unusual behavior! sleeping

[mocha200]

Mocha has been acting realy weird the last 2 days he has been really sleepy all the time and a lot more today than yesturday! he has been sleeping almost all day and when i came back from shoping and came in my room he was sleeping in his litter box and he bearly moved when he heard me come in! so i thought he might be over heated because my room has been hotter the last few days so i went in his cage and he didn’t move from were he was sitting. normaly he would have run away from me, but he let me walk up to him and pick him up, i held him by the window for a few minuts then put him beck in his cage with a ice block. he isn’t panting any more so he might have be over heated. he has been eating and drinking normally i think. what do you think is wrong?

[jerseygirl]

Did he improve any when you tried to cool him down? Is it summer where you live or is this heating in the house that’s making him hot.

Anytime a rabbit is not acting normal like this – it’s time to see the vet.

[Kokaneeandkahlua]

Ditto-any change vet time. Don’t wait -go asap

[mocha200]

yes he stopped breathing hard but he is still sleeping. it is winter we live in wisconsin so our house is pretty hot it is -1 digress out side. i am going to call the vet tomorrow if he is still like this but our vet isn’t open right now and emergency vets are really expensive unless you don’t think he will make it through the night.

[jerseygirl]

Could you take him to another non-emergency vet that is open?

[mocha200]

we live in a small town i don’t think there is any vets that are open. if i did take them to the vet how could they tell if anything was wrong/

[jerseygirl]

They can look for signs of dehydration, take his temperature, palpitate the gut to feel for blockages, listen to his lungs.
If you really think it because he’s too hot, move him to another room, give him the ice block and wet his ears with a cold wash cloth.

[BinkyBunny]

As soon as a bunny becomes listless, it’s an emergency. An emergency vet would be able to get fluids in him and do some basics to help get him out of danger. I am worried though because you said he’s been like this for two days? I urge you to seek out vet care asap if he is still acting this way.

I know it must be scary. Hugs to you. Healing Vibes to Mocha.

Please keep us updated.

Oh, and as a side question — how hot is it in your house and was much hotter just these last few days. (Don’t wait to take him to the vet though to answer this question and wait for a reply — regardless, vet care would be needed, I am just asking to figure out what might have got him to this state in the first place.

[mocha200]

well my vet does bunnys but he isn’t a bunny expert so if he doesn’t know whats wrong there is diffrent vet further away that i could take him to that is good with bunnys. i will wait till tomorrow and see if he is better if he isn’t i will call the vet.

[BinkyBunny]

Mocha – I just added an extra question about your house temp at the same time as you replied, so double check my post again.

How is he doing right now? Will he eat anything, what is his energy level like?

[mocha200]

well i have to wait till tomarow because my parrents are sleeping. yes it has been hotter the last few days in my room. it is 70 digress in the house and colder in my room but it was way warmer before in my room.

[BinkyBunny]

You can try and listen to his gut by gently putting your ear to his stomach and light gurgling should happen about every five seconds. Also, if you are able, look at his gums. If his gums are pale instead of pink, that’s not a good sign. Hopefully your parents would understand being woken up to save your bunny’s life. IF I had children, I would not fault them for waking me up to help them in this case. I know every family is different, but if he is listless, and/or pale gums this is an emergency and my only advice would be to seek a vet asap.

I’m sorry.

How’s he doing right now?  Is he eating and drinking?   I know you said he was doing that earlier. 

[mocha200]

he hasn’t moved from were he is now sense i made this form i am trying to find an emergency vet that does rabitts but on there web sights they don’t say what animals they do. how do i find a vet. help.

[mocha200]

i herd a gugaling sound but he wouldn’t let me look at his gums

[BinkyBunny]

I would call some of the Emergency vets near you and just ask them. Is Mocha eating at all? Will he take a treat? Did you have a chance to look at his gums?

[BinkyBunny]

oOOOPS — Sorry posting overlaps here.

Was the gurgling just sort of a quiet sound? (only can be heard by putting your ear to his tummy or could it be heard by sitting near him?)
If it was the quiet kind, that is a good sign.

[mocha200]

it was quit.

[BinkyBunny]

That’s good. Will he take a treat from you?  Can you get him to run to you if you have treats?

[mocha200]

welll he isn’t the kind of bunny that eats out of your hand he will somtimes but not always so it hard to tell. i left a some banana and carrot in there he didn’t eat anything. but he isn’t sleepping right now he is just sitting there.

[BinkyBunny]

So when you say he’s just sitting there, does he seem like he has no energy, like something still wrong? If so, I’m sorry I personally know how nerve-wracking this is. I hate for anyone to have to feel that kind of worry. I wish I could give you a definite confident answer of wait or go, but anytime there is doubt, I will always recommend to seek a vet out. And so if something still seems a bit off with him, then my original recommendation  remains the same.

[mocha200]

well i just went and checked on him but before i went in i thought i herd somthing so i listened and i herd him hopping arround and when i went in he was outside of his litter box

[mocha200]

do you think he was just dehidrated and he is better or do you think he just got up to strech?

[BinkyBunny]

I just now got caught up on your story from another thread you wrote. So your mom finally allowed you to bring him inside? He might still have his full winter coat on (especially since he had been outside)which may explain why he won’t be tolerant of heat so it’s good that you gave him something cold to lean against. And he also got hold of some tarp – How much did he eat?

[mocha200]

well i am not sure he eat any of it but when i got up to check what was going on i saw a lot of the tarp chewed up i never saw him eat any of it but he could have. do you want me to post a picture on how much of the tarp was gone when i woke up?

[BinkyBunny]

Well if you saw tarp pieces then most likely he just chewed on it, but if you only saw the tarp missing with no pieces then he may have eaten it.
How is he doing right now? I think really though, bottomline, if he’s still not himself, something is up, and you need to keep a close eye and get him to a vet asap.

[mocha200]

i just checked on him the banana is gone and the carrot and he is hopping arround and when i go outside of his pen and put my face up to it he comes up and sniffs it like normal i think he was over heated. he seams totaly back to normal but i will still keep an eye on him.

[mocha200]

there was quit a few peices of the tarp on the ground

[BinkyBunny]

Well…whew. That’s a good sign. An overheated bunny can be in danger,  and so I’m glad to hear that it “seems” like he’s coming around. I was wondering because, like I had mentioned earlier, he may have a heavier coat from living outside before. (Yeah though that your mother allows him to be inside so far and good work to you for getting her to give it a try)

Keep a close eye and if everything continues to seem back to normal, then just be sure that you leave some frozen water bottles and/or other cooling options, like large ceramic tiles squares, that can help him stay cool when your house gets warm.

HUGS to you and good work keeping a close eye on him and noticing health changes. I also recommend getting a list of Emergency Vets (maybe your regular vet can recommend some) so that if you ever are in this scary position again, you will at least have that part covered. I even have directions to my emergency vet so that will be one less thing for me to worry about in crises. (I’m terrible about directions even when I’m calm)

Keep us updated.

[mocha200]

yes i will defenently look up an emergency vets its just kind of hard to focas at 1:00 am. i hope i didn’t over react about this. maby i will try to go to sleep now. I will be keep a close eye on him to keep a close eye on him. after this i am deffinataly going start giving him lots of veggies and i am preparing my room for free range so he will have more room

[BinkyBunny]

I understand…it’s late. Try to get some rest. I don’t think you overreacted. Rabbit health can turn very serious very quickly and it’s best to really pay attention, and though sometimes it may end up being nothing, it’s those times that it’s not that it pays to be so aware.

Before you allow him to go free range, be sure to allow freedom slowly – but post that in another thread when you have time.

[mocha200]

ok i am trying to bunny proof my room right now maybe once i bunny proof it i will start a another form about it. one quick question, my side table is finished wood should i put something on there to make sure if he chews it?

[BinkyBunny]

How is Mocha today?

[mocha200]

he is totally back to normal! and we were using a whole bunch of power tools today and he doesn’t care. i have a thermometer in there and its a little under 60 i think, but i am sure because i am not that good reading them

[BinkyBunny]

You have a thermometer in your room? If so, good idea especially after what happened. So glad to hear he is back to normal. Big WHEW!!

[mocha200]

yeah i do. just got one the morning after he got over heated. i was wondering if he still has his winter coat what temperature should my room be at?

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