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Hello all!
I know that I’ve been very very absent for a long time, and would like to profusely apologise. I’ve missed all my BB friends 🙁
I’ve actually been battling a bad dose of Chronic Fatigue associated with my Fibromyalgia.
So here’s my question. Who else out there has chronic pain? I know that many of you do, we’ve spoken about it before. What are your coping strategies?
Thanks in advance. I know this is very personal but I would love to have some first hand advice on dealing with chronic pain long term!
I used to live with chronic pain, but was super blessed to have found treatment for the main cause. Now I get regular chiropracting done to try to maintain my body and prevent it from getting horribly out of whack. On my days where I am still in a lot of pain, medical marijuana has been a blessing, haha. Rare, but effective.
Oh Cass, I didn’t realise you suffered from this. You are right, there are a few members in the same boat & I’m sure they’ll be able to offer some advice. It’s actually the 3rd time fibromyalgia has come up in a matter of days.
CFS and Fibromyalgia do seem to be linked. My younger sister who I shared a house with for many years was diagnosed with CFS then later we suspected Fibro. It was really difficult to get a proper diagnoses for either. She was dibilitated for about 2 years.
How long have you been living with it?
Medicinal marijuana…I’m guessing that it’s legal there? In Aus, if I wanted some marijuana, I’d have to source it myself 😉
JG, I’ve had it forever, but it’s not usually bad. I saw in the chat post that MimzMum has suspected Fibro, so I guess she’ll be doing the medical run-around for a little while.
I’m sure that there’s a few of us around though. I think it’s about 1% of the population suffers from Fibro or CFS, so that’s actually a pretty high number! I hope your sister is feeling better JG! It’s certainly not a fun thing to have, especially when people don’t understand it and say things like, you’re just lazy or you’re a hypochondriac…that gets me so mad!
I have a hormone imbalance that causes a lot of problems including depression, fatigue and aching in my joints. I have also started to develop some other things more recently such as muscle spasms and what feels to me like nerve pain. It’s worse some days more than others, there doesn’t seem to be much that can be done about it. Then again, I can’t afford to see an endocrinologist all the time since I’m in grad school and I can only see the doctors they have at my school’s health center. I guess I don’t really have any advice for you. Right now, I just sort of deal with it. Nothing special.
Wow, I am sorry to see so many of our members do have chronic pain problems.
My husband has constant pain due to a fractured back and other bone disorders that have caused him to be very uncomfortable for the last 20 years or so. So with the two of us creaking around now, it’s pretty sad, let me tell you.
I don’t look forward to being summarily dismissed by my doc when I go see him Monday and have him pooh-pooh my concerns, but I see this attitude quite a bit with my hubby, who has to see VA doctors and none of them believe he’s hurting because, as they put it, “You look damn good…”
Yeah, well since pain is one of those internal things that doesn’t show except in a grimace or a stumble, that means it’s not a real problem…like mental illness too, right? Bullpuckey.
It’s the old, “it if doesn’t leave a scar, then we guess it isn’t thar” mentality. I am sorry to hear you are dealing with such things, Cassi.
Yeah, there’s no ‘definitive” test for this ailment. That’s the thick and thin of it. Sorry to hear your sis is also suffering, Jerz.
Rachel, chiropractic is beginning to loom closer for me too. I have always thought it was quackery, but my son’s had some work done and we’ve known the guy whose practice it is for some time. Odd, but my boy does seem to feel better for it. I guess I just feel kinda creeped out by someone messing with my spine… like I don’t mess with it enough as it is. lol….
Okay, enough of my complaining. When it comes to how to deal with it, unfortunately for quite some time I went the prescription medication route. I found that I was building a resistance, so I stopped. It was not a pleasant few weeks. Don’t really want to have to go back to that.
My stepmom and my birthdad went a few rounds with doctors when she developed severe back pain from a number of injuries and the doctors she saw also went with treating the symptoms and not the cause. My dad found this infuriating.
For some of us, there is no treating the cause though, and we are stuck with symptomatic relief. (Hubby should have had surgery years ago…now it is too late for such measures.)
I have only barely researched FMS and find that attempts to give the patient better quality of life is the usual route of highly addictive painkillers (that eventually don’t work anymore and leave nasty side effects) or antidepressants, and also there’s the token few who find some herbal remedies that give a bit of relief. I guess it depends on the severity of your pain/fatigue and what you are willing to take to combat it and at least be able to live your life reasonably well. Function may mean you have to give up relief and sometimes relief means you can’t be functional.
Sooo…barring what I’ve already tried…I am thinking of getting into some soft stretching, things like Tai Chi (too old and inflexible for yoga) and my doc wanted me to try acupuncture for my lymphedema, but the idea of someone sticking even tiny pins into me all over is too weird. Can’t even think of it. >.<
I do believe there is a lot to the idea of a general energy about the body that once it is disrupted all sorts of things will cascade wrongly. I am not sure I can wait for the time it will take for any of these remedies to alleviate my discomfort. Having survived cancer, my golden years are not guaranteed me. And I find that the older I get the less tolerable even mild pain begins to become for me. Sleeping is the only time I don’t consciously hurt, and if the pain bleeds through I don’t sleep. I often wake terribly stiff and sore and wishing I could just go back to sleep. If I don’t get moving quickly, no matter how it hurts, the pain will get worse. I don’t want to even get started with the mental and digestive symptoms I have, we’ll be here for hours….
So for now it’s just OTC meds and lots of heating pads/creams and as little irritation of my already hurting body as possible. If I’m lucky, this is not what I have and I’ll find my system working the pain out on it’s own eventually…but I don’t feel optimistic about this point of view.
So, if anyone has any other good ideas, I am all ears! ^_^
MM, wow, and thank you for sharing.
Your advice on medication is very welcome, I have no experience in strong painkillers and I’m extremely wary of the prescriptions that I’ve been given for them.
Tai Chi sounds like a great thing to try. My aunty has polymyositis and does Tai Chi, she was sceptical at first but swears that it helps. I’ve started pilates *I mean I’ve done one class* and I really enjoyed it, but found the stretches were made for people far far more flexible than me!
Accpunture…I have this done every Friday. Yes, the idea of it is gross. I hate needles but I swear it helps. I also get cupping done on my shoulders, and I *love* cupping. It’s like a deep tissue massage without the pain. It leaves crazy bruising sometimes (apparently we FMS ppl bruise easily) but it provides me with serious relief.
I hate the feeling of waking up all stiff and sore! Mornings are always the worst. I find that if I can push myself through the morning, the day gets better. I’m super lucky to have a bf that makes me tea in the morning, this helps so much!
I hope that the drs visit on Monday brings some joy. I hope that he listens and is supportive and that you get good news!
lolz…*blush* I perhaps shared a bit much. Didn’t mean to come off as sounding like such a downer. Apologies.
Easy bruising? Oh dear. Yes, I have this. It’s getting ridiculously constant. I was thinking I had the beginnings of leukemia or something, as I recall that was usually a first sign of this. And that was about as far as I would let my mind go with that one.
And there was another user here, livingonfaith, she said her mum has FMS and that a trip to the grocery store is like a 10 K marathon for her. The more I hear the symptoms from patient to patient, the more familiar it sounds.
lolz…Oh I hate needles too. Yikes. It took me forever to get used to being stuck (I had a portacatheter surgically inserted in my collarbone area so I could avoid IV’s in my arm each week, but it was still creepy!) for my chemo and to this day I dread my quarterly checkups because I hate to deal with getting poked in my hand, the only place left they can draw blood from now. >_< I just cannot get past the idea of acupuncture. Lots of people swear by it, I just can't bring myself to do it. *shudders*
I’ve only recently heard of cupping. I’ll have to look that up. Though I don’t think I like the idea of the bruises much… 0_o
As far as Tai Chi goes, I don’t know if it’s the movements or the music I like better. I can feel wonderful just putting in a CD and sitting quiet for 30 minutes at a time as long as it’s the kind of music you’d listen to during Tai Chi or other martial arts type exercises.
But then of course, one must turn off the CD and get back to work…lol. That takes effort. *nods*
Tea. Mmmm.
I have found that I’m losing my taste for coffee, which apparently does an FMS patient no good. My current favorite is earl grey, hot…just like Captain Picard. ^_^ Double bergamot if I can get it.
Every once in awhile, My husband can lift me just right and pop my back and I find the pain lessens. But this has not worked lately. And the pain has changed…more of a burning kind that goes mostly through my joints. Then the back just seems to reflect it. I do wish our hot springs were closer, I could really go for a long soak! I might have to rent a room there! ^_^ The next house I have must include a jacuzzi!
Thank you for the good wishes for Monday.
All the medical treatments in the world can’t beat having the support of people you know and love to listen and reach out even a virtual hand. I find sometimes having someone to talk to is the best medicine. I always ask for bb vibes before any of us (human or not) goes to the doctor, because these vibes here are the best!
Hope you feel better too! ((((((((((((((((((((((((((Cassi)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Some Chiropractors operate very differently these days to the traditional “back cracking”. I saw one years ago and members of my family still see him as they’ve had good results. Especially Dad, who you wouldn’t pick as someone who’d go to an alternative practitioner. This chiro is quite wholistic in his work. He uses kinesiology to diagnose what might be contributing to your ailment. It could be related to diet, allergy, emotional upset, organ function or skeletal structure. He also uses a tool to deliver pressure to spots on the spine of elsewhere. It’s spring loaded and does not hurt at all. I suppose it is accupressure.
I’ve also heard good things about Osteopathy for chronic type conditions. They use many of the techniques that modern chiropractics and physiotherapy use now.
If I hear of a good one where I live, I think I’d like to give osteo a try. Problem with any treatments is the ongoing appts and cost. I found in the past I’d have to cancel an appt for some reason or another then found it took ages to get back to going.
MM, your mention of that acute pain in the chat thread and digestion here is ringing bells about gall bladder… I don’t know how they go about checking that out. Since your going to the Doc soon maybe….
Heheh, Am I being subtle?
C&C, my sister used to take Astra-forte. Have you heard of that? It’s awful tasting but this and another similar product I’ve seen recommended numerous times. My friend who is super-fit went through a period when she was having low energy and her doctor got her onto a tonic that had the same herb – astragalus.
Edit to add: Something very important. {{{(((Vibes!)))}}}
Chiropracting is incredibly helpful for me… it is surprising how much relief it can bring just to have your body aligned properly. You even notice physical differences… My hips are rotated when I haven’t been adjusted and if I put my arms up over my head, one arm stands taller than the other because my back is out of whack. Acupuncture is also helpful in my opinion.
And about the medical marijuana, I live in california, and you can get a medical “green card” here from certain doctors and get the stuff from dispensaries. The laws about it are really iffy though. And most other states are definitely against it.
I also am pretty against prescription painkillers. The addictive nature, the side effects, how they tear up my stomach, etc. The weed is an effective, natural alternative in my opinion, albeit a bit controversial.
it wouldn’t work well for me though
I get nauseated at the smell of it! lol
Haha Monkeybun.
The laws vary state by state, I believe. I think Washington legalized it for medical purposes. There are places popping up everywhere now.
I have chronic pain in the form of headaches. I used to get a few migraines a month, but gradually worked up to daily headaches and taking excedrin for them. The excedrin got less effective over time and I would still only take one, but it wouldn’t help. Sometimes the headaches would turn into full migraines, but usually they were just duller versions that made it hard for me to focus on anything.
A few months ago I finally went to a neurologist (last time I had been was as a teen and he wasn’t helpful at all). She put me on prozac (apparently SSRIs can be effective for people with chronic migraines) and prescribed physical therapy for my neck as it’s very tight. It’s funny that I’ve never had neck or shoulder pain, but I think the tightness there is definitely contributing to my headaches. I’ve only been doing physical therapy for a couple weeks and it’s already helped so much! Before the prozac was pretty effective, but I still had mild headaches every day. Now I will often get a headache for only a short time and then it will go away on its own, or I won’t have one at all. I’ve definitely learned how important it is to do everything, even if you don’t think it gets to the main cause. I’ll always be prone to headaches, but I’m looking forward to not dealing with them every day.
Hugs to everyone else going through chronic pain! I hope you’re all able to find solutions that help you live with it.
I have tension headaches, anxiety and degenerative disc disease with herniated discs- so it all feels like one big cycle of chronic pain. Mentally it can be so hard to stay in a positive frame of mind- I try to remind myself to live my life and not hide from it- but it does not work all the time and I have days where I just shut down and don’t leave the house. So it is a daily struggle. Since I am no longer working- if I did not go to the barn to see my horse I would probably only leave the house once a week if that. But my horse has been good for my physically and mentally and it gives me the push to get out of the house- and I am happy once I get there- it is just the initial getting out of the house that is hard.
So I keep telling myself- live your life, don’t hide from it on the couch.
I am going to read up on cupping- sounds interesting. I am on prescription pain meds, muscle relaxers, etc. It gets so frustrating with going thru physical therapy, chiro, etc- that all these things really start to add up and often only provide temporary relief. So you get to be in pain and broke.
I am currently filing for disability and all the paperwork is such a pain- but at this point I don’t have much choice.
Well where do I start? LOL I have degenerative disc disease which I’m pretty sure is just a fancy way of saying there’s stuff wrong with your spine, but we can’t do anything for it because nothing will help. I have spinal stenosis which I had a decompression surgery to help with nerve pain down my left leg. Which didn’t help. So I still have the nerve pain and sensations and I will be seeing a neurologist in May for it as my surgeon doesn’t know what else could be causing the symptoms as the MRIs and EMG show nothing. (Of course) I have a rare form of dwarfism which may or may not be a factor in all this. My form of it affects organs while stunting bone growth. Doctors didn’t think I’d live past age 1 and if I did, I’d need heart surgery and have a whole lot of other internal problems. Obviously I made it past 1 and I have never had any problems with my organs.
I also suffer from depression and am in a bad place with it right now as I’m having to fight with insurance and work. I am not able to sit for very long without getting so uncomfortable I want to crawl out of my skin.
I have tried chiro but it only flamed up my symptoms worse. I am allergic to narcotic pain killers so I can’t take anything really. And I can’t get past 400mg of neurontin without it making me so tired I literally can’t think. So that’s where I’m at. I am going to be trying yoga to see if that helps at all.
Wow, I defniitely don’t feel alone any more! Thank you all for replying, I have felt like I was going through this all by myself…a bit self centred of my really 🙂
I’m going to try a chiropracture now, it sounds like it might help.
KatnipCrzy & Michelle; I had a fractured disc in my back a few years ago, with nerve pain down the leg as well…and I thought my world would end, so much pain! I’m so blessed to have healed from that and I’m terribly sorry that you both have to live with such pain (greater than mine, I’m sure).
Elrowen: I’m glad that the medication is helping! Migraines almost daily is crazy.
JG: I looked up Astra-forte, sounds gross hahaha, but I’ll have a look for it. Anything is worth a try.
Medical weed…sounds like a fantasy world…
Yep, fibromyalgia sufferer here too! Tie that to depression & anxiety and (fingers crossed) in remission IBS. No words of wisdom on treatments because right now I’m just dealing – can’t find a dr that I like – having the ability to work from home one day a week REALLY helps. I did go through a bad bout about a month ago – major bad project at work; banner joined the family and merry started acting up; and being Asst stage manager for a play (= late nights, less sleep). NO FUN!
At any rate – I hope you find your stabilizer…
I believe I’m in a similar position but not as severe as what I’ve heard! I’ve had sciatica down my right side for the last month and it’s very uncomfortable for me to sit for long periods of time. I’ve actually been off work for the last month with the pain and have been on strong pain pills since. It also kills me to lie down, making sleeping a nightmare.
In my case exercise has really helped. I work out every day and I really feel the difference. However if the pain continues for the next week or so, I’ll have to go to hospital and possibly surgery. Which is mega lame.
I feel your pain ![]()
Hi Emmie!
That sounds like my hubby. He’s had a fractured lumbar spine for almost 22 years and he also has a bad bone condition that makes him very uncomfortable all the time. I don’t think he’s gotten a straight eight since he broke himself. Sleep is so precious when one is in pain, so anything that disturbs that is of course very frustrating.
I threw my neck out just before bed last night. All I did was rub it because the muscles were hurting and SNAP! *ugh!* It was almost impossible to sleep and when I woke up it was still out. It took quite a few odd positions and a few hours to get it to snap back into place, but now my shoulders are askew so…if it’s not one thing it’s another. >.<
Well, I went to my doctor’s appointment this week and I didn’t get any helpful news. For the most part my doc says my xrays and bloodwork look good, but there was talk of a bone scan for a diagnosis on my pain. This means he’s starting to think along the lines of bone mets. I think I would rather he’d said I had fibro. ~_~ Although I think that metastases would be much more painful than what I’m experiencing and I’d be seeing other symptoms.
I do recall my gynecologist told me at my yearly a few months back that it sounded like I’m getting osteoporosis, so I’ll have to decide when my cancer screening bloodwork comes back next week whether I want to sink two grand into a CAT scan, (it would just be to ease my mind so I don’t worry-since my oncologist also didn’t really think I’m out of remission) which is not a fun test as I’m allergic to the contrast.
And if it were mets there’s only so much you can do about it anyway. I’d be back on chemo and radiation. So I’m just going to err on the positive side. ^_^
Still, it would’ve been nice if he could’ve done something more for my discomfort. My stomach is getting really tired of aspirin.
At least I am not going back on adjuvant therapy for now. As far as that’s concerned he said we’ll see how I am in two months and then go from there.
He says I’m one of the offices’ ‘old timers’…huh? 0_o I don’t know if that was a backhanded compliment or what…lol.
The big shock was to find out that one of the doctors at the practice had passed away suddenly a few weeks ago. 0_o Heart attack. This is such a small ‘town’ that I am surprised I didn’t hear about it sooner. It was quite a shock. So all in all a very confusing day.
And OH…even though it’s a controversial approach I have to say, VITAMINS! The more natural you can get the better, but I haven’t taken any for a few months and I just began another regimen of dailies and it’s really helped my energy level. I still hurt, but if I can keep moving (like Emmie said) I can bear with it at least. B vitamins mostly, and calcium if you have bone pain. Really helps.
(((Healing vibes))) to everyone! I’m starting to settle down now, so I”m feeling bloody lucky at the moment. I wish there was a magic wand to make everyone’s pain go away! xox
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