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Forum THE LOUNGE WELCOME ! The Mitchell household of 11

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    • Barmy Bunny Broad
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        HI:

        My name is Kim and my family currently numbers at 11. I’m married with two sons (3 and 13), two adult rabbits and five kits (4 weeks old at this time). Here is our story in a nutshell.

        I grew up surounded by pets, and really missed having one. I also wanted my sons to experience the wonderful joys and responsibilities of having an animal companion. After 8 years of living in a no pets apartment, we finally bought our first house and promised our boys a pet. The condo rules of our townhouse complex limits the type of dogs that are allowed, my husband is allergic to cats, and the boys wanted something they could actually play with, so a rabbit was the perfect choice.

        I spent a few weeks searching our local online classifieds and found a posting for a one year old, fixed female dwarf named Sugar. Sugar had been bought from a pet store as a baby and within the year, the novelty had worn off and the teen owner was tired of the work. We adopted Sugar in late September 2010 and absolutely loved having him join our family (yes, he, but more about that in a bit). Further research has brought us to the conclusion that Sugar is not a dwarf rabbit either (vet aslso said he wasn’t). Our best guess is that he is a Silver Maarten breed.

        A few months later, I saw a posting for baby rabbits, and started thinking that it would be nice for Sugar to have a companion as we are gone during the day hours. I also hoped that if it was my older son’s responsibility to train it, then it would be much closer and affectionate with him than Sugar was. Sugar was very friendly with me, but only tolerated the “men”. We missed out on getting one of the babies; however, in January 2011, we found a posting for Cuddles. Cuddles was a seven month old, female veleveteen rabbit (akak Rex). As with Sugar, once the novelty of a baby rabbit wore off and the work became too much for the child owner, the parents made the decision that it needed to find another home. After a lengthy phone call, the family decided that we would provide a good home andthey let us adopt Cuddles. Cuddles was very affectionate with everyone, right from the start. She licked and groomed me within five minutes of meeting her.

        Despite what I had read about the bonding process being potentially difficult and lengthy, Sugar and Cuddles were grooming each other and snuggling up within hours. We noticed some unexpected “behaviour” given that they were both (supposedly) female; however, research informed us that this was a normal bid for dominance between two females, and as they were not fighting or violent (in fact Cuddles just rolled over and exposed her belly), we did not worry about it too much.  We did seperate them at night though as they were not ready to share a cage, but in the open space of our living room, they were wonderful together. Too wonderful, as it turns out.

        Three months later, we had just got home from work and I was starting to make dinner, when my oldest son called out form the living room “Mom, Dad, I think you’d better see this”. Rushing to Cuddles’ Cage with us right behind him, he said “There’s a baby in there”. Yep! Cuddles was kindling. We witnessed the birth of the next three babies. We also discovered that she had already had one baby about five hours earlier when she was out in the living room. Again, it was my oldestson that heard squeaking and found the kit under a cloth cube that the rabbits liked to rest in. It was still alive but quite cool, so we wrapped it in a washcloth and took turns holding it against our bodies until it warmed up. We then put it in the nest with the others (can’t tell it apart from the others now).

        As we had no idea that Cuddles was pregnant (that was also our “clue” that Sugar was male, NOT female, and NOT fixed), I quickly cleaned things up, and made a temporary nest, while my husband was online researching as fast as he could about what we should and should not do.

        Needless to say, I made some phone calls the next day, and Sugar had an appointment with the vet. He was deemd healthy, Beautiful (which we already knew), and in great shape for the surgery. Unfortunately, he had to wait another week to have the surgery though. After a rough day or two following the surgery (he was cold and did not want to eat), he made a perfect recovery.

        The babies are now four weeks old and have taken over our living room. We have been on a very steep learnign curve this last month, but it has been an amazing journey so far. Cuddles and Sugar miss each other quite a lot and usually run right over to the other’s cage as soon as they are let out (not at the same time). We did try to let them be together once or twice this past week as they seemed to be pining for each other, but Sugar will not let Cuddles be (still humping her without relent). As she is still nursing and it has only been three weeks since his surgery, we have gone back to only letting one out a time.

        I have been writing a blog about our experience: http://mitchellbabybunnies.blogspot.com/


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          Posted By Barmy Bunny Broad on 05/13/2011 07:10 PM

           We did try to let them be together once or twice as they seemed to be pining for each other, but Sugar will not let Cuddles be (still humping her without relent). As she is still nursing and it has only been three weeks since his surgery, we have gone back to only letting one out a time.

           

          I want to first say Welcome and Wow….lots of stuff happening.   Then the next thing I definitely want ot say before I move on to anything else, is absolutely keep them separated until at least a month after surgery.  I may be misunderstanding this, (as you did say you have gone back to letting only one out one at a time), but if he mated with her after she gave birth before his surgery and during the month after, she could be pregnant again.  Rabbits can get pregnant again within 24 hours of giving birth. 

          Okay, with that big “uh oh” aside. Sounds like you have had quite the adventure.  Definitely not uncommon to get misinformation from petstores, previous owners etc.  So it’s seems as if you have been able to go with the flow pretty well.   There are some other members here who have had to deal with “oops” litters which may be able to offer some good advice.  Seems like you are very good about researching though and figuring things out as soon as you can.

          We are here for support!!


        • Barmy Bunny Broad
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            Thank you for the welcome. Yes, a lot going on right now.
            We actually separated the male and female the day before she gave birth as he would not leave her alone and she was not happy about his attentions. Of course, that make perfect sense now, but at the time we did not understand it. They were completely separated for three weeks after the birth (14 days post surgery for him). We tried to let them have their free time together on two separate occasions, but each time, he started humping her again. We stopped him as soon as we saw this, but decided we need to wait longer, so they have separate free time again.

            As for another pregnancy, I guess we need to wait another week or two to be sure, but we are hopeful that as he was 14 days post surgery and we stopped it quickly, it will not be an issue. We are saving up to get the female spayed once she has finished weaning the kits, and so will wait to let them be together again until that is done. We will also need to introduce the male to the one baby we are keeping (female), but again, will wait.


          • LoveChaCha
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              That is the only thing that is on the males mind.. mating. Females can get pregnant right after giving birth to a litter.

              Male rabbits can still have sperm after getting neutered. It has happened to a member on here before, and she ended up with a litter. I would wait a month or so. The hormones need to settle down.


            • skibunny8503
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                Wow what a story! I really enjoyed reading your blog about your experience! And those pictures oh my gosh they are so cute! I can’t believe how big they got in such a short amount of time. It looked like a lot of work to take care of all the bunnies but it looks like you and your family have handled it beautifully!


              • Barmy Bunny Broad
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                  Love ChaCha – The picture of your rabbit, looks very much like our male, Sugar (not our name choice, a teen girl named him that, thinking it was her). Do you know what breed s/he is?


                • LoveChaCha
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                    My bunny is a Black Otter (coloring) Netherland Dwarf. She is a ‘false dwarf’ which means she lacks a dwarf gene, which explains why she is 4 pounds She isn’t chubby at all, but is very bratty.


                  • Silly Sungura
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                      My goodness, those babies are incredibly cute! I love the pic where the bunny has its tongue out. Best of luck to you with finding them good homes.


                    • peppypoo
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                        Barmy Bunny Broad – “otter” is more of a coat pattern than breed. My Remi is a black otter netherland dwarf like Chacha, but we have other members here that have otters of other breeds. “Otter” itself refers to the cream colored tummy/chin, ears, nostrils, and underside of the tail; a black otter will be black/cream, a blue otter will be blue/cream, etc. From your pictures, it looks like you have some absolutely adorable black otters, and a few cute little brown otters too .

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