Woo you’re gonna have fun come puberty lol. Grats on the new addition, she’s adorable

Squeeeee…..baby bunnies!!! How adorable! Congrats, you’re so lucky!

She’s so cute! What a funny mix tho… I see nothing of either breed in her. (And I wonder why a breeder would cross-breed anyways, very weird.) How big is she?

If I were you, I would go ahead and spay the two older ones as soon as they are old enough and get them done and healing. And then get the younger one spayed once she is old enough. The truth is, Heifer and Moose are tentatively bonded right now, but that bond can (and most likely will) break once puberty hits, unless you can intercept it and get them spayed in time. A female pair is notoriously difficult to bond. Three females… yikes. Your only course of action will be to spay ASAP and really work with them.

She is adorable!

I’m very sorry that Heifer passed. Let us know when you hear back from the vet. You should let the breeder know as well what has happened. There may be something they can do on their end to prevent this from occurring again… most importantly, not separating mom and babies before 8 weeks old.

(((Binky free Heifer!)))

As far as getting another baby right now, if I were in your position, I would wait. At least wait until your first rabbit is fixed before bringing a second into the house, especially one of the opposite sex. You’re just asking for trouble doing that. And now that there may be something wrong with Moose (if her and Heifer both had a problem) you wouldn’t want to expose the new rabbit to this. If something comes back and it was traced back to the breeder, I would strongly recommend you not deal with this breeder again, but rather adopt an altered, vet-checked bunny thru a reputable rescue.

Oh I am so sorry to hear about Heifer. Sometimes there’s just no warning, and they’re just gone… Binky free little Heifer.

I suspect they are just born with heart murmers. Heart problems would take them sudden like that, without warning. I’m really sorry. This must be hard on you having lost Whiteout and now Heifer. (((Hugs)))

I suggest you hold off on getting another just yet. Concentrate on spending lots of time with Moose if she’s grieving. It will strengthen your bond with her. Bringing an new rabbit into her space can be stressful – as is bonding sometimes. I think you would both benefit just being each others companion for now. Once she’s older and fixed, you’ll have more of an idea of her personality which should help in getting her a friend.

Again, I’m sorry for your loss. *Binky Free Heifer!*

Poor baby. Hopefully she went quickly. I’m guessing like with people, you can have a heart murmur and have problems your entire life… or have a murmur and live to be 95 years old with hardly a complication. Hopefully this will ease your mind that it wasn’t preventable and there was nothing you could do except love her to bits, which you did :o)

Poor little one. Binky free sweet Heifer!

Try to spend extra cuddle time with Moose and give her lots of attention. Also keep an eye on her eating as she may slow down or stop if she is very sad. I used to have 2 bonded bunnies that were the best of friends and did everything together. One passed away and the other one was so sad without him. The saddest part was when he would look for him – oh it would break my heart. It took about a week or so and he wasn’t so sad and started eating like normal. After a month or so I bonded him with my other rabbit and he was perfectly happy again. So just give her time and extra love and she will come around. She just misses her sister just like you.

Hugs to you – so sorry you lost this sweet little one.

hey, sorry im a bit late to the forum… flemmi / lionhead… msg me asap.. im curious where this breeder is located ive been looking at baby buns over the last year and am very concerened about a cartain breeder who sells flemmi / lionhead mix’s…. its kinda obviouse that she over breeds because she always has flemmi/ flemmi mixes for sale and yet she claims to only have flemmi bucks (and im thinking she only uses 1 because every batch of babies look the same) please msg me!!

alll bunnies are cute.. but if it is the same breeder them maybe yiou can check with him/ her when you go pick up the baby bunny.. you know, to make sure their not over bred

EDit: just finished reading the forum! im sooo soo sorry about heifer!!! just spend lots of time with moose, thats all i can suggest. she can help you with your loss and in return you can help her with hers…. it must be  soo hard *hugs*

Good call Miranda! Over breeding just to produce a certain look can certainly lead to some health defects too. Some less responsible breeders may not be upfront about this. It’s rather damaging to reputations of Breeders, especially those who are trying to keep strong, healthy lines of their breeds.

Sorry to hear about your bunny. How sad for you and Moose. You’ll have to really help each other get through it. ***Bunny Hugs***

IT IS THE SAME BREEDER!

this is what her adds on kijiji say.

this is off the home page from their website: (im editing out her e-mail adress)

Welcome

We Have A Rabbitry For Almost 1 Year. I have Lots of experience with rabbits. I did It when I was young and I always wanted to have another rabbitry. We Sell Different types of breeds like Flemish Giant, Holland Lop and some other breeds. We only have 2 Bucks So most of the largest breeds are bred with the Flemish Giant Bucks. And the smaller Breeds are mostly bred with a Holland lop buck. Almost all of my rabbits live in wooden cages, and we feed them corn and pellets also some vegeables. If you see something you would like to buy from the Snoeijers Rabbitry Please email me at *.*.*.* or If you have any question please also email me. Only Serious Response Required.!
 

i underlined where she specifies that they only have 2 bucks. im assuming 1 holland lop, 1  flemmie. and its sad because none of the babies that have been posted, are fathered by a lop, ALL are from a flemmi even the little dwarfs, its sad!

I don’t really think this is the place for this type of discussion… but I will say that I don’t *think* using the same MALE for breeding constitutes “overbreeding”. B/c the male is not DOING THE WORK of going thru gestation, birth, and nursing over and over and over. Overbreeding is a concern with females.

I do however think it’s awful that they are irresponsibly cross-breeding bunnies, and so many of them. I agree that this person doesn’t sound like a good breeder, or person. I would definitely not have any dealings with them.

I agree with Beka on all counts. It is also very dangerous to breed a large breed father to a small breed mother as it is very easy for the kits to be too large for her body to handle.

I wouldn’t have any further dealings with this breeder.

i do not deal with this breeder, i was mainly conserened with the number of kits he puts out with ONLY one male… 4 litters a month… and i dont know how many does he has but im sure not many

was actually going to come back and appologise for stealing the thread .

It’s hard when you have your heart set on a specific bun, b/c you feel like you have to snatch up the first one you see! I also really, really, really want a Flemish Giant! Keep on the lookout. It would be better of course to get a flemmie thru a rescue, there are not many in rescues, but they do show up from time to time. And if you absolutely HAVE TO HAVE A FLEMMIE, and there are none in local rescues, I’d personally prefer seeing you go thru a reputable breeder who is not carelessly cross-breeding and who has documentation to prove that these rabbits are healthy and purebred.

Another concern besides birth with a small mom and large dad… you don’t know what kind of health problems may crop up later on. Let’s say that the bunny is smaller with a “Lionhead head”, but the teeth are disproportionately large due to the flemish crossbreeding. You are looking at continuous health problems and malocclusion… just b/c the teeth “don’t fit”.

This happens frequently in humans:
dad’s big jaw, mom’s itty bitty teeth = gaps between your teeth —> you need braces
mom’s small jaw, dad’s humongous teeth = crowded, misaligned teeth —> you need braces (this scenario was me, 4 teeth pulled and 4 years of braces.)

So I’m off an a tangent… but you get my point.

i understand you are not into getting another bunny right now but if you choose to in the future,  i showed becka a pic of a flemmie who i adore  a few threads back….. i’ll post the link in a moment.

http://www.rabbitrescue.ca/adoption/malerabbits.html

he’s the fourth one down, his name is Gizmo!

(btw the shelter wont adopt out unless all the buns in your home are fixed or are too young to get fixed but you are planning on sputering them)

Register will all your resuces and say you want a flemie that way if one comes in they should call you. Also check with your vet they may know of a breeder for when you are ready.

KNow this that least your little girl was happy right up untill the end. There was nothing you could have done any differenet and I am sure she enjoyed herself with you.

When the time is right, it will happen. I’m glad Moose is seeming a little bit better.

I’m so sorry about Heifer. She was beautiful.

I’m a huge fan of flemmies. It’s too bad you’re so far away because my rescue has a gorgeous fawn buck.

That breeder person sounds horrible. I’m sending all kinds of bad karma vibes his way. :0( I hope his breeding stock is at least well taken care of.

they live in thoses wooden breeder cages … it disgusts me!