Does your SO not get it when it comes to animals?

[Stickerbunny]

I am into animals being treated fairly and I try to not have anything to do with people who abuse, neglect or otherwise cause suffering to animals. My boyfriend loves animals… but he has a more casual attitude. He always considered pets things that live in the house that you feed and water and that is about it. Taking them to the vet for checkups, researching their health and diets, treating them like little royalty he took a while to get adjusted to and he is still hopeless when it comes to proper care of our pets (I would never trust him to care for them for more than a few days). I do all the feeding, litter changing, grooming etc and he pretty much just hands out treats and gives pets.

With that attitude we often clash on animal rights things. But he really annoyed me the other day. I posted when the  pharmacy owner told us quite proud/happily about his abuse of his rabbits and how he bred them “for fun” in a tiny outside hutch and when it got too hot they all died in the hot sun because he didn’t care about protecting them from the weather. I was there for something to help TREAT my PET rabbit and the boyfriend told him what we needed it for and that is the story he decided would be perfect to tell us.

Well, boyfriend goes there for nicotine gum and he stopped by there a few days ago to pick up more. I told him he could get it cheaper online and we should start ordering it that way. He replied that it was more convienent to go to the local pharmacy… so I said I didn’t want to support someone who blatantly abuses animals and seems so proud of doing it. His reply was “well, how am I supposed to know that bothers you? I made him stop his story and I thought that was that, I didn’t think of it again.”  Really? After 5 1/2 years living with me he can’t figure out supporting an animal abusers business and talking/joking with him would bother me. Do men even pay attention ? lol

So does your SO get it when it comes to animals, or is he/she totally clueless like mine? 

 

[MimzMum]

I think I’ be boycotting the pharmacy AND the bf, personally.
My hubby totally gets my love of animals and their protection, but he gets upset when I become distraught over their health concerns. He does worry about our pets, but isn’t comfortable with situations like euthanasia. He will make the odd comment on cost of care but that applies to us as well. I do get cranky with him when he thinks I am going ‘overboard’ with vet visits or supplies,etc.
It’s too bad this pharmacist couldn’t bother to be educated on proper husbandry since he took the time to make a career in medicine. That’s a bit of a contradiction.
Poor bunnies.

[Stickerbunny]

I don’t know anyone personally who shares my passion for animals, so I have learned to be very tolerant of people who don’t understand. The boyfriend got the annoyed look and me not talking to him for the rest of the ride home, but he agreed to shop elsewhere. He accepts anything I say as wrong in the treatment of animals, it’s just annoying that he can’t understand for himself or even think of it for himself. Yesterday he read a news story that involved animals being genetically modified and released back into the wild and he was like “bad? good? you’re the moral compass on animals”. o.O

He never skimps on their care though, he accepts whatever I say they need – he even drove 8 hours straight to go out of state to a breeder for birds because the rescue wasn’t an option for us and I refused to use a bad breeder and the nearest one was 4 hours one way. And he worked a lot of OT for vet bills for Stickers since she wasn’t an expected adoption. But he just doesn’t naturally understand, it’s so hard for him to even try to wrap his head around it.

[Monkeybun]

My hubby totally understands me and my animals.. I’m getting him to be the same way When he dropped Squirrel off for his neuter this morning, there was a little girl and her dad there dropping off their bun for a neuter too, and he got into a conversation with them about bunny care

[lwayne]

Boys are clueless about everything. I do all the bunny work too, that was our agreement.

In all seriousness, next time I go on a trip I need to hire a sitter for my bunnies AND my S.O.

[bunnyfriend]

Uggggg guys are just ignorant sometimes. My bf loves animals and doesn’t like animal abuse… yet he’s told me about how his dogs loves popcorn and so he and his family give popcorn to their dogs (really not safe). One time he wanted to feed Wilbur a pop tart!!!!! ): And then today we were at lunch he told me a story about one of his dogs and was like “You know how you’re supposed to pick up dogs by their necks?” Then I had to explain to him how actually it’s not good for them and painful. It really bugs me sometimes how he’s one of the people who cares about animals but really doesn’t know anything about them and so therefore doesn’t always take care of them properly. At least with him I can *lovingly* correct him on this stuff without being snotty.

[Stickerbunny]

Haha lwayne, me too. For all the “whats our zip code?” and “where are my keys?” … and to remind him to take drinks out of the freezer before they explode. lol I can’t imagine what the house would look like if I left for a trip when I got back. Scary thought!

I think the big problem is they learn from their parents (and it’s not just guys with it) how to treat animals and they go with what they learned and never care to correct that way of thinking. Which I don’t get, if you truly care about your pet, why not learn how to care for it properly? And I have to get onto my boyfriend about food too – he tried to feed our bird avocado (toxic) and the other week Stickers stopped eating her breakfast salad, so I mentioned it to him and he’s like “I gave her 3-4 carrots, some broccoli and a handful of pellets this morning before work” … turns out he’d been giving her all that junk for a few days straight, he got in trouble for giving her too much stuff that would put weight on her and upset her tummy. :s

You guys with SOs that you mesh with are lucky  it can be a trial lol

[lwayne]

Posted By Stickerbunny on 09/06/2011 05:59 PM

Haha lwayne, me too. For all the “whats our zip code?” and “where are my keys?” … and to remind him to take drinks out of the freezer before they explode. lol I can’t imagine what the house would look like if I left for a trip when I got back. Scary thought!

I think the big problem is they learn from their parents (and it’s not just guys with it) how to treat animals and they go with what they learned and never care to correct that way of thinking. Which I don’t get, if you truly care about your pet, why not learn how to care for it properly? And I have to get onto my boyfriend about food too – he tried to feed our bird avocado (toxic) and the other week Stickers stopped eating her breakfast salad, so I mentioned it to him and he’s like “I gave her 3-4 carrots, some broccoli and a handful of pellets this morning before work” … turns out he’d been giving her all that junk for a few days straight, he got in trouble for giving her too much stuff that would put weight on her and upset her tummy. :s

HAHAHA Stickerbunny, I think we are in the same boat!  That all sounds way too familiar.  My SO never knows where anything is, totally disorganized (and he works from home!).  And yes, our house is always a complete disaster when I come home from more than a few days being gone (and even just from work ).  It sounds like your SO also had a mommy that was way to nice in picking up after him and such!  Also true: my SO over does it on the treats/salad/pellets… trying to be the favorite.  

[kamdynandsunshinesmom]

Well I can say i don’t have an SO but my sister totally doesn’t get me. She thinks everything I do with my animals are stupid. She constantly is making fun of me and when were out in public she has to tell everyone and everybody that I am a crazy rabbit lady and how ridiculous I am. It has changed my views on my sister. I support my sister in everything that she does I don’t know why she can’t support in everything I do. I might be nuts. I talk to my rabbits like they are human. I love them to death more then I love some of my human family. My mom does get me and loves my rabbits and understands me but sometimes when she’s around my sister she could agree with my sister. It just aggreviates me and I don’t say anything and walk away.

[peppypoo]

Luckily, my boyfriend totally understands the way I feel about my bunnies. Since I’ve moved to a new city for school, the bunnies are now living with him (something we decided from the beginning) and I would not hesitate a moment to take them away if I had the tiniest bit of doubt that he did not love/care for them just as much as I do. But luckily, I know he treasures them equally, so they’re in good hands.  I like to make fun of him though, and mention how weird it must seem to other people since he’s a guy living alone with two bunnies .

[Joyfull_music]

I am very lucky in that department. My husband and I are both animal lovers and very passionate about them and their care. All of our animals are important, including the reptiles. We strictly believe that when you bring an innocent life into your house, then it becomes a part of you and your family. You do not put a price tag on it, or let it suffer. EVER. We have five cats because he is the cat whisperer and has a natural gift for rescuing them. But unlike the crazy animal people you see on tv, ours are all fixed, vaccinated, very well fed and have a vet. Our youngest two cats even wear collars with an ID tag just in case.

[Tate]

I actually think I can top everyone here… When Velvateen broke his leg, my [now ex] boyfriend wanted him put down because “we have only had him for a few days and we can just get another one”. Haha, kicked his @ss out after that….

[LoveChaCha]

John stays quiet He loves animals as well, but I’m the more crazier with animals – especially rabbits.

When I was at his house one time, his sister was over and I was talking about my rabbit. She told me that she had rabbits as a child and was shocked that my bunny was spayed. I said it is important and that she siad “it is just a rabbit..”

OH HELL NAW!

[Lis]

 HJ (my fiance) TOTALLY gets it when it comes to companion animals. He didn’t so much when we first met (he was terrified of dogs initially because he was attacked as a kid and had never had a pet), but with intros to my bunnies and dog, he’s become an animal lover and advocate of adoption. He was the one who got Link “for me” – and then fell in complete love and wouldn’t give him to me like he intended. He did the search for a new rabbit with me when we went to adopt Navi after I lost Stormy. He’s been right there behind me when I had to defend spending so much money on Link’s care before he died and approved of all my medical decisions every step of the way. 

HOWEVER, I’m an animal rights activist and vegan. He is not. While he’s awesome and supports me when I decide to do things like protesting the dolphin slaughter like I did last week (I may or may not have gotten my picture in Saudi and Japanese news AND on the peta2 and PETA blogs). he does not participate in AR at all. He’s still an omnivore and doesn’t believe factory farmed animals should have rights. So we differ there.

[LittlePuffyTail]

I’m very lucky as well. Ricky is very supportive of me and my animals as well as my views on animal rights. He likes animals, he’s mostly a cat guy, but he’s not animal nuts like I am. But we sometimes go without and are broke at times because of all the animals (3 cats, 3 bunnies and a horse) but he knows that they are part of the family and he’s fine with that. He never puts up a fuss when I say one of the buns needs to go to the vet, even if we really can’t afford it.

I’m a vegetarian, he’s not, and he accepts, without complaint, that I will not cook meat. He buys sandwich meat and stuff but I do the cooking so if he wants to eat my meals, it’s tofu and falafel. He was also okay with me deciding that no products that have been tested on animals are allowed in this house. We buy only cruelty-free even though it’s often more expensive and he had to give up some of his usual brands. I just had to remind him that bunnies just like Stormy suffer for years to make those products and if you buy them, you are financially supporting that torture.

He’s a big-hearted guy and I think I’m very lucky. I just look at my sister’s husband who thinks that pets are “disposable’ and loves hunting and can’t understand how Ricky puts up with me and my vegetarianism and all my animals.

 

Lis, pm me a link! I want to see those pics.

[lwayne]

 Woohoo to the Vegetarians and vegans out there!!  I’m also vegan and SO is vegetarian.  That’s reason #45920392 why I think bunnies are awesome pets!  They’re vegan!!  

[Stickerbunny]

I’m vegetarian as well and boyfriend eats meat – the weird thing is he thinks animals feel all the emotions we do, knows they are scared to die as they go to slaughter, agrees we are very cruel to them and thinks all animals deserve respect as living creatures… but he eats meat. My mother is the same way – she gets FURIOUS whenever she hears about animal abuse, we used to all stop and pet the cows that lived by us and she’d be so sad that they had to be killed for food, we had a pet pig that we all loved when I was a kid … but she eats meat.

I am into animal rights as well and trying to get my body adjusted to vegan (which is difficult, since there are NO alternatives at our store for cheese and ice cream), but boyfriend isn’t very supportive of it. We have fights over AR all the time, because he is for animal research, he was fine with Michael Vick getting such a low sentence (he thought the money was more than enough to make up for the torture and killing of animals), he isn’t bothered by factory farming because he just puts it out of his mind, etc etc. Usually we come to a compromise of things he doesn’t want to stop doing that I have an AR concern about he donates money to the cause that is fighting it. It’s kind of an uphill battle in my life staying for animals, since I know NO ONE in real life that shares my passions, I have only met one vegan and I didn’t really get along with her (she started dumb rumors at school for no reason whatsoever, I was just in the same class with her and barely knew her).

LPT, lucky I get constant complaints about my meals, I asked him what vegetarian foods I make that he actually likes and he said “mac & cheese” … so he usually buys his food out and I cook in. lol

Tate, I would have kicked him out too! Anyone suggests hurting my pets like that and they don’t get spoken to again. Geeeez. :s

lwayne, yeah… I don’t go to work, but I always take a day or two off cleaning duty during the week and then it’s a total wreck. I clean up after the pets every day, but it just gets too frustrating to clean up after him 7 days a week. lol He didn’t have parents that picked up after him though, his parents were, well lets just say VERY BAD parents and he was considered a child slave in their house. So he has some resentment issues connected to cleaning / cooking now which are hard to break through to get him to pick things up. :s

[Monkeybun]

I eat meat. Honestly, I am an omnivore and it’s just the food chain at work. It’s how I was built. If I didn’t eat mat, I’d be a very sick person.

That said, I do ensure I buy local, fairly treated meat products. Besides, Monkey would kill me if I ate her food.

[Stickerbunny]

It’s a personal choice, but I just don’t understand how people can get so upset thinking about it and just put it out their mind to still eat it (and buy mass-produced factory farm meat). Seems like denial to me. My mother actually gets MAD that people buy a cow and raise it as a pet before slaughtering it, which in my opinion is better for the animal even if I could never do it myself. She’d rather buy factory farmed, mistreated animal than support a person who could let their kids play with a cow then kill it for food. So weird.

It isn’t so much the eating of meat I don’t get (as I said, personal choice), just that the way they go about it goes against their beliefs but they don’t care to acknowledge it. I always get confused because the boyfriend studies Buddhism and Buddha’s teachings, believes all life is precious and should not be ended for means that aren’t completely neccesarry, animal and human, says me being vegetarian is one reason he likes me and believes humans can live quite healthily on a vegetarian diet – BUT then 10 minutes later orders a steak medium rare and still bleeding. In my head I am always going “What?” o.O 

[Sage Cat]

I could not live with a person who did not understand my feelings about my pets.
Both J (my husband) and I consider them to be part of the family.
J’s latest comment when things are bugging him is “that’s how much time (or money) that could go to the shelter Bunnies!”
He is awesome!

[Tate]

Posted By Stickerbunny on 09/07/2011 08:26 AM
I’m vegetarian as well and boyfriend eats meat – the weird thing is he thinks animals feel all the emotions we do, knows they are scared to die as they go to slaughter, agrees we are very cruel to them and thinks all animals deserve respect as living creatures… but he eats meat. My mother is the same way – she gets FURIOUS whenever she hears about animal abuse, we used to all stop and pet the cows that lived by us and she’d be so sad that they had to be killed for food, we had a pet pig that we all loved when I was a kid … but she eats meat.

I think that’s all you can really ask for though, you know? At least there is awareness… There’s a lot being thrown around in terms of animal abuse and you have to draw some line for yourself. The last time I was vegan (which was years ago), I read something from… PETA? I think… saying that just having “pets” was a horrible thing and that it’s not fair to keep a dog or cat inside or whatever. It was supported further by saying not to support breeders and pet stores. Now that I’m thinking of it, I think it was PETA… that’s a very PETA-ish thing to say.  But anyways, I think it’s difficult to draw that line of “what’s animal abuse”… is it killing an animal? Keeping it in poor conditions? Taking it out of it’s natural habitat (where did dogs come from? cats? rabbits?)? How about if you don’t get the “right” diet… I know so many animal rights activists that feed their animals IAMS, who is one of the worst food companies on the planet, not just because their food is crap, but because of their testing on animals (which I think has been “resolved” for the most part, but in the past they did terrible things). It’s really undefinable… And the same goes for vegetarians vs. vegans IMO… That milk you’re drinking was from a cow that has been pregnant for her entire life and oh by the way… all of the male calves she had went to the slaughter house and became veal… The dairy industry single handedly supports the veal industry. Those babies didn’t get a chance to nurse from their mom and were probably corraled into a truck before a week old or else they were left to die alone.

I can’t fault people at all for continuing to eat meat or meat products. We all have a right to health and meat is a huge part of that. And it’s terrbly discouraging to think of all of these inconsistencies. I know that I’ve grappled with it long enough… 

This ended up being OT, but I love talking about it- I’ve had awesome discussions in my classes about animal welfare although it’s always exclusively about wildlife. I’m vegan and both of my parents just went vegan too… they still have to buy buffalo meat and butter for kitty though. Lololol. I was amazed because my mom grew up eating tons of meat- they were in rural Wisconsin and hunted deer and even once a BEAR! But she said she can’t even look at chicken or beef without thinking of the terrible things they go through! Yay! 

 

 

[Zombie-Sue]

I’m probably pretty casual about animal rights myself. Not that casual. I’d probably tell the pharmacy person off. I have a bit of a short fuse sometimes. But I think that most of the time my boyfriend cares about the animals more than I do. Haha. x)

Sticker, maybe if you gave your SO more control with the rabbits, he’d grown more attached to them? Like, let him groom the rabbits sometimes. Just show him how to set them in his lap and pet them really good to get some of the hair off. It’s hard to screw that up and if he doesn’t do it well enough, you can always go back over the little guy yourself when your SO isn’t around x)

[Stickerbunny]

Oh, I know awareness is all you can ask – I don’t bug them about it, since every individual has to come to their own decisions in morality/ethics. I personally feel guilty every time I eat cheese, or drink milk, which is why I am trying really hard to cut those out of my diet. I just mentally do a double take over the fact the words and actions aren’t the same and they don’t even seem to realize how much of a contradiction it is.

And yeah, PETA said that. But neither of my rabbits, nor my parrot could live in the wild. The homeless ones that are out there now still need homes. I get their point on a lot of things, but some things are just a bit out there for me. And some of the hypocritical stuff irks me as well. I can’t really fully side with any group, because I don’t agree with all the things they say / do but the essence of the mission I can still agree with.

And yes it did get off topic. But, nothing wrong with a little respectful discussion. I am not one of those people that is always yelling “MURDERER” etc to meat eaters, I have no room to talk – we all have animal blood on our hands in one way or another (unless you grow all your own food), how much is purely up to each person to decide and we must all respect each others decisions. If I were to condemn meat eaters, I would be no better than the people who annoy me so badly making fun of me for my choices. To each their own. That is, as long as they aren’t doing something really cruel in which case… I will call the cops and sorry don’t care who you are.

Sue – yeah I wanted to but being in a small town I can’t say anything without getting the boyfriend in trouble at work. All of his bosses know that guy, but I was grinding my teeth and the boyfriend told him not to finish his story and I was probably a bit rude since I didn’t give him any pleasantries, but he didn’t deserve them. He doesn’t keep rabbits anymore thankfully. The boyfriend is attached to them, but more them individually – if anyone hurt them, he’d probably end up in jail for assault, but as a species he isn’t that bothered. He does help me cut their nails, but he’d be hopeless at brushing them, they don’t like it and they don’t sit in laps. lol

[Jessica Rabbit]

My Hubby “gets it” to an extent. He can’t stand to see an animal in a bad situation any more than I can – which is how both of my buns came to live here in the first place. He’s not as fanatical as I am however.

The meat eating…. I’ve been an on and off vegetarian my whole life. My mind really wants to be a veggie-tale, but my body gets so sick when I try it. Instead, I’ve decided to focus on *where* my animal products come from. If a cow lived it’s life in a field eating grass and having cow-buddies, and the only pain it’s felt was the slaughter itself, then my conscience can totally deal with eating that, ya know?

I live in small town rural america. People aren’t accepting of vegetarians, let alone of people who keep “farm animals” as pets, which is apparently exactly what some people think of my rabbits. In just a couple of months, I’ve already lost friends over taking Harvey to the vet. “Why dont we just have rabbit stew?”

They often don’t find it nearly so funny or clever when I ask if we can cook their obnoxious child…

[Jaguara]

Posted By Jessica Rabbit on 09/07/2011 04:01 PM
  “Why dont we just have rabbit stew?”

They often don’t find it nearly so funny or clever when I ask if we can cook their obnoxious child…

LOL for years ever since I had my first rabbit as a child I always got the “lets eat it” treatment. It always upset me, but I really like your come back Jessica, I wish I had the guts to say something like that so some one.

[angie-la]

Paul is by no means some kind of animal hater or degenerate, but he’s not as into taking care of them as I am.

the bunnies have definitely won him over and he plays with them all the time without any persuasion from me haha. I even caught him talking to them the other night. but he finds it funny that I take them for regular vet visits. his family has a little chihuahua mix at their house and she does not eat dog food, she eats whatever they’re eating, I don’t think they’ve ever brought her to a vet, except the most recent visit in which I was the one who took her. I joke around that she looks homeless because she isn’t groomed, and her nails are usually long. but, hey, she’s alive and seems very happy, and his mom carries her around like she’s her baby lol. recently she had some eye trouble, and I bugged Paul about taking her to a vet to get it checked out since it was almost closed shut. He replied that he had work every day, and technically it’s his sister’s dog so it’s her problem, but she obviously wasn’t going to take pixel because she sucks at taking animals [hence his mom being the main caretaker]. so, I made an appointment on my one day off and took pixel to the vet myself. turns out she got something stuck under her eyelid when she ran into the backyard, and the whole thing cost about $100. not bad, considering they did the examination, gave her two ointments, and also trimmed her nails haha. Paul agreed it was definitely affordable, but his sister kind of had a fit about the price . anyway, Paul and his mom were super grateful that I took her because they do love that little homeless furball..

I have left the bunnies in Paul’s care while I was gone and since he’s watched me take care of them he knows what to do, so I could trust him to take care of them. btw, I would have punched the pharmacy dude in the face. I don’t get worked up over jokes like “oh your bunnies look tender” because 1) they’re just jokes [and if they were serious, they would obviously never lay a finger on the buns. mama lee don’t play] and 2) not everyone has the same viewpoints as us, so there’s no point in getting so worked up over something they won’t realize. but bragging about breeding animals for fun?! to someone who CLEARLY loves their pet? bragging about horrific animal abuse in general? ugh. I don’t care if he doesn’t have the same views towards animals as we do, that is just wrong on so many levels.

[Stickerbunny]

The carrying is actually probably a main reason her nails are so long, since she’s not working them down on anything walking. Little dogs often have that problem. But, if she’s being fed, housed and cleaned up after she’s better off than a lot of dogs. My grandmother has some little dogs that I wish she’d take better care of the diet, but they otherwise are cared for – she’s even gone without food to get them medicine because she had enough for groceries or emergency care and she chose the dogs. But their staple food is t-bonez! Glad you took their dog to the vet, poor little girl must have felt much better after getting her eye treated.

I don’t get mad over the dinner jokes, I get it all the time for both my pet types – a parrot and rabbits, people joke I should make chicken and rabbit stew *rollseyes*. I mean if it is someone I don’t like doing it, they’ll usually get a comeback (but that is the same with most things, my uncle asked me jokingly to rub his feet and I smiled sweetly and said if I can use a hacksaw blade… animal abusers don’t talk to me much). And if I could get away with punching him I might have, but I think he noticed my death glare before we left lol I think i’ve been around bunnies too long, when I get really mad and can’t say anything teeth grinding and death glares are noticeable. Hrm.

[Sarita]

Well, my husband gets it with my animals, but they are my responsibility so I take care of them. He doesn’t do anything for them other than pet them…I’m fine with that.

My husband is from a different generation than even me and well, it’s just how it is.

I figure I have to be the big girl and just do what I feel is right for me – I’ll never change him on anything and he’s a good man despite that he’s not perfect like me LOL…I guess it’s call compromise, although I always feel I compromise more….although he may feel differently. I figure it just is what it is and since I can’t change him, I’ll just try changing someone else who might be more open to how I feel about animals.

[angie-la]

I think i’ve been around bunnies too long, when I get really mad and can’t say anything teeth grinding and death glares are noticeable. Hrm.

LOL!! tell me why I was in a meeting today, and I guess someone dropped something on the ground [which was carpeted] and it made a *thump* sound… and my automatic first thought was: bunny stomp. swear to God.

[LoveChaCha]

OMG angie hahah!

I talk to a lot of my customers about rabbits. A small few of my customers that have house rabbits are.. older men. I’ve had 2 men come through my line buying some greens for their rabbit. I usually ask what they are making with certain stuff (makes easy convo!) and I was like “I have a rabbit too!!!”

[Kokaneeandkahlua]

He gets it-me that is. I often feel like it’s a parent child relationship and he’s indulging me lol but I’m happy to run home and show him the pictures of the dogs (yes TWO again last week) I found at lunch and listens to how I finally found the owners, and he accepts that it’s important to me. He does care about our pets, Mikey the most of course, and looks after them if/when I travel for work or by myself. He’s even the guy who has to put his hand in my aquarium because I won’t (ick!) and that’s very kind of him Is he insanely worrying about them, buying them stuff, carting them to the vet etc? Nope…but he humors me

[LittlePuffyTail]

It’s a personal choice, but I just don’t understand how people can get so upset thinking about it and just put it out their mind to still eat it (and buy mass-produced factory farm meat).

This is called “turning a blind eye” which I find extremely aggravating and so many people do it including everyone in my family. Just don’t think about it and it’s okay. Same with animal testing. I feel that if you can’t watch one of those animal rights factory farm videos you have no business eating meat from the grocery store. Linda McCartney said it best “If slaughterhouses had glass walls everyone would be vegetarian”.

[Stickerbunny]

angie, too funny did you look around to see what was upsetting the bun? lol

LPT, true, though if slaughterhouses had glass walls my mother would just stay away from the area. But I understand the saying.

Sarita, my boyfriend is from a different generation as well, 14 years older than me. Might be a big part of the “feed it, pet it” philosophy in pets.

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