about greens

[Cupcake~]

I’ve increased Cupcake’s greens over the last few weeks, and now she’s been getting 2 cups a day – about 2/3 lower oxalates being Boston lettuce, leaf lettuce and romaine, and about 1/3 high oxalates, spinach or red kale(switching every couple days) and now I’m concerned that I’ve been giving too much spinach and kale.. what quantity high oxalates at a time, and how often a week? Also, do things like dill count as those leafy greens or as the other 15% of non-leafy vegetables?

[Paige]

Hi
I would feed 1/3 high oxalates every other day, it depends on the bun and how sensitive their stomach is, you could do less than that as well
Dill doesn’t count as a leafy green and you don’t have to follow the special and specific measurements for what to put in your buns salad as all buns are different ?
My bunny doesn’t get any high oxalate veggies because those are too rough on him and he gets less veggies than he is supposed to also because of stomach issues. In addition to those things he can’t have the stems of his romaine because they have lots of water and not much nutrition compared to the leaves(and he doesn’t like the stems lol).
Edit:my mistake dill is a leafy green, I guess I mixed it up since I don’t feed non leafy greens Thanks Sarah!

[sarahthegemini]

I don’t really measure anything. I just give handfuls of each item, a handful of rocket, a handful of watercress etc. With things like kale, I only buy it once or twice a month and whilst I have it I give a small handful every day til it runs out. Then I won’t get it again for a few weeks. Try not to overcomplicate things  

Dill and other herbs are leafy greens. Non leafy greens would be things like fennel, asparagus, parsnip, celery etc. I don’t give any of those simply because Buttercup got stasis after a small piece of parsnip. 

[Luna]

It’s good that you are keeping an eye on oxalate intake, but a veggie with oxalates are not per se bad for your bun (unless she has a sensitive stomach). It is an all-oxalate diet or diet too concentrated in oxalates that can cause issues. The real key is variety/rotating veggies. For instance, you wouldn’t want to give your bun nothing but spinach every day for 2 weeks straight. I usually give Luna 2-3 different veggies each day for 1 week (or however long they last), with only 1 of the veggies being high in oxalates. Then the next week she will get 2-3 veggies different from the week before, and so on.

[Cupcake~]

Okay so I basically just don’t give tooo much high oxalates( 1/4-1/3 of the amount) not necessarily every single day, and switch it up often I’m still confused about the dill and non- lettuce though

[sarahthegemini]

Posted By Cupcake~ on 3/23/2017 7:52 AM

Okay so I basically just don’t give tooo much high oxalates( 1/4-1/3 of the amount) not necessarily every single day, and switch it up often I’m still confused about the dill and non- lettuce though

What are you confused about? 

[Tony's Mum]

I thought kale was low oxalates? It’s Tony’s favourite so he gets it as part of his diet almost daily

[BunnyFriends]

Kale is high oxalate, Tony’s Mum.

[Tony's Mum]

Oof, good to know. I’ll start cutting down on it so!

[Cupcake~]

Whether or not it’s a leafy green (I got conflicting answers)

[Paige]

Please look at my post again I edited it.

[sarahthegemini]

Posted By Cupcake~ on 3/23/2017 9:48 AM

Whether or not it’s a leafy green (I got conflicting answers)

Well, it’s leafy and it’s green so…

[Luna]

TM & BF – I thought Kale was high in vitamin A but low in oxalate.

STG – Lol that made my day .

Paige – To extrapolate on what STG is saying, think of non-leafy greens as meaning ‘greens where the body of the veggie is not made up of leaves’ (ie. carrots). Here’s a good link: http://rabbit.org/suggested-vegetables-and-fruits-for-a-rabbit-diet/

[Paige]

I thought kale was a low oxalate as well but I heard that it has a high amount of calcium(? ) so maybe there’s a little confusion

[graysonbun]

I think the opinion on kale depends on who you’re speaking to, I use the house rabbit society’s recommended veggie list, (http://rabbit.org/suggested-vegetables-and-fruits-for-a-rabbit-diet/) and on this specific list it has kale as low in oxalic acid. I’ve fed it to my buns almost daily and have had no problems, but again buns with the more sensitive stomachs may have problems with it!!

[Cupcake~]

Okay thank you everyone I know this is off topic but Cupcake enjoys being stroked and pet but is afraid (?) of my lap, she won’t even come on to it eat her pellets or treats- and no bad experiences have happened on my lap and I’ve had her since a baby

[Paige]

Maybe she doesn’t like to be off the ground even a slight amount
My bunny doesn’t sit on my lap either and he’s very sweet as well
I think it has to do with how bunnies interact and sitting on each isn’t one of those lol

[vanessa]

I used to give my bunnnies plenty of kale/collards, especially if I was growing it. I stopped with the daily kale/collards because of the calcium content and Guin’s chalky pee. No more chalky pee. I still feed collards/kale, but maybe only 1 day a week. I try to achieve variety. So If it is green, and it isn’t a legume, I’ll feed it to them. They get spring mix leafy greens, (4 different lettuce/radichio mix), radish, bell pepper, butter lettuce, cucumber, celery, chickweed, dandelion, fennel, cilantro, parsley, basil, mint, thyme, rosemary, borage, turnip leaves, raspberry leaves. I give each bunny a large handful of leaves a day, plus 3 or 4 of the other items like 1 radish, 1/4 bell pepper, 1/4 celery stik, 1/4 cucumber, 6-inch piece of rosemary, etc. Chickweed and Dandelion I just grab a gallon bag from my garden and divide it 4 ways.

[Cupcake~]

Posted By Paige on 3/23/2017 11:35 AM
Maybe she doesn’t like to be off the ground even a slight amount
My bunny doesn’t sit on my lap either and he’s very sweet as well
I think it has to do with how bunnies interact and sitting on each isn’t one of those lol

Could be, though she jumps up onto others things ?

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