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    • DanaNM
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        VACCINE UPDATE: Sept 29, 2021

        EXCITING NEWS!

        Medgene Receives Emergency Use Authorization for RHDV2 Vaccine

        Looks like the US produced vaccine will be available very soon! This is really important news because it means that vaccination should be available more readily very soon!

        Other info:

        The virus continues to spread throughout North America, with many more cases this year so far (reaching as far north as Yellowstone National Park).  It is likely the virus will continue to spread rapidly throughout the spring, timed with wild rabbit reproduction and movement of insects and scavenging animals.
        Vaccine Background: RHDV vaccines are available in Europe, but with the approval of the US vaccine these will no longer be available for import. Additionally, the vaccines that are currently available for import (Eravac and Filivac) require the use of live rabbits to create, which is an ethical concern. The company that is working to produce the US vaccine has said it will NOT require live rabbits to produce, so this would be a huge benefit.

        More past info:

        As many may have heard, there is currently a rapidly spreading outbreak of RHDV2 in the southwestern US and Northern Mexico. There are links to detailed information from the House Rabbit Society at the bottom. Check with your local state departments of wildlife and agriculture, as well as your local rabbit organizations for information specific to your region. For those outside of the outbreak area, the main concern is contaminated feed. The short answer to this is that the virus can be transmitted through feed (hay, forage, veggies, etc.), but most hay is over a year old (Oxbow has something about this on their site), and the Binky Bunny store has confirmed that its suppliers are outside of the outbreak area and the hay, feed, etc. has been stored securely, so is safe to use. Overall hay is probably one of the least likely sources, but you should known your hay source any whether there is currently an outbreak in that area.

        I helped the rescue in my area put together this info for their newsletter, which is focused on southern California but should be helpful regardless:
        The California Department of Fish and Wildlife reported that Rabbit Hemorrhagic Disease Virus (RHDV2) was found in a dead rabbit in the Palm Springs area.  The RHDV2 virus has been spreading through the Southwest (Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, Nevada, Northern Mexico) and has finally reached California.  Because it is in the wild rabbit population, we can assume that RHDV2 will become common in California. We recommend that you consider any changes you may need to make in light of RHD.

        RHD only infects rabbits and other members of the lagomorph family.  You, your family and other pets will not get this disease, but you can spread it inadvertently, so awareness is key.

        RHD is highly contagious and resistant to environmental conditions. It spreads through rabbit contact with a diseased rabbit’s fur, feces, urine, bedding, or direct contact. It also spreads via feces from other animals (scavenging predators, including birds) or insects that have had contact with a diseased rabbit, or contact with a contaminated surface or food. The virus can survive for at least 3 months in the carcass of a dead rabbit or dried on cloth. On other surfaces the virus may survive from 1 to 2 weeks, depending on conditions.  It is resistant to high temperatures (it can survive 1 hour at 122 degrees F) and to freezing.

        Rabbits housed outdoors are at the highest risk. Even if no wild rabbits are in your area, insects (especially flies) are able to transmit the virus. A single fly speck can contain enough virus to infect a rabbit. There is no treatment for this virus and mortality rates are very high, so prevention is crucial.

        Symptoms can include difficulty breathing, bleeding, loss of appetite, lethargy, fever, jaundice, seizures, and sudden death. Most rabbits die within hours to days after exposure, while asymptomatic carriers can shed virus for over a month. The virus impairs the blood’s ability to clot, and death is most often caused by liver failure, or internal or external bleeding. Any sudden death should be suspected as RHDV at this point.

        A new vaccine is under emergency use authorization in the US, please contact your vet to discuss importing the vaccine. There is more information on this process in the HRS links below.

        The good news is that the precautions that reduce the chance of myxomatosis will also reduce the chance of RHD.  Here are things you can do to reduce the risk to your rabbit and help slow the spread of this disease in our wild and domestic rabbits:

        1. If you find a sick or dead rabbit, do not handle or move it. Call you local wildlife authority and state department of agriculture to report and find out what to do.
        2. Housing your rabbit indoors is the single most important step you can take to protect your rabbit from this disease. If you cannot do that, then screen outdoor hutches to keep flies and other insects away from your rabbit. Exercise your rabbit indoors. If you cannot do that limit outdoor time and use fly prevention.
        3. Remove your shoes when entering your home, and wash your hands before and after handling your rabbit.
        4. Ask your vet about external parasite control. Vectra3D protects against flies and mosquitos and can be dosed correctly by your vet (this is off-label use and must be administered by a vet to ensure the safety of the rabbit). Never use Frontline on rabbits.
        5. Avoid contact with other rabbits. If you have friends with rabbits, or visit an area with wild rabbits, change your clothes and shoes after visiting their homes.  Wash your clothes in hot water and dry on high.  Let your shoes sit for several days to 2 weeks in areas away from your rabbit.
        6. If you have a dog or a cat, avoid situations where they may come into contact with a wild bunny or dead wild rabbit; leashes outdoors are recommended.  You may want to wash your dogs paws when they enter the house.
        7. Tell your vet if you want to vaccinate your rabbit. HRS website provides info to help your vet import the vaccine.
        8. Stop foraging for wild greens if you are near an outbreak area and know the source of your feed. The rates of infection through food are not known, but contaminated feed has been suspected in cases where rabbits housed indoors in urban environments got sick.

        Here are some resources for additional information:

        Map of confirmed cases: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?fbclid=IwAR27ZBZ1KjbXa-tuBa7QvoeVXPSWBSC3ECn2kYYAnEQpA4-4MnYAqWDvsyw&mid=1OPrtnwm1Bk-CmjW3pPCpzEw1sv2S_OPC&ll=39.06356966942756%2C-107.75364545&z=4

        Detailed info from the House Rabbit Society: https://rabbit.org/rhdv/
        Handout that can be shared: https://rabbit.org/articles/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/hrs_rhdv_v5.pdf
        CA Dept of Food and Agriculture:
        https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/ahfss/Animal_Health/pdfs/RabbitHemorrhagicDisease.pdf

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      • pinkiemarie
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          Ugh. So on the topic of feed, if it’s all over a year old now then great but what about later this summer? The disease will definitely spread more and more and it never occurred to me that the hay could be infected, so what do we do if and when this becomes endemic? Maybe an American company will begin making vaccines? How the vaccine itself is produced is so sad but evidently it can’t be done another way. You seem very in the know and if you hear more please keep us updated!


        • DanaNM
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            Not sure what state you are in, but the best thing you can do is contact your vet to see about importing the vaccine (there are guidelines on this on the HRS site). If you are in a state that hasn’t had any cases, you won’t be able to get it yet, but states with cases can.

            There is very little data on how likely hay is to be a source of transmission. I think the fear is that a sick rabbit might get into a hay barn, or sick rabbits could be in the hay field. It is best to communicate with your supplier to see where they are and how old the hay is. In MOST conditions, the virus will not survive more than 3 months, so in general hay is probably one of the lowest risk sources of transmission.

            There is a survey by Dr. Francis Harcourt-Brown of confirmed RHDV cases (https://www.harcourt-brown.co.uk/surveys/results-of-origin-of-rhd-infection/origin-of-rhdv-infection-in-domestic-rabbits), and about 80% of the cases had outdoor access. Since all rabbits get hay, it’s hard to tell what the risk is from hay, but it seems like if hay was the source there would be far more indoor cases.

            Knowing where the hay is grown and whether there is active outbreak in the area is really all you can do.

            There is another vaccine that is produced in vitro (so more ethically), but will not likely be approved for use in the US anytime soon because it contains live-weaked Myxo (which is not endemic most of the US, so they don’t want to risk introducing it). But bringing this vaccine up to vets etc. might help make it available.

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          • Meg
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              Yikes!!  I just read this and am worried about greens.  We’re in Maryland but basically all the greens you can buy at the store are from California, Arizona, or Mexico.  What are you all doing for this?  I can’t go to local markets due to COVID (we get groceries delivered instead) and don’t have the acres of farmland it would take to feed our bunny every day.


            • DanaNM
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                I’ve been sourcing locally, which for me is getting sketchy as the virus is now about 160 miles from us. If it gets any closer I will prob stop feeding greens until we get the vaccine (should be within a few weeks, woohoo!).

                If you can confirm your greens are sourced from Northern CA you should be OK.  A lot of lettuces and greens are grown in the Salinas valley, which is in the safe zone for now.

                A lot of folks I see are growing some things indoors using Aerogardens for their bunnies. Certainly would be able to be the full amount most of us feed, but enough to give them a little. Veggies are nice, but not absolutely essential, as hay is really the most important thing.

                Sorry I don’t have a great answer. 🙁 Knowing the specific growing location is really the only thing I can recommend.

                 

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              • Meg
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                  Thank you so much, DanaNM!  I did find that Organic Girl romaine is from Salinas at least these days.  I found a House Rabbit Society newsletter that recommends a lot of the same things you said (checking the source, trying to grow indoors), and also says this:

                  “Right now, we are recommending rabbit guardians wash vegetables thoroughly in a bowl for at least two minutes, changing the water several times.

                  Before making significant changes to your rabbit’s diet, such as deciding to eliminate feeding greens, talk with your veterinarian first.”

                  Thank you again and may all our bunnies stay healthy!


                • Moonlightbunny66
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                    I live in Canada. Do I need to be concerned about my rabbits getting this?


                  • DanaNM
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                      @Moonlightbunny Probably not at this time, but it’s something to keep an eye on, and if you feed veggies grown in CA or Mexico that should be taken into account. Since it has become established in wild rabbits in the US it will likely end up in Canada eventually, but in Australia it spread a lot more rapidly in arid regions, so it’s unclear how long it will take to get there. There were cases in Vancouver area late last year, but that spread seems to have stopped. This map shows most of the confirmed cases, you can click on each point to see when the case occurred: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?fbclid=IwAR27ZBZ1KjbXa-tuBa7QvoeVXPSWBSC3ECn2kYYAnEQpA4-4MnYAqWDvsyw&mid=1OPrtnwm1Bk-CmjW3pPCpzEw1sv2S_OPC&ll=39.06356966942756%2C-107.75364545&z=4

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                    • DanaNM
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                        Wanted to give a little update, this release from the Oregon Department of Agriculture mentions that:

                        “Currently, a US manufacturer is working with a University to develop a domestic, FDA approved, new-generation vaccine for RHDV. The vaccine would not require the use of live rabbits for vaccine production and could be scaled up much easier. Once the product is approved, anyone will be able to access the vaccine without special federal or state permission. A domestic vaccine may be available as soon as November 2020. ”

                        This is not soon enough for those of us in the outbreak area, but is very good news for the rest of the country, and great news for ongoing boosters in years to come. Also AMAZING that they are working on the humanely produced version!

                        Here’s the full text:

                        https://www.oregon.gov/oda/shared/Documents/Publications/AnimalHealth/RHDVFAQ.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2xDZvMZdPKoCINZtWFmlOPh374LjGvEkxYWNjFpCjrap4ufcG1GhSSckA

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                      • Moonlightbunny66
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                          @dananm Thank you so much! Where is a safe place to buy my veggies from? My mom has a garden that she said I can use the lettuce and kale for my rabbits. We do have a lot of wild rabbits here and they come and eat from the garden. I live in Ontario Canada so this should be okay, right? The garden won’t last forever though. And that’s good that they’re working on a vaccine. I feel so bad for all the bunnies and bunny owners who were affected by this. ):


                        • Moonlightbunny66
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                            Also can I still buy hay from the farm feed store here? Thanks.


                          • DanaNM
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                              Hay and pelleted food are very likely to be safe (and of course our bunnies NEED hay!). Technically they could be contaminated, but it’s very unlikely. Plus they are stored dry for long periods of time so that increases safety too. Oxbow has a statement up on their website about the safety of their products, and the Binky Bunny store has confirmed that all their suppliers are in safe areas.

                              A home garden would be great. 🙂 Other than that, most people are looking to get produce grown from anywhere outside the outbreak area (150 miles outside the outermost confirmed cases to be safe). The farther you are from where things are grown the harder it is to know exactly where it was grown, but Northern CA is currently safe, Souther CA is not. I wouldn’t get anything grown in Mexico.

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                            • Moonlightbunny66
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                                Thank you for helping me!!


                              • DanaNM
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                                  You’re very welcome! 🙂

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                                • Bernard2020
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                                    I bought some romaine lettuce and gave some to my rabbit yesterday. Today I just seen it was grown in North MX. Should I be worried?


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                                      It’s Green Giant  and it says they wash it, trim it,  and it’s ready to eat. I also washed it before I gave it to her. It said it was picked after 7/29/2020. I tried calling to get the exact city but due to covid they aren’t taking calls so I emailed them. I’m really worried, I thought it said it was grown in Salinas CA but it’s just distributed there. I gave it to her about 24 hours ago and so far she’s acting normal. Do you think she will be ok?


                                    • Moonlightbunny66
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                                        I just looked to see where my lettuce was grown. The brand is Andy Boy, it says it’s grown in Salinas California. This doesn’t look infected on the map. It’s okay to feed them? I can’t find where my carrots were grown the brand is “Farmers Market”, I just tried emailing. What a vague name…


                                      • DanaNM
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                                          @Bernard2020 , I would stop feeding that veg. Chances are it will be fine, but that is in the outbreak area. The risk from veggies is really not known, but since the virus is so resistant and “sticky”, it’s safest to just avoid veg from outbreak areas until your bun can be vaccinated.


                                          @Moonlightbunny
                                          Salinas CA is in a safe part of the state, so that should be fine.

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                                        • Moonlightbunny66
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                                            @DanaNM Thank you so much. I have bad anxiety, I wanna make sure the buns are safe.


                                          • Bernard2020
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                                              @DanaNM Phew! Thank you for easing my nerves 😁


                                            • Desert_Bunny
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                                                I got my bunny vaccinated about a month ago. Hopefully he is safe now.


                                              • DanaNM
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                                                  That’s great! Yes he should be good for a year until he’s due for his booster. 🙂 I got mine done a few weeks ago and it was SUCH a huge relief.

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                                                    Yes especially because I am out in the desert a lot and don’t want to bring anything like that back home.  I thought this was cute

                                                     


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                                                      Do I have anything to be worried about in NC?


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                                                        Also my first rabbit that lived outside died last summer is there any chance she got this disease? If not I have no idea why she dies she was only 2 years old and I took great care of her?!


                                                      • DanaNM
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                                                          It hasn’t been documented in NC yet, so at this time no. But it will likely spread throughout the US, so it’s something to pay attention to. Hopefully in the next year the vaccine will become more easily available from your vet. Currently vets can only get approval to import the vaccine if there is a documented case in your state.

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                                                            Hi everyone! I have a petition going for access to vaccines in North America and would appreciate signatures. With the new administration dealing with Covid I’m sure RHD is not the first thing being brought to their attention. I’ve already emailed the White House and reminded my senator but am hoping to get more signatures before I close this. Please share if you can!

                                                            https://www.change.org/bunnyvaccine


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                                                              Hi this gives me such anxiety and I hate that we can’t get the vaccine for our buns if there haven’t been active cases in your state.

                                                              I live in NYC but am originally from CT. I remember a few years ago there was an outbreak at a vets office in nyc but for some reason this doesn’t count towards an active case in the state. Does anyone know why?

                                                              hay… I know they say to know your sources but most of the hay I buy is from Washington state or Northern California. I’ve probably tried every hay brand available including locally grown and my bunny just won’t eat it. He would only eat Sierra valley hay and when they closed I had a very hard time finding something he wouldn’t sniff and hop away from.
                                                              thus virus seems to be in areas where hay is grown, so what should i do? I’ve heard storing it for 3 months before giving it to the bun makes it safer? I live in an apartment in Brooklyn so storing mass amounts of hay for 3 months ahead of time is difficult.

                                                               

                                                              lastly, what would need to happen to get a vaccine out sooner? Is there anyone working with the fda to try and make this happen? I only ask because scott Gottlieb (former commissioner of the fda) lives in the town next to where I grew up and pretty sure I know someone who is friends with his wife. If anyone knows who is trying to bring the vaccine to United States or has some information decks, I’d be happy to reach out and try to make this happen sooner.


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                                                                Most hay companies store the hay for an adequate amount of time before shipping it out to sell. You should ask the company what their practices are if that information is not given on their website.

                                                                If you look at the updated at the top (added April 2, 2021), there is a group currently working on getting an American-made vaccine.


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                                                                  I am a little nervous about new vaccines. The side effects are normally awful, and since they’re new, people often find out about the good and bad when they already have said vaccine. I don’t want any of this happening to my Jumping Jack. She’s too cute to be sick or die. Is there any way to get her immune without the vaccine, or any way to make her less likely to have it without the vaccine? Is there any way to maybe reduce the side effects when it does come out?


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                                                                    I have been trying to find this topic without luck. One year ago my bunny got his first injection. The only side effect I saw was some lethargy and a slight dip in his appetite. Both came back very fast. Just had his booster last week. This time there was no lethargy or loss of appetite. HOWEVER, his right front paw (same side as the injection on his shoulder) seemed…. compromised…. Curled up…. He was definitely favoring it. That lasted overnight and was gone the next day. Kind of scared me since he had a complete physical including nail trim. Called the Vet and they told me that was “normal.”    Well, he seemed less phased by his injection(s) than I was with my COVID shots!


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                                                                      The original post at the top has links to what you can do to reduce exposure (most importantly keeping rabbits indoors and practicing biosecurity measures), but the virus is so contagious and seems to be about 90% lethal, so vaccination is the best thing you can do, and the only thing that will give immunity. A single hair or fly spec carrying the virus can be enough to infect a rabbit.

                                                                      The current vaccines available are not new, they have been used in Europe for years and are much safer than the past ones. I’m not sure where you’re getting the “side effects are normally awful” information, because the current vaccines (Eravac and Filivac) have few to no side effects. But maybe you are referring to the one in development? We’ve vaccinated I think around 400 rabbits so far through clinics at the rescue I volunteer at (including seniors and young kits), and none of the rabbits have had side effects of note, other than seeming a little quieter than normal that evening. We did have 1 rabbit that seemed to be favoring one paw for a few hours the next day, as @Desert_Bunny noticed with her bun, and all was normal by the next day.

                                                                      I personally had all 4 of my buns vaccinated with Eravac, and all of them had no side effects, including my 12 year old.

                                                                      The vaccine in development will very likely not be using new technology, so I doubt there will be different side effects from the ones that are currently used.

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                                                                        “as @Desert_Bunny noticed with her bun, and all was normal by the next day.”

                                                                         

                                                                        My goodness! The vaccine gave me a gender change?  Nothing had changed the last time I checked! I better look again!


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                                                                          Haha oops!

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                                                                            I’m in Europe and have vaccinated my buns since October 2016, when we first got the vaccines that cover RVHD2. (Before that we vaccinated only against Myxomatosis and RVHD1).

                                                                            My buns never had any noticeable side effects from Eravac, Filavac or, last year, the new triple vaccine that cover all 3 diseases. One bun had a bit of sticky poop the day after his first shot of filavac, but it could have been unrelated.

                                                                            RVHD2 is a real threat. Several show rabbit breeders in my area lost most of their breeding stock to it. (I’m not a fan of show breeding, but they reported to the local Facebook rabbit RVHD2-map group). Now everybody vaccinates, because the disease has become more or less endemic, just like myxomatosis has been since the 1960ies-1970ies. RVHD2 has even spread up to the near-Arctic, where wild rabbits can’t live due to the extreme winter cold, because it affects and is spread by wild hares.

                                                                            Cylap, which is used in Australia for RVHD, has more side effects than the European vaccines.

                                                                             

                                                                             


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                                                                                I only see two options. Much like with COVID. Except with a bunny, we all are dealing with a little animal who has no choice or control. Don’t get the vaccine. Who wants to go that route? For the entire life of your bunny? Worrying every day? Worse yet, since it’s such a hideous disease, how would anyone feel if their bunny died from RHD2.

                                                                                I was sketchy about the first one a year ago, but I did it anyway. This time around it was scarier since the “lame paw” issue popped up. Since he had just come back from an exam (which I witnessed), a nail trim and the shot, a lot of things went through my mind. And of course I could find NOTHING on the internet about the paw problem. Hardly slept that night because he wasn’t jumping and doing the usual bunny things. By the time I could call the next morning, the problem was going away.

                                                                                 

                                                                                GET THE VACCINE!   (The booster only cost me like $25!)


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                                                                                Does anyone know if the vaccine will be available in Canada? It would be nice to prevent infecting more rabbits here before it spreads all over. ): I keep worrying about it every day, even though I can’t find any reported cases in my province. I’m still scared that it will spread here soon. I want to protect my bunnies.


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                                                                                  EXCITING NEWS!

                                                                                  https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/AHFSS/Animal_Health/RHD.html

                                                                                  Looks like the US produced vaccine will be available very soon! This is really important news because it means that vaccination should be available more readily very soon!

                                                                                  I think CA kind of jumped the gun on announcing this but the vaccine won’t be restricted to just CA usage.

                                                                                   

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                                                                                    Some more info on the new vaccine!

                                                                                    Medgene Receives Emergency Use Authorization for RHDV2 Vaccine

                                                                                    RHDV2

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                                                                                      Is getting the vaccine safe for rabbits for is there a chance of death the closest known case to me 5 and a half hours away, not in the state but when it becomes available I would want them to get it unless the chance of death is too much.


                                                                                    • DanaNM
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                                                                                        In the main “challenge” trial of 105 rabbits none of them had any serious side effects (no deaths), and had 100% protection from RHDV. I think 2 rabbits had minor swelling at the injection site and some mild fatigue, which sounds similar to the other vaccines from Europe.

                                                                                        So yes it sounds very safe and effective!

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                                                                                      • BunnyBabe
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                                                                                          Hey everyone

                                                                                          This outbreak has me really worried. I have four bunnies, and my current vet told me that all of my bunnies would need to get two shots at 80$ a piece. Currently, I am a full-time student, so I am taking care of my bunnies with my leftover financial aid, and 90% of it just went to vet bills for two of my rabbits. So, I literally can not afford the cost of the vaccine. Does anyone know if there is a way to get help with the cost or a vet in North Carolina that takes bunnies that may be cheaper?


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                                                                                              This has been a huge concern with me as well! I have four rabbits as well, and the vets around me that offer the vaccine are all charging around 120 per rabbit, because they want to do an exam first. $80 for the second shot does seem really high though, I think most vets are charging more for the first one that includes the exam, and then between $25-40 for the second dose. Frustrating because I know it only costs $15 per dose from the supplier.

                                                                                              My best suggestion is to reach out to rabbit rescues near you and see if they are working with any vets to do vaccine clinics. The cost still may be a bit high unfortunately. The fact that the vaccine is still under emergency use authorization means that it’s harder to host vaccine clinics and fewer vets have it.

                                                                                              You also might talk to the vets and see if they offer any payment plans or would accept care credit, so you could pay it off gradually instead of having to do it all at once.

                                                                                              There is also a Facebook group that has been sharing lots of vaccine clinic info: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rabbithemorrhagicdiseasenewsnetwork/?multi_permalinks=5197949980238721&notif_id=1647313173242006&notif_t=group_highlights&ref=notif

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                                                                                                Hey, I will definitely try and reach out to local rescues. Thank you!


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                                                                                                Found this webinar from Medgene on their vaccine, lots of good information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecEUqvKDb0g

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                                                                                                  I just wanted to share here that all 4 of my bunnies (ages 2, 4, 6, and 13) got their first Medgene vaccine dose yesterday and they did amazingly! I’m so relieved that they will finally be protected again soon (they got an Eravac dose 2 years ago)!

                                                                                                  They were unhappy in the car (4 hours roundtrip!) but started eating right away when we got home and are all acting normal today. The vet who ran the clinic said she had vaccinated about 100 rabbits so far and none had any bad reactions, and only 1 had minor lethargy the next day which resolved in 48 hours.

                                                                                                  In the webinar I shared above, at the end there is a Q &A and one of the organizers said they vaccinated all of their rescue buns (many of which had serious medical issues, and one who was 14!), and they all did great.

                                                                                                  The representative from Medgene (in the webinar) also mentioned they formulated the vaccine with safety in mind, which is one of the reasons for the booster at 3 weeks. There are formulations that don’t need a booster, but those generally are more likely to cause negative reactions.

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                                                                                                • Ellie from The Netherlands
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                                                                                                    I’m so happy that vaccines are becoming available across the pond as well! It worried me for a long time: it’s a dreadful disease and so contagious 🙁

                                                                                                    Our bunnies get the 3 vaccine combo Nobivac Myxo-RHD plus, which is a once a year vaccine now. Before that they got Nobivac Myxo-RHD once a year and since 2017 Eravac against RHD2 twice a year.

                                                                                                    The Eravac had logistics issues because it had a short shelf life and had to be refrigerated. The vets ended up planning all bunnies on the same day, giving them their RHD2 shots in a row. I wasn’t really happy with that, because that may spread the disease itself, but luckily it went well. Now there’s the new vaccine that combines all 3.

                                                                                                    I’m happy that there have been so many improvements, and I hope that this will help more bunnies worldwide!

                                                                                                    We haven’t seen severe side effects from the vaccinations. Sometimes they were a bit less active the day after, but that’s the same for us with our flu shots or corona shots. Breintje just wanted more cuddles, which were happily provided, and Owen and Molly were slightly less destructive for a day.


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                                                                                                      Hello everyone.

                                                                                                      I have a bunny mother with 6 babies. Everything was fine. Mother was weaning. Littles ones are roaming. One morning, I saw the mother to have diarrhea all over her play pen. It is summer, a weird summer this year. But I gave her cooler whole day. Gave water and good grass. Here grass is locally grown. So with change of season, we have to change the grass type. Mother is 3 years old. She is well habituated and healthy with both grass types. Which was Timothy and bermuda. Then we took her to a vet, she was treated for diarrhea with an injection. She was very weak but fortunately had an appetite to fill her stomach. She recovered by the evening. Now she is in good shape. But unfortunately when we came back home, one baby bunny found dead with diarrhea.

                                                                                                      the other babies had to drink milk. I started letting them stay with their mother alternative days. I could not allow Everyday as they are not allowing her to lie down and she needed rest. Also they are 10 weeks old already. But still they got a chance to drink milk from their mother at times. One week later, the babies started developing symptoms.

                                                                                                      1. Suddenly shaking off one side of hand and leg and falling down.

                                                                                                      2. Smaller poop

                                                                                                      3. Lowered appetite

                                                                                                      4. Lowered mobility

                                                                                                      We don’t have good doctors here. There is a government hospital near but we have to diagnose and tell them. Because we are experienced than them. They simply give some simethocone drops and send for every disease. And they don’t know what and what not to use on bunnies. They treat same for dogs and cows.

                                                                                                      So literally we have to identify and learn the treatment. Then ask doctors for confirmation and prescription. So the chances of mistakes are high.

                                                                                                      Last night I lost another baby bunny fighting with severe weakness, pain, loss of mobility, appetite for 4 days. He was prescribed to be given diarrhea medication as his first symptom was loose and slimy stool. 3 days I continued this medication. He showed no improvement and he died last night.

                                                                                                      Now 4 other babies are left. They are having smaller poop. They are treated for diarrhea past week. Ad all of them developed symptoms and had to be treated. They are fine for a while. But now one baby bunny have a poop brown dribble on the blanket. I’m actually having them on bed to monitor properly and changing sheets 4 times a day. And they don’t fall off, they can jump safely, it’s low hight. So i looked at his anus after seeing dribble. His anus is a bit wound like. Not like other bunnies. A but sour or ruptured or swollen. I stopped treating with diarrhea medication. But I don’t understand what to do next. I don’t want to loose others. Please help.


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                                                                                                        Hi Venkata!

                                                                                                        The topic of intentional breeding of rabbits is prohibited on these forums, so most of our members have very little experience with baby buns. There isvanother forum called Rabbits Online that has a forum section dedicated to breeding questions: https://www.rabbitsonline.net/

                                                                                                        That said, baby buns are very sensitive, and if they get true diarrhea, they need treatment asap. There is a common parasite called coccidia that causes diarrhea which often is fatal in very young buns. It’s treatable with antibiotics and swift fluid replacement.

                                                                                                        At 10 weeks, the babies should nolonger need milk. They do not have to be housed with their mum, rabbits only feed their young once or twice per day. Once the babies are 6 weeks or so, its exhausting for them mum to be around them all the time, but its still important for them to be with their siblings.

                                                                                                        Rabbits can start puberty as early as at 12 weeks, which means they need to be separated at that time.

                                                                                                         


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                                                                                                          Thank you, I wasn’t breeding. I happened to have 2 rescued bunnies who cannot be spayed or neutered because of lack of rabbit savy vets anywhere around or near my state. They are free roam in two different rooms and one day accidentally the rooms were not properly closed which allowed bunny to get into pregnancy. And I’m keeping them all and caring for them for my life time. I cannot even thinking of giving my babies to anyone. Most of the people in India cannot afford or don’t know how to take care of a bunny. So I’m pretty sure they will kill them faster.

                                                                                                          The baby bunnies are fine now. Poop recovered to normal.

                                                                                                          Expecting it to be helpful to others, this is what I have done

                                                                                                          1. Separated from healthy ones.

                                                                                                          2. Gave them safe antibiotics

                                                                                                          3. Simethecone for pain relief and bloat

                                                                                                          4. Vitamins once a day 0.2ml

                                                                                                          5. Hydrated with electrol liquid mixed in water.

                                                                                                          Constant eye, I had them on my bed since a week. With litter pads, litter boxes, water, food. Such that every second I can see their activity. I lied down all the time to be accessible to them. I only woke up to bath, pee, poop or fresh up.

                                                                                                          Everyone don’t have to do it. But that’s how much it takes to save baby bunnies.

                                                                                                          Observation:

                                                                                                          0.3ml of simethicone 4 to 5 times a day does more magic than 1ml once a day.

                                                                                                          I would do same but increase the dosage for adult bunnies.

                                                                                                          Thank you very much for your support.


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                                                                                                              Hi Venkata, thanks for the info and welcome to the forum!

                                                                                                              This thread is specifically about Rabbit Hemorrhagic Disease (RHDV2) in North America, so I don’t think your information will be easy to find for people who are interested. You are welcome to create a new topic and share your information again if you would like to though. I think it would fit well into either the “House Rabbit Q&A” or “Diet & Care” sections. No need to if you don’t want to, just mentioning it because I know the forum format can be confusing to new members sometimes. 🙂

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                                                                                                          • Bam
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                                                                                                              Oops litters do happen. It’s just intentional breeding that this sute doesn’t want to support.

                                                                                                              I’m so glad they’re doing better! It is very difficult to care for baby buns, they are (as yiu have noticed) very fragile. It is extra difficult in places where there are no rabbit vets. You are obviously doing a great job.

                                                                                                              Thank you very much for your tips! They’re very valuable! There are many, many places where there are no rabbit-savvy vets.


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                                                                                                                SEE THE LATEST INFO on RHDV AS OF 5/9/2023

                                                                                                                https://rabbit.org/resources/rhdv/

                                                                                                                This is a great resource about current infection data plus vaccine update and prevention advice. 

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