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Forum DIET & CARE x pen height ?

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    • Ang
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        how high does an x pen have to be so my bun cant jump it?  i have a mini lop mix and just curious i would like him to use the x pen all day long however i am afraid he will jump over it?

         

         


      • kimberleyanddarren
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          they could probably jump id say 3 times their height as a rough guess, hopscotch can easily jump a metre, you could just put something over the top of it like that material mesh stuff or see through plastic or something.


        • Alicia Conklin
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            Mine is 28 inches and my dwarf (but kind of a big dwarf) can’t jump it.  But that’s with NOTHING to sit on..in areas where there are things that he can sit on I raise it to 41 inches


          • Sarita
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              I think mine are 36 inches high so they are very high.

              If you get the shorter ones then you can clothespin a sheet over the top to discourage jumping.


            • Moonlight_Wolf
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                It depends on if your bunny jumps a lot or not, my pen is 29 (i know, why couldn’t they make it 30.) inches high and I am not worried at all about her jumping over it , then again, she is not too much of a jumper.


              • JK
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                  Mine is 24″ but Edson doesn’t jump.  I would say 36″ is good and you could always put a sheet over the top and clip it down when unsupervised.  They do this at the rescue for the jumpers and their xpens are 36″.


                • Alicia Conklin
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                    Hehe we did that for a while before we added the extra squares near his raised areas…my dumb pug jumped from my computer chair onto the sheet thinking that it was solid and fell through and was trapped with Tucker all morning while we were out shopping LOL none of them were all too happy about it!


                  • Ang
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                      so what all do you guys use for x pens?


                    • kimberleyanddarren
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                        i use NIC cubes which i built into a pen, but some people use those little dog/baby octagon things? its really up 2 u and LOL @ tuckerbunz!


                      • Alicia Conklin
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                          I use the NIC panels too..this way I can adjust it as needed   I have the one set made into a pen with a covered shelf for him to sit on and then the other I have as a huge gate type thing that spans the room into the kitchen..that way I can block off the part that I don’t want him in and he can have that whole space.  Sometimes I change it to allow him the hallway too and then he can do his bunny laps better I like the NIC grids because they’re flexible AND cheap!


                        • Ang
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                            i would be intersted in seeing your set up? do u have a pic?


                          • Alicia Conklin
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                              I don’t have one of the gate type one..but I’ve been meaning to so I will do that tonight  and post it on here


                            • Alicia Conklin
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                                Oh and this is my old one..that also had a ex pen connected but was a more covered cage…

                                 


                              • Ang
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                                  nice set up!! thank you for the information! i love it.


                                • nikiway
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                                    This may be a dumb question, but what if your bunny cannot/won’t jump to get to the second levels?
                                    I’ve been interested in making something like this because Atticus’s area is half of my room sepperated by fencing used for chickens, but he can’t jump onto things that are very high up without having steps/ramps.


                                  • Alicia Conklin
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                                      You could add a ramp or something to jump on before getting up to that level.  When we first got Tucker he didn’t like to jump all the way onto the shelf so we had a box that he’d jump on and then jump from that onto his shelf.  He soon got used to jumping all the way up though and I eventually took the box out. 

                                       

                                      edit: I didn’t realize it..but you can see the box that he had in the picture.  The box was open on the one end too..I got it from Sam’s Club and it was awesome becaue it was like a little house for him too


                                    • nikiway
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                                        lol, putting a ramp/box didn’t even click while I was looking at the pictures, even though atti has a box to climb onto his house. lol wow

                                        Another probably dumb question, Can your pen open up so your bun can run around the room and still get back in?


                                      • MarkBun
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                                          Yup, I have a condo with a nice, large door in it so they can hop freely while I have it open and then lock them in for the night.

                                          My maryann IS a jumper. She can clear a 3′ x-pen with ease. Which made it difficult keeping her in her room until I found out that apparently buns understand ‘depth’ as well as ‘height’ and if I accordion my X-pen so that it is 2 feet thick, she won’t jump it.


                                        • Alicia Conklin
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                                            Mine opens up too.  On the top one..the open one..the two grids on the right hand side open up into a door and he can come and go as he wants during the day.  Then at night I close it back up.  I use binder clips to keep it shut  


                                          • Alicia Conklin
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                                              Ok here are some pictures of how I have the NIC grids as a gate to block off only the part of the room that Tucker’s allowed in.  They lead from his cage past my office area (and my daughter’s messy computer area…ACK!) into the kitchen and then he has all of the ktchen too…Ignore the messiness of the house..I work from home so the kids are home all day messing it up but I am working and not able to clean up after them..and today is my Friday so the house is due for a major cleaning!!!

                                               There’s one of our reasons for the gate! The other reason is Tucker’s insatiable taste for carpet over by the couches!

                                               View from standing in Tucker’s pen through the area he has in my office and through to the kitchen.  I like the grids because I can also move them to the left and to the left of that toy box is a hallway..so when the kids are upstairs while I am working I can move it over there and then he can go through the hallway that loops around into the kitchen.

                                                And just cos Tucker was jealous of the other pictures without his cute self in them

                                               

                                              So basically…the NIC grids are cheap and they’re really customizable..I love them because…like just today I had a gate that blocked the bottom of my desk so Tucker couldn’t get up with the cords.  But then he found out that he could jump onto them! Oh nO!!! So I took the grids apart and redesigned them so that they were taller and just blocked the cords part…  


                                            • nikiway
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                                                Tucker is a little cutie!!
                                                I suppose my set up is simular, just without the cubes. I have fencing, wood, plastic toy boxes for the nighttime area then I move a piece of wood which leads out to the larger part of the room which is blocked with chicken fencing.
                                                I wish it looked as nice as the cubes though! lol


                                              • Ashley
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                                                  I’m jealous of all of you who have these cute indoor cages and run areas for your buns!  I have a bunny but she is not allowed inside – my in-laws are residing with us right now and she is severely allergic.  So missy bun has to stay in her hutch in the barn   She gets “out of her pen” playtime and is sheltered from any weather, but I really would like to have her inside.  I have those willow mats on the floor of her hutch as its the small square wire and I dont’ want her little feetsies on it, and she has her toys and such, but it would be so much fun to have her inside.  The boyfriend says “no” too but I’m still working on him so hopefully when the in-laws find a place, he will have broken down and will allow bun bun in the house.  I’ve been explaining that she doesn’t need the run of the house but a hutch with an x-pen but he pictures chewed table legs and pee on the floor (even though she’s litter trained). 

                                                  Any suggestions for persuasion?!  He’s not particularly “soft-hearted” so they have to be really good!


                                                • TARM
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                                                    See? This is why I’m glad I own my own house. I don’t have to answer to anyone. My sister came over on Sunday and saw my ferret cage, my rat cage, my huge rabbit cage, and my two dogs. She raised her eyebrows at me and said I should sell my townhouse (which I just bought) and buy a house with a barn…but that’s it. I will not be told how many animals of which kind can live in my house.

                                                    So you guys aren’t married? Do you own the house or rent it? If you own it is your name on it? If your name is on it I say no persuasion is needed, just bring the bunny in. If he doesn’t like it…tough.

                                                    Of course this attitude *could* be why I’m single.


                                                  • Ashley
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                                                      We are not married and its his house – I moved in with him and brought along my bunny and two horses oh, and fish!  Right now his parents are living with him (long story but basically they had to sell their house because they could not afford it after his dad got hurt).  So, they are now in the process of getting back on their feet and are now able to afford a house of their own, they just haven’t found one yet.

                                                      AND – his brother is his roommate…and the brother also says no bunny in the house.

                                                      Trust me – if it were “my” house, she would be inside.

                                                      Any more suggestions?  I’ve tried the “but she’s litter trained and I can have a pen set up outside her cage so she only has “her” area” line but it didn’t work.  He thinks bunnies should be outside, not in the house.


                                                    • TARM
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                                                        How long have you been together? If you have plans to marry him you two better have a discussion about sharing things equally (i.e. THE HOUSE) so that one of you doesn’t dictate while the other only gets to obey.

                                                        I just recently broke up with my boyfriend and we lived with him for three months while I was wating to close on my house. He happened to be fine with all of my animals (this was before we had the rabbits) but if he WOULDN’T have been fine treating my animals like family we would have parted ways a heck of a lot sooner.

                                                        I think with this guy, since he’s so adamant about NOT letting the rabbit in the house, you will just have to decide what’s more important to you…your relationship with this man (who may or may not always be loyal to you) or your relationship with your pet (who will ALWAYS be loyal to you, even though she’s been banished to the barn).

                                                        Keep in mind that I’m not judging you, I just happen to be kind of anti-man right now. I know what’s right for me. Only you know what’s right for you.

                                                        On another note, maybe if you spend your time outside with the rabbit your boyfriend will miss you and when you refuse to come in the house during bunny time he’ll change his mind.


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                                                          We have been together for 6 months.  When I first started staying there, the bunny was located at my previous residence (i.e. my parents house ) and didn’t move in with me until about two months ago.  I think if the bunny was inside at my parents (which she wasn’t inside there either because it was their house and wouldn’t allow it) then he would have been fine with her coming inside.  But because she was outside there, his attitude is that she was fine outside before, why not now? 

                                                          PLUS I have the added pain in the @$$ to deal with – his brother, who is quite a grumpy person and before I even moved the bunny over there, his reponse was “fine, as long as she’s not in the house.”  My boyfriend’s name is on the house, but they basically both pay for it because him and his brother have the dairy farm together and both work it equally, so its hard to say its my boyfriends house – his brother puts the same about of time/labor into it and also helps pay the mortgage. 


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                                                            We have been together for 6 months.  When I first started staying there, the bunny was located at my previous residence (i.e. my parents house ) and didn’t move in with me until about two months ago.  I think if the bunny was inside at my parents (which she wasn’t inside there either because it was their house and wouldn’t allow it) then he would have been fine with her coming inside.  But because she was outside there, his attitude is that she was fine outside before, why not now? 

                                                            PLUS I have the added pain in the @$$ to deal with – his brother, who is quite a grumpy person and before I even moved the bunny over there, his reponse was “fine, as long as she’s not in the house.”  My boyfriend’s name is on the house, but they basically both pay for it because him and his brother have the dairy farm together and both work it equally, so its hard to say its my boyfriends house – his brother puts the same about of time/labor into it and also helps pay the mortgage. 


                                                          • Ashley
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                                                              We have been together for 6 months.  When I first started staying there, the bunny was located at my previous residence (i.e. my parents house ) and didn’t move in with me until about two months ago.  I think if the bunny was inside at my parents (which she wasn’t inside there either because it was their house and wouldn’t allow it) then he would have been fine with her coming inside.  But because she was outside there, his attitude is that she was fine outside before, why not now? 

                                                              PLUS I have the added pain in the @$$ to deal with – his brother, who is quite a grumpy person and before I even moved the bunny over there, his reponse was “fine, as long as she’s not in the house.”  My boyfriend’s name is on the house, but they basically both pay for it because him and his brother have the dairy farm together and both work it equally, so its hard to say its my boyfriends house – his brother puts the same about of time/labor into it and also helps pay the mortgage. 


                                                            • TARM
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                                                                Well, it sounds like you’re just going to have to be happy he allowed you to bring the rabbit and house it in the barn. If the brothers share the house equally you don’t want to get your boyfriend to agree with letting the rabbit inside while the brother is still against it. That will cause problems between them.

                                                                I will spare you my advice based on life experience and motherly instinct. Just make sure you think long and hard before you make any lifetime commitments. These days a lifetime usually only really lasts a couple of years.


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                                                                  oops – sorry about the three posts of the same thing!  my computer malfunctioned and I thought I only hit the button once but apparently I was wrong

                                                                  I’ll keep working on him – the thing is, his brother doesn’t even go in the area of the house where she would be and honestly probably wouldnt’ even notice that she was there!  That’s the annoying part!  Plus, what does it matter if I’m the one taking care of her and picking up after her!?  Its very frustrating.  I asked my boyfriend “why not?” and his answer was “bunnies dont’ go in the house” so he doesnt’ have a “REASON” he is just being difficult as far as I’m concerned!


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                                                                    I was looking at X pens today in the dog section to make a bigger enclosure for my bun. I have a question about them falling over. They seem like they can fall over pretty easily. I would be worried that Ruff would knock it over.


                                                                  • Ashley
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                                                                      You might be able to add weight somehow to the bottom so they can’t be moved by your bun.  if they can’t be moved, they can’t straighten out and collapse. 


                                                                    • Ang
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                                                                        i say six months isnt long dump the boyfriend and take your buns inside! 

                                                                         

                                                                        j/k though but not really thats what i would do.  my pets are my life and i would never be with someone that didnt accept them.


                                                                      • Ashley
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                                                                          but if i leave his house, I woudl be back at my parents for the time being, where she also is not allowed inside.  i have a better chance convincing the boyfriend than i do my parents!  

                                                                           

                                                                          I think he’ll eventually give in…maybe when his parents move out and i only have him to deal with (his mom is allergic so she couldnt’ come inside right now anyways)


                                                                        • Ang
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                                                                            oh that sucks. i can convince my boyfriend to do anything if i try hard enough. i guess that is what five years does! lol!
                                                                            keep working on it!


                                                                          • Alicia Conklin
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                                                                              LOL Angelina..my husband is the same way..I could probably convince him to do just about anything if I try hard enough and go about it the right way  We’ve been together for 7 years and married for 5..after a while you figure out how to get people to agree with you


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                                                                                Poor agonyaw!  I’m so sorry your bunny is banished outside!  That sucks!  Boyfriend does not sound very reasonable… 

                                                                                I’m going to have to agree with TARM…  I’m not particularly anti-men (currently I’m not!  I’ve had my spells of it in the past, though!), but I’ve lived by myself for 4 years because I don’t have to compromise with roommates, ask anyone’s permission, etc.  My BF is quite wonderful (ie, he lets me have my way in everything! ), and I never realized what jerks the ex’s really were until I met someone who actually valued my opinion.  It’s quite a shocking concept!

                                                                                Anyway, my Xpen is only 24″ high.  Lizzy’s a terrible jumper, and a klutz, and afraid of the hardwood floors because she can’t get any traction, so there’s virtually no chance of her jumping out!  I think necessary height depends on the individual rabbit…

                                                                                And yes, these Xpens can get shoved around pretty easily…they’re pretty light-weight.  They’ll keep most bunnies in (with adjustments for the determined escape-artists!), but they won’t keep a large dog out, for example…

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