seriously.

Thanks again Moxie – that meant a lot to me!

[LongEaredLions]

I actually liked it too. It was more genuine, personable and relatable; and I think that is important from an inside view. Plus, I think the tone/way you talk might be more understandable/interesting to fellow Aussies?

[Deleted User]

Let me try again….. If I can’t get it right, maybe someone can help me….

manic!!! She writes! I know she gets busy, but I’ll ask if I can forward my stuff onto her to rewrite…… brilliant! Why didn’t I think of that before?
I’ll PM her to see how she is going – I’ve been wondering how Bonnie, Clyde and BUMPY (my boy) along with Bandit and Outlaw are going. If she is up for it, I know it shouldn’t be a problem. I’ll lets you’s know.

[MoxieMeadows]

Okay great AH.

(I was actually kinda shocked when you erased them. I was like: Huh? What?)

[manic_muncher]

Hi guys. Sorry I’ve not been around lately. I have been getting updates from this thread, so I sorta have been keeping myself in the loop so I wasn’t totally lost. I have seen the facebook postings as they come in. I have not, however, looked on the blogspot at all.

Andi. Don’t be silly! I thought what you wrote was perfect. I don’t know where it sat in comparison with the other posts, but I liked how it was different than the informational/technical ones. I think that personal touch is really important, and if we actually get some avid readers, I am sure they will be coming back for more Henry stories just like we all do here!

As for me… blah.. everytime I saw a run of posts in my email from here, the guilt just pressed on me even harder. I wish I could say I was just busy, but it’s just a bit complicated right now. My best friend lost her husband last week, just after moving halfway across the country with him, and that has added to the stress. You guys are doing great and I hope to pull my weight soon. Bonnie and Clyde, Bumpy, Outlaw and Bandit are all still alive, though Bumpy gave me another scare a few days ago. I will be back soon I hope. Love you all.

Keep on writing, Andi!

[MoxieMeadows]

My condolences to your friend.

Glad you’re all doing OK otherwise though Manic. Can’t wait until you can start coming on the forums regularly again!

[LongEaredLions]

We can’t wait to have you back Manic, but we also know that regular life goes first. Take care of yourself, and sending my condolences and love to your friend.

[MoxieMeadows]

Does anybody have anything to add/edit about the post for rabbit breeds? I’d love some input about it! And hopefully soon we can post it on the blog!

[MoxieMeadows]

This thread doesn’t show up as it is pinned anymore for me. Did I miss something? I had to go through LEL’s created topics to find this again. I don’t know if it’s because it’s been like 2 months since anybody has posted? Maybe not… I have no clue…
Just thought I’d post here to get it back up on the list and get the ball rolling again lol.

[Cottontail]

I’ve actually seen quite a few pages on FB about the rabbits in Queensland.
“Legalize Pet Rabbits in Queensland” posted this a week ago;
“Hi Everyone. Just keeping you updated in regards to the petition that closed in January. We still haven’t had a response yet. Due to the recent changes in the QLD government the new members will sit and vote in April. As soon as we know- we will let you know. For the moment, it’s just a waiting game. We have written numerous letters to newspapers and TV shows and we do continue to fight. But for the moment our hands are tied until we get a response! Thank you for your patience and ongoing support. If you have any suggestions On what else we can do, please feel free to contact us!”

Has anyone heard anything about what the local lawmakers are thinking so far?

[Deleted User]

Sorry guys – it’s not going to pass. I don’t even believe for one second it is even being presented in Parliament.

I hate to be a Debbie Downer about this, but I am sorry to tell you, it’s not going to be considered. QLD is going to remain the only State in the whole wide world that bunny’s will still be illegal. I knew this ages ago before the election in January. Nothing is going to change even with Labour being in power now.

[MoxieMeadows]

Are you sure AH there’s nothing we can do? I’m sure there is some way we could get this publicized. If this becomes a very popular topic we might be able to pull something off.
But we don’t need to just educate people from QLD, we should try and educate everybody. Get our YouTube channel going and post videos, commercials ect. Facebook ect.

There must be *something* we can do. Don’t lose faith yet! <3

[Deleted User]

Sorry Moxie, but no. Regardless of what anyone does, nothing is going to change the law in QLD.
I know we could continue to educate people, but if anyone does a search they are going to see Legalise Pet Rabbits (who I have been in contact with) or BB. I personally would like to see ‘every’ bunny owner come into contact with BB – we have a wealth of genuine information, along with guidance when required 24/7! I am not aware of any other bunny site that offers what BB does.
I am in no way discrediting LPR, but it doesn’t compare to us – we are it! And we all should be patted on the back for it.
I found you guys! And I still can not believe I am the ONLY Queenslander on this forum – I am still astounded! if not mortified.
I am sick knowing that rabbits (bunny’s as I like to call them) are being kept in backyard hutches with no room to run or binky, being fed ‘crap’ and with NO vet care – if this is the case, I’d rather QLDer’s didn’t own them at all. I look at my Henry all the time and wonder how many hundreds don’t get to experience ‘life’ because everyone is too scared to ask or are too ignorant or DUMB to find you guys on BB to offer their bunny a better quality of life.
I can’t change it and I’m sick of being sick over it.
Yep, keep the fine in place – $44,000 and let every stupid person get dobbed in – they probably shouldn’t own a bunny in the first place. My Henry is a well kept secret cause we care – about him!
Some of the sad stories I have heard – bull$*&!!
Sorry for sounding so harsh, but it’s the truth and I’m over it. I wasted so much time making the effort (signing petitions with friends names and addresses), contacting vets and pet shops, and stupidly making financial donations believing we could make a change – you have no idea how disheartened I was when I found out we were fighting a loosing battle that they all knew about a long time ago.

This is ‘MY’ honest opinion. If anyone would like to stick their 2 cents in, go for it. I have no issue with anyone who thinks differently or can suggest that I am wrong in any way. Cheers.

[JackRabbit]

AH — how do you know it won’t be presented and voted on?

[Deleted User]

Because 98% of QLDer’s still see rabbits as pests. I am telling you now, no member of Parliament will take this in to be voted on – he/she will get laughed out of Cabinet. It is that strongly opposed here.
The State Government is still funding the BROKEN ‘rabbit proof fence’ – yes, you can laugh….. now!

[JackRabbit]

It just amazes me that so many people could be that stupid to think they are so much different from the rest of the world. If they don’t want a pet bunny themselves, that’s perfectly Ok, we all know that bunnies are definitely not for everyone. But why ruin it for the ones who want or have them and care for them properly? I just don’t get it.

[Deleted User]

Either do I JR….. honestly, I don’t know whether to be cranky/frustrated over their dumbness OR their ignorance?

How can all of the World and the rest of Australia be so wrong???

I just decided – it’s both! dumbness AND ignorance!

[JackRabbit]

I hate when a government doesn’t trust the people to make certain decisions for themselves — deciding what kind of pet to have when that pet is gine with the rest of the world is just plain crossing the line. I feel for you AH. Having and loving a properly cared for neutered house bunny is not something anyone should have to hide and not something any government should spend its time concerning itself with. It will never cease to amaze me what elected officials can stick their noses in.

[Deleted User]

Henry is one very lucky bunny – thanks to you guys on BB! I honestly think he is luckier being with us than anywhere else where he would be legal because he gets treated as a valued family member, not just a pet rabbit. He has access to the best food, vet care, along with the freedom to be the bunny he is.
And after 2 years, we are so used to not talking about him, the threat of being caught out is minimal. We still don’t use the word bunny in our house – it’s always Henry!

I don’t and won’t ever get why we can’t own bunny’s when we are prepared to pay to have them registered (making local council money) and adhere to the laws/rules like any other pet. But I am lucky – not only do I now know how to look after Henry properly, Henry is also a client with an exotic vet that I trust completely.

But it doesn’t stop me from feeling sorry for all those other bunny’s living in QLD with owner’s who don’t know any better cause they are too ‘afraid’ to ask!
I really wish everyone would find you guys and become BB member’s – how wonderful would that be…… I wouldn’t have to worry anymore!

[Hazel]

The government should never be able to tell ADULTS how to live their lives as long as they aren’t harming anyone else with their choices. I can only imagine how much better of a place this world would be if people and especially elected officials would learn to stay out of other people’s private business.

In this case, their point is mute anyways, considering that they aren’t even able to keep the fence intact.

[Deleted User]

Oh Hazel! That fence is a joke – do you know, for the longest time I thought it was just that, a joke! Maybe even a myth???
NOPE! It’s real – how shameful! They should be embarrassed….. all that money, and for what? To give us all a good laugh? Yep, money well spent!

[JackRabbit]

I completely second what Hazel said.

[Little Lion Head]

I wonder if maybe there are more QLDer’s on BB but they are just scared to say they are from QLD?

This whole thing still just baffles me!

[Hazel]

Anytime a government declares war on “something”, be it terror, drugs, or, well, bunny rabbits, money plays a big part. “We’re not getting the results we want, YET, we need more money and resources.” The lawmakers in QLD aren’t that dumb, they know what the reality is, they know that these laws make no sense. But they don’t care, because the fact of the matter is, this fence is a cash cow for many people. Collecting $44,000 in fees each time doesn’t hurt either. It’s not about the rabbits anymore, that’s just how it started out.

So yes, they should be embarrassed.

[MoxieMeadows]

It is shameful really. And how many people do you think own rabbits anyway? Probably a lot. And these are probably all UNfixed rabbits not being taken care of. So how bad would REGISTERED and FIXED rabbits hurt the community?! They wouldn’t!
I agree with Hazel, it started out about rabbits, but it’s all about the money now. :^/

[willowjinxy]

Hi Everyone – sorry I haven’t been on here for a while. I just wanted to let you all know that I haven’t given up on this fight and have started a new petition (link is below) that everyone can sign. We have had so many people contacting our Facebook page (Legalise pet rabbits in Qld) this past year that have had been dobbed in for keeping a pet rabbit and asking for advice on what to do. I have changed the wording on the petition from legalise pet rabbits to allow Queenslander to apply for a permit to keep a desexed pet rabbit.

https://www.change.org/p/qld-department-of-primary-industries-qld-premier-allow-queenslanders-to-apply-for-a-permit-to-keep-a-desexed-domestic-pet-rabbit?recruiter=55874473&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

[Deleted User]

Hey willow!!! Super cool to see your post on BB – I have to admit, I have shamefully been absent too, why I only saw your post now.

My question to you is – how do QLDer’s get dobbed in? BIG mouths??? I’m serious – I don’t understand? Unless YOU ‘tell’ someone, who would know?
And what do you tell QLDer’s that contact you after being dobbed in? Has anyone ever received the fine – $44,000??? What happens to the bunny?

I have signed every petition, made a donation or two and I hate to admit this, but I’m over it – bored with it! I actually don’t care anymore, it is a losing battle in QLD the ONLY State in the whole wide World that pet bunny’s are illegal. The solution??? DON’T TELL ANYONE you don’t TRUST with you bunny’s life! Simple!

AND please don’t tell me QLD owner’s keep their bunny’s outside and a neighbour dob’s them in??? What do you expect?
Our weather doesn’t allow for bunny’s outdoors, and why have a bunny that you can only VISIT outside?

Okay…. I’m gonna leave this alone, but I will end with ‘I don’t get it’??? It’s not that hard to own a bunny in QLD ‘if’ your doing it for the right reasons and are committed. AND keep your mouth SHUT!!! It really isn’t that hard…

Edit to ADD – You know what mortifies me??? Everyone is scared to get vet care – NOT every vet is an arse in QLD! Make a phone call or 3 and you’ll find one that will offer vet care – PLEASE do NOT let your bunny SUFFER. My vet doesn’t give a $*&! – he only cares about the well being of our pet. He INSISTED on Henry having his shots….  and one of his staff gave Henry their lunch salad when he was neutered. In QLD!

[jerseygirl]

Did you happen to see this last week Andi?
http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/news/illegal-bunny-seized-by-police-to-learn-its-fate/news-story/67dc64a4e1ec998a2ccbabfd8a443cbd

[Deleted User]

I didn’t see the latest one that you just posted about the Townsville bunny but I know ALL about the Logan bunny! What idiot keeps a HUGE bunny in a cage and in a caravan??? NOT saying a word!!! And this bull$*&! that it’s Easter so it got saved??? So…if you get caught in August – bad luck?

And your an idioit if you behave badly to have the police come to your home with an illegal pet! Maybe you shouldn’t own a pet if your going to behave in a way that attracts the attention of the law???

Most, if not all the FL’s know me, and I like to have a bit of fun and I can be a bit cheeky… but I would never ever put Henry in a position to attract the attention of the law – I don’t indulge in anything illegal (except my really BAD singing – sorry guys! Lol!).  To have your house raided is just as bad if not worse than telling everyone you own a bunny – DICK’S!

If your that stupid – best you don’t own a precious bunny!

[Deleted User]

OH!!! I have to add… the RSPCA sells bunny food and offers advice on bunny care – go figure! LOL!

This QLD bunny thing is a joke! You CAN buy the right food, you CAN get vet care…. just DON’T tell anyone! It’s not that hard….
And PLEASE keep your bunny indoors – they are the bestest INdoor pet ever!!! Promise!

[LongEaredLions]

And always make sure you have a super great friend (like ME!) that would steal your bunny at first notice in case the popo comes to call!

[Azerane]

QLD’s law certainly is outdated. That being said, I don’t agree with people who keep pet rabbits in QLD with the law in place. For me it wouldn’t be worth the risk of losing your pet, the chance of them being put down etc. All it takes is one friend of a friend, or maintenance person or word of mouth to go to the wrong person and that’s it. I honestly feel it’s not fair to the rabbit if that happens. Then what it you live in an area where you can’t find a vet that’s willing to work with you, regular hours and for emergency care. It’s about the welfare of the rabbit, not sticking it to the law.

I’m not agreeing with the law, I don’t see any reason it shouldn’t be abolished. If making that happen means mandatory desexing and registration, then I think that’s great. We all know that desexed rabbits make better pets anyway Currently, people are just at the risk of animal welfare issues because they may not be able to seek vet care etc.

[Deleted User]

I sincerely respect your opinion Azerane, but the concerns you have raised in your post are NON existent if your NOT stupid! To begin with, when I first signed up to be a BBer, I spoke with a FL (remember MD??? He he he he….) and then with Mrs (or Mr?) BB for confirmation that my details could never be disclosed to our authorities if they ever happen to come upon me on this site. I learned how to not only be a good bunny mum thanks to BB, but a wonderful bunny mum.
I have also learned my rights – if someone ‘dobs’ me in, I can refuse entry for 24 hours AND I don’t live an unlawful lifestyle to attract the attention of the police for them to enter my home without notice – hell, I have never had a music compliant (HUH? LOL!!!) let alone a speeding fine – ever!
I can genuinely STATE that I have never had a concern owning my Henry in QLD – I am that clever (really! Ha ha!). The secret??? DON’T tell anyone! My bunny friends are BBer’s! If you can’t trust a BBer, you can’t trust anyone. And thanks to my awesome friends I have Plan B, C and D in place – I know Jersey would take my Henry for a holiday, let alone a few others… and I know he’d happily holiday with quite a few friends overseas – yes Amanda, LOL – you get first dib’s! Ha ha ha….

This is MY home and no one enters without my consent – and I really do, I trust MY friends with not only Henry’s life, but MINE! None of them would ever dob me in and he’s not up for discussion – so no friends of friends knowing my business. It also helps that no one knows my real name (except those few that I TRUST) let alone my address…. it really isn’t that hard if your clever about it and keep your mouth shut!

And I don’t agree about the vet care… I’d say about 7 vets out of 10 carry bunny food (hay, pellets and CC) in my area alone. How do I know this? I went onto Oxbow’s site when my local ran out of pellets and I was trying to find a bag till they got more in. EASY! No one raised an eyebrow. I also order from down south (VIC) and EVERYTHING is posted to me in a brown box so not even the delivery man can see that I ordered bunny food. AND I had Henry neutered in QLD!

Honestly – be CLEVER about it!!! And don’t tell ANYONE!

BUTTTTTT!!!!! If your lazy, only owning a bunny for a bit of fun and don’t really give a $*&! – you deserve to be caught and the bunny taken away and MOVED on! My Henry is part of our family and everyone who knows us knows this – DON’T touch MY bunny! Lol! SERIOUS!

[Azerane]

That’s fair enough I think it’s great that you’ve managed to get so involved with a network of bunny lovers and have all those plans in place. The trouble is that so many people probably don’t and aren’t as careful so ultimately it just ends up badly for the bunny. That being said, anyone who doesn’t have those plans in place can’t possibly care as much about bunnies as we do, otherwise they would have plans

[Deleted User]

As I said in my previous post Azerane, some people don’t deserve to own a bunny – I am mortified and saddened by some of the stuff I hear/read about. But to ‘dob’ someone in out of spite… SHAME on them ‘if’ the bunny has a good home and is cared for properly.

I’m SO into dobbing if the bunny is being neglected or mistreated…. but to do a dibby dob out of spite? That is so NOT cool!

So I stand by – DON’T tell anyone…. if they don’t know you have a bunny, how can they dob you in?

AND I DID!!! I found a SAFE place to talk about Henry and made the BEST bunny friends!

PS – Someone (not a BB friend – a one post ) ages ago suggested on this thread (I think) that I could be found through my IP address – HUH? That’s when I got my Plan B, C and D into place. Nothing ever came from it – I think she/he was just trying to scare me – WHY??? See what I mean by GOOD friends…. Shame on NASTY people!

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