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FORUM HOUSE RABBIT Q & A Disaster preparedness

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    • Eepster
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        Our town just sent out an email about disaster preparedness and looking looking for people to join the County Animal Responce Team (CART.)   There were links to all kinds of stuff that seemed helpful, but most of it was rather dog and cat centric.  Here are some of the links  http://www.nj.gov/agriculture/divisions/ah/pdf/petbro.pdf  http://www.ready.gov/caring-animals .

        During Irene and Sandy, we put Porky in his small pet store cage, and had a small bag of pellets and hay ready to go, but that was it.  

        I’m curious, what other have in the way of plans or go bags?


      • Bam
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          I have two carriers ready if there’d be a fire, but that’s pretty much it. We don’t have disasters in Sweden – not yet, at least. Who knows what will happen in the future with climate-changes and so on. Where my mother live they community is building a wall along the sea-side because the water rises higher now during storms than it ever has before and in the last storm, lots of peoples’ basements were flooded.

          But fires are a real risk everywhere, so I think every pet-owner should make an evac-plan for their pets.


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            We had ‘the’ floods here two years ago (my little town wasn’t affected, but all our work places were) – so many human lives lost and I don’t want to think about how many pets – especially when all day/night the news was covering the rescues by helicopter and you could see most people holding onto there pets on rooftops with the water lapping onto their feet. With the chopper rescues – no pets! It was devastating. One smuggled their pet in their shirt and the rescuers didn’t realise till he was on board the chopper. My hubby made it quite clear, he wouldn’t leave our dogs (didn’t have Henry at the time). We even had footage of horses swimming as they were being guided by rescuers in boats to higher ground. So I get the reality of disaster. Henry’s toilet is in his carrier, so it is on hand always. But I think it would depend on the disaster for us to decide how we would deal with it? When the RSPCA (our animal welfare) was threatened to go under – heaps of volunteers just showed up to help move them, the same as the clean up after – people just showed up. Gee Eepster – you’ve got me thinking now…. I’m one of those ‘just grab the kid, dogs and rabbit’ and we’re outa here – not a sensible plan hey…..


          • rayray
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              Don’t worry, AndHenry. That’s my plan too. lol! We don’t get hurricanes here. We do get flooding, but since I live in the city (we have a floodway built around the city) that probably wouldn’t be an issue. Unless it was of biblical proportions. I think the worst disaster that could happen would probably if we lost power during winter.
              Thanks, Eepster! This really reminds me that I need to be better prepared. No one gets a heads up before disaster happens.


            • tanlover14
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                I thought I’d pop in on this thread as I had a situation happen last year to me and my buns. It’s not so much natural disaster but man-made.

                The guy down the hall from us blew up his condo by disconnecting the gas stove from the gas line and letting his place fill with gas until it sparked and blew up. It was the scariest moment of my life and it made me realize JUST how much you have to be prepared. I heard the bang, the fire alarm went off, and I went into the hall to see what was happening and my whole condo filled with smoke and someone was running down the hall yelling “the fire is coming! there’s a big fire!”

                It was the most traumatic experience of my life. My boyfriend and I had a good system for getting the rabbits out if something happened but we had never anticipated that one of us would be gone. He was gone on a business trip. I fumbled with the carriers (they are the plastic ones you put together) and I just couldn’t get them together in time. My whole condo was filled with smoke and there was no way for me to tell how close the fire was since all you could see was pitch black smoke. So I had to make the decision to leave the buns behind and find help. You NEVER ever want to be in that situation. It’s heart breaking and scary. But it’s either you get yourself out and find help or die trying to save your pets. I made the choice to run once and I’ll never forgive myself for leaving them behind. I bawled for a good month afterwards every time I looked at them. I found a fireman who helped me go back up and find them. We got back inside my place when they were able to get the fire contained and all (five at the time) buns were scared and terrified in a corner of the room. Thank god for them being so low to the ground – every one is pretty sure that’s why they survived.

                Moral of the story – you HAVE to be prepared.
                1. Be prepared for being the only one home.
                2. Have carriers READY to go because fumbling to put them together in such a stressful situation is nearly impossible. My rescue actually gave me the best tip ever. They are all fosters (it’s a foster-only rescue) and they all have large numbers of rabbits so they keep pillow cases nearby so they can throw them all into the pillowcases to get them outside in case of an emergency. –
                3. Have food for at least 24 hours prepared (including an extra bag of hay in the car or next to the carrier during emergencies). I made the travel bag with enough pellets for two days and a larger sized bag of the Oxbow is stuck inside the bag and that bag goes into the carrier. So I can take the bag out of the carrier but have it handy so I don’t forget to grab it.
                4. Vet phone numbers stuck in your “emergency bag”. I was fumbling and shaking trying to find numbers for any of our local vets since the rabbits had been exposed to smoke for so long. Your mind literally goes blank in these times so it’s MUCH easier and MUCH more efficient to have the numbers handy.
                5. Have a set destination to take your animals. I literally had NO where to take them as my boyfriend was out of town and for some reason in my brain during all the stress I never thought to call his grandma (his dad was away also and my family is not from around here). Anyways, I basically have this local pet store that watched them in a back room for me for a few hours until my boyfriend could fly back. As everything is unfolding, the last thing you want to have to worry about is finding a safe place for your animals (it was in the winter – March).

                Off the top of my head I can’t think of anything else… I have some litter & an extra litter box ready to go in the emergency bag also, just in case we can’t get to a store. The last thing we were thinking of was store stuff for the bunnies. But anyways, we lost pretty much everything rabbit-related in our condo. Cages, toys, boys, water bottles. Everything soaks up the smoke and can be toxic if you’re not careful. I would definitely put money aside (maybe into the emergency bag) just in case you are unable to get money elsewhere and to be completely prepared. With five rabbits and no where to put them, we had to buy one x-pen ($80) for the bonded quartet and then Nora was still new and not bonded but thank goodness someone from our local rescue brought us a small x-pen for her also. We bought them a few toys and then veggies that night also.

                Not thinking, we gave them the pellets and hay I had grabbed when the firefighter went back inside the condo with me. But then I realized they couldn’t really eat them with all the toxic smoke that had been lingering for so long, so I threw them all away. Even a few toys in the emergency bag would probably be helpful. It’s not things you think of, but we were displaced for two-three weeks, and we obviously couldn’t leave them with nothing to play with or do for that long so we HAD to get them a few toys and gave them some paper towel rolls.

                Sorry for the long post – but thought it may give you all some ideas for your own emergency kits & plans!


              • Bam
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                  Thank you, Tanlover! I remember the gas-explosion you were the victims of last year, that’s why I made sure to have two carriers ready in case of a fire. I’d never thought of it before.

                  AndHenry, that sounds awful. I remember reading about people who refused to leave their dogs. It’s one of the good things about humans, after all, the ability to care so much.

                  Yesterday I read about your flying-foxes-bats falling from the sky, dead from the heat.


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                    Yes TL14 – thank you for sharing. What a terrible (super scary) position you found yourself in! So pleased you had a ‘happy ending’ (no one died). The pillow case…. what a great idea – would never have thought of that?
                    Last week we endured a heatwave (live by the water/sea and we still hit 41 degrees – insane!). We had the A/C on from when we woke up till bed time so Henry and his gang were all ok, but gee Bam I so worried about everyone’s ‘outdoor’ pets, especially when, as you said, we had bats falling dead from the sky. (so sad). All good now – the weather has returned to a pleasant (but still warm) 28 degrees. And lots of baby bats were saved, thanks to the amazing volunteers.


                  • Eepster
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                      The pillow cases sound like a great idea. Very fast and easy to keep on hand ready to go for things where you have no time to get prepared. My fire plan was just to pick him up and trance him and hold him outside if I could grab him. If he was hiding deep in his condo and too hard to grab my plan was to leave a door open and hope he followed.


                    • Stickerbunny
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                        We had a gas leak here last year – I had no idea if the buns would be manageable in an emergency but they hopped into their carrier with little fuss (they can both fit in the one, though it’s a little cramped for long-term) and we took them out into the garage (not connected, so was safe) and used baby gates to make an x-pen setup out there for them. They were so scared of the sudden change they just huddled together on their cat condo the whole time. Grabbed their oxbow (I keep it in the bag and it’s easy to just grab and go) and stuff so it wouldn’t soak up the gas.

                        A good way to get bunnies used to carriers AND have them near at hand is if you have a bunny room, or a very large setup, leave a carrier IN their area as a hidey house. Then, bunnies don’t fear them and it’s right there if you have to get them in fast.

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