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For those of you who are newer to the board. My bunny Bailey has always had e.cuniculi. She has never shown any symptoms until this year. Her symptom is weakness in hind quarters which make it harder for her to hop around, and to lift up to urinate.
Thank goodness she doesn’t have head tilt (knock on wood). But I really have to keep a close eye and wash her hind quarters often to keep her from getting urine burn. Plus, this weakness is hard enough on her already crooked spine that also makes her hop funny. Anyway, she was treated with the newest latest and greatest and it got her back to normal for months, until now. I am starting to see slight weakness again, so I put the ramps back up to her litterbox and to the entrance of her pen.
She’s not as spunky as last time. Seems a bit down. She doesn’t even give Rucy the rough and tumble stink eye that she usually does through the pen . Just more observation than anything
The vets said that if it returned, they will put her back on it for longer or at a different dose or both. It’s still relatively new so though it worked well, it may need some adjusting.
So she’s starting back on it, and I hope it does what it did last time. She made such great improvements.
Please send Bailey happy healing vibes!
Awww, poor Bailey. Vicki and I send our best!
I hope she makes a full recovery for both of your sake. I’m sure it’s hard for Bailey to live that way and just as hard for you to keep a sharp eye on her – though it’s truly admirable that you’re so dedicated to her care The world needs more people like you!
Here’s to the hopes that the medication works as well as it did before! Keep us posted on how she’s doing!
Oohh NO! Jen I have just read your post and feel so sad … that poor lil pudding "Bailey".
Here’s lotsa love and get well vibes from my monkey "Luey" and sending you a BIG Aussie hug from me.
Be positive Chooky … she will be fine …. she is a strong and determined girl …. it will be ok.
I am going to print off this pic of Bailey and put her up on my board. Luey and Harley are also there too … they can all bounce off each other 😡
Dawn xx
Aww the baby… I hope she’s doing okay! I just found out that the bunny I was bunny-sitting has E. Cuniculi… I’m wondering if my Frankie got in contact with it! Eee!
I hope she gets better. She is very cute. I always check your buns on the webcam everytime I come here
i watch the webcams all the time she is my favorite and shes always doing something Ellie and I send our best wishes to bailey to get better
Awwww, Baileybum! such a cutiepie.
aawwww no, poor Bailey,
we send love, hugs and prayers too, I love watching them on the webcam,
Kathy, Pringles and Daisy
{{{Bailey}}} She’s a trooper, hang in there honey bun!
Though it is contagious, they only "for sure" way they know it is passed is via the urine during a shedding( not hair shedding, spore shedding) And rabbits with e.cuniculi don’t shed the spores all the time, only when it has traveled to their bladder. It usually doesn’t stay there the whole time. Did they share a litterbox? There is also some speculation about whether it can be airborn or not, but right now there is nothing definite about that.
Where did the bunny you petsit for stay in relation to where Frankie runs around ?
BB & Bailey, you are both in my thoughts and I hope that this episode will not recur.
Bailey is so so pretty.
Sending lots of love and lots of healing and hope for a quick recovery. Vanessa and family.
Though it is contagious, they only "for sure" way they know it is passed is via the urine during a shedding( not hair shedding, spore shedding) And rabbits with e.cuniculi don’t shed the spores all the time, only when it has traveled to their bladder. It usually doesn’t stay there the whole time. Did they share a litterbox? There is also some speculation about whether it can be airborn or not, but right now there is nothing definite about that.
Where did the bunny you petsit for stay in relation to where Frankie runs around ?
They were in the same room for a while, but after Abigail escaped her cage and attacked him, I moved her upstairs. I tried to keep them apart and actually had to keep her locked up because she had started to pee on the carpet after her territorial-ness kicked in. I think she may have peed in the corner down here because Frankie has always had immaculate litterbox habits, but has now taken to peeing and pooping in this certain corner in my house Any tips on getting that to stop, too??
It’s normal for Frankie to want to mark up the place when you are pet sitting another rabbit – even when the rabbit is gone, she would have left her scent. I think the best thing you can do is try and get her smell out as much as possible. Do you have a steam cleaner? Then after you clean, get his scent all over the place he marks.
There are different ways to do that without spreading poo….ewww.! One member used a damp cloth and rubbed it on her bunny and then rubbed the cloth in the areas her bunny liked to mark. I also have recently read that you can do the same thing with just with your hands. I know i have brushed my bunnies and then taken their fur and rubbed it all over the area they would more likely mark. I leave the fur there for a couple of days.
Let us know if this works at all. This is definitely a trial and error method.
For now I moved some stuff around in that corner and used antimicrobial febreeze to try to kill off some of the scent because I figured that was what was keeping him there. I’m charging my cordless vac in that corner too… I didn’t notice if there was any mess in the corner before I came up to bed… but I did notice he ate a birthday candle
Jen, I’m really sorry to read that Bailey isn’t feeling well. I hope she feels better soon.
Big {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{healing vibes}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} from me and Sable
Aww poor Bailey! I’m sure she’ll be back to the stink eye ASAP though – I remember when Raymond and Kramer got in a fight and Raymond had that cut eyelid..he STILL managed a stink eye! Bailey is probably just taking a mini-break from stink eyeing She’s sooo lucky to have a mom like you to take care of her – no one could do a better job!
Aww poor Bailey! I hope she gets better soon! I watch the webcams too sometimes,bunnys are awesome even just laying around lol! Sending healing vibes from me and my buns.
BB – Hows that lil spunk rat of yours?
I hope she doing ok.
Dawn xx
How’s your little Bailey doing tonight? Sorry to hear she has been feeling down. Healing thoughts from Jacki and Noble.
its good to see that everybody cares
THANKS EVERYONE! She is becoming spunky again!! I have been waiting to see if the drug was helping and it is! WHEW! She still doesn’t have full control over her left leg, but it’s been less than the week, so maybe it will continue to improve. I’ve gotten her a low litterbox and pillows and a ramp to help her get in and out of it. So far she can jump in pretty well, though sometimes her left leg catches a bit. But she’s doing so much better strength wise. She went from barely being able to walk, to just having problems with her left leg, then holding her left leg up to walk, and now she is using both back legs. Still weaker on the left side, but wow…such an improvement in just a few days.
She will be on Ponazuril for two months this time instead of one, but she will have to have blood test since drugs in the past for e.cuniculi have been known to cause deadly side affects (long term use). Soooooooo I can only hope that this will cure her, or at keep the disease at bay, OR that I can use Ponazuril forever without side affects. Otherwise, if those things don’t happen, the outcome looks grim. But for now – I am just so happy that she is getting her strength back, and she even growled at Rucy and gave her the stink eye again. Plus she started digging in her litterbox again. It’s a good sign that her normal spunky personality is returning. Yippeee!!
That is such great news Jen …. Bailey is a lil fighter!
Growling bunny …. hehe … you know I have never heard a bunny growl before.
She is a darling. She a lookin at me now (her pic is on my notice board)… I could just imagine her giving Rucy a huge stink eye. Mr Luey does that to my new boyfriend!
Dawn xx
Thanks Dawn! That’s funny about Luey. I guess this is a good way to test out the new man! Can he handle the power of bunny stinky eye? If so, he could be a keeper.
(I’m assuming you understand "keeper", i have to be careful when exchanging slang – it may not make sense on the other side of the world)
wow 3 people online at the same time a record!!
You know my new man does not like bunnies … Oh crap! He cannot understand why I have Luey as a pet, and not only that why he is inside the house. Oh heck, this man needs educating big time.
A Keeper! Hmmm … maybe I am a bit thick (rephrase that I am thick!) LOL. What the heck is a keeper? LOL.
Dawn xx
HAHAHHAHA!! I am so happy that I get to pass on some slang stuff. It’s usually me asking…what does that mean to those outside of the U.S. It’s so funny because right after i wrote keeper, I thought, hmmm…I wonder if that could be translated the wrong way – like "zoo keeper". But when someone here says "he’s a keeper", means he’s a good man – one you’d one to KEEP around.
So now I can imagine you saying keeper in your Australian accent – "He’s a Keepa"
u should get on chat binky me and dawn are on
I’m so happy to hear that Bailey is improving! What a relief!
I find it kind of comical to hear you happy about her hostility towards Rucy, in a weird kind of way… but so long as it’s returning to her usual personality, that’s all thet really matters!
sevyn. LOL, I know, who would be happy to have a hostile bunny? I tried bonding them for 8 months, before I just decided it was less stressful on us all. Rucy was fine, but Bailey was just way too bossy with Rucy, and though Rucy was being passive, she was unhappy having Bailey boss her around so much. So now Rucy is happier and can do what she wants when she wants without diva bossy Bailey telling her when and where she can lie down, eat and poop. But Bailey has never been happy not being able to boss her around, so many times she’ll chase her from the other side (when Rucy is out running around) and Bailey will stick her nose at her and growl at her, and sometimes they’ll scratch at each through the fencing.
They do lie near each other often, (through the fencing)and eat near each other, but that’s the only time they get along. Bailey packs a nasty bite and has really hurt Rucy before, so I we have built the pen in a way that they can sniff each other but can’t bite.
So, the fact that she is back to her old bossy diva self may not make Rucy and Jack happy, it makes me happy to see her have enough energy and spunk to get diva-ish again.
Sending healing wishes Bailey’s way – any update on her condition?
Awww, poor baby! I hope she will get better and soon. I can only imagine what she feels and how hard it is to see it day to day. I will pray and send all love to Bailey.
Well, I’m sad to report that she just seems to be getting slowly weaker again. She has an appointment again on Monday to do blood tests etc. I have started doing a particualr t-touch metho on her recommended by Dr. Harvey, as well as some physical therapy to help prevent her muscles from stiffening up. It helps at the time to get her moving, but each day, it’s like starting over again to loosen her muscles and get her more active. On Monday, I will also be discussing acupuncture with the vet and set up an appointment if necessary.
I’ve made soft ramps to help her up to her litterbox, because she stopped using it as much. It is hard to watch her struggle to scratch her ears, she usually just shakes her head. She had regained her ability to scratch her own ears, but now she can’t anymore.
e.cuniculi sucks!
Oh poor baby!!!!!!!!! me and cookie send lots of healing vibes!!!!!!
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I am so sorry to hear about Bailey. e. cuniculi is an awful thing for a bunny to contract. I am sending more healing vibes her way and also am keeping you in my thoughts BB. If you need anything, don’t hesitate to ask. Has Dr. Harvey suggested using an echinacea & goldenseal tincture or have you tried it? At one time I know that used to be a treatment the shelter here used along with the medication prescribed by the vet. I know you’ve been through a lot of things to help Bailey out, I do not recall what all has been done over the years, so please forgive me if my memory is not as good as it used to be.
oo I’m so sad to hear that Bailey isn’t getting stronger 🙁 I really hope they will have some good suggestions for you tomorrow at the vet. Are you going to have to travel down to Chabold now that Dr Harvey isn’t at VCA anymore?
Sweet BB …. Oh geeezzz your poor lil putzy fur face … sorry to hear Bailey babe is not well again. Give her lotsa cuddles from myself and my four furry faces .
Get well SOOOOOOONNNNNNN Bailey Girl.
Dawn xx
Bailey Bum, get better soon, Brian Bumstar needs his american relatives all happy and tip toppety, and Miss Bettie Bean sends Bailey a – leap about a bit, dive under the nose, and flop out next to – HUGE bit of bunny love! (it’s the best kind!!)
what is that? I have never heard of it. What does it do to them and how do you know if they have it? Connor has a head tilt but the vet said it was probally from being blind.
How is Bailey doing?
Thanks everyone for your continued support! Her tests came back with no major problems to her organs (due to the meds), but we’ll need to test again in a month. My husband is in charge of her care right now while I am out of town, but the day before I left, she seemed to be a bit stronger, so maybe all the PT and massages are helping.
I’ll keep you updated.
mediserpa – e.cuniculi is an incurable parasitic disease that affects a bunny’s nervous system, brain, and/or kidneys. One of every four rabbits are tested positive though not all will develop symptoms. Testing positive doesn’t mean a rabbit has it, just means a rabbit has been exposed – only time willl tell if it actually contracted it. Symptoms very from rabbit to rabbit. Some get head tilt, some get hind quarter paralysis or full blown paralysis. I noticed Bailey getting weaker, and so I have done everything I could to prevent it from getting worse.
Head tilt can happen for many other reasons too, but if you are worried, you can always have your bunny tested, and treated with drugs that are supposed to help kill off the parasites (sometimes with great results long term or short term – again how a bunny responds is also individual.)