Please help! Something is wrong with my bunny’s nose and ears! It’s peeling and scaly!

[Troubledbunnymom]

Okay my poor baby boy has a wound on his nose and his ears are a little scaly and ruff to the touch. Is that ear mites?!

I’m not sure what happened with the nose because yesterday it was fine and now it has a wound and is peeling off.

I isolated him for now since I don’t want my other bunnies getting sick. The vet is out of the country and will be back next month. There are no other vets that are familiar with bunnies.

 

What can I do? Please any suggestions please.

[Sr. Melangell]

I’m no expert, I’m just wondering if a bunny can have Eczema, if they can maybe someone can give you some advice on what to do until your vet gets back, sometimes scabs appearing from nowhere on us and animals, so I was just wondering if it could be Eczema, because I had a dog and he got it, I’m not saying it is Eczema, is Bunny sneezing?

[Troubledbunnymom]

No, my bunny is not sneezing. He is still eating normally and playing with his toys. His pee looks normal as well and the poop is normal sized for his bunny size. It looks painful and when I tried to clean his nose he flinches away.

[Sarita]

Well, I would take a chance and see if one of the other vets can look at it and possibly treat it….

[Bam]

I think Sarita is right. This needs to be seen to by a vet. The nose looks a bit like rabbit syphilis. It’s curable but it requires vet care. This definitely looks like Something you shouldn’t try and manage at home.
We’d be very happy for updates on this.

[Roberta]

I am with Sarita and bam on this, a y vet in an emergency. If we can look things up online and make phone calls so can the vet. Make the appointment and tell them you will email the pics through before hand to give them time to research.

[LBJ10]

Given that it is affecting the ears, I’m guessing some kind of mites. We aren’t vets though, so we cannot diagnose your bunny. If the emergency vet is unfamiliar with rabbits, then at the very least they can prescribe some revolution to see if it clears things up. As Bam suggested though, it could be something more serious that would require specialized treatment.

[Troubledbunnymom]

I tried, but the other vets keep on turning away my bunny. One even suggested for mercy killing so my bunny won’t suffer. I’m like my bunny is acting fine, eating without any problems and drinking his water.

Will update on what happens to my baby bunny.

[Roberta]

Good grief, no wonder you don’t want to see the other vets. Do you have access to products like Revolution, you have to be very careful what you use as some products are harmful to rabbits. Revolution puppy and kitten is safe and you just apply it to the back of the neck. It treats mane and mites. Do the scaly spots on the ears look inflammed ?

[Roberta]

You will probably need to treat your other rabbits too. Have they been scratching ?

[Roberta]

This is definitely a treatable condition so don’t listen to the one that suggested putting to sleep. I am just wondering if neosporin or similar would ease any discomfort.

[Roberta]

There is an online vet service you can post the pics to, you have to pay by credit card but they might be able to suggest something. What part of the world are you in ?

[LBJ10]

Not sure where this member is Roberta. You have to buy Revolution from a vet in the US. There shouldn’t be any reason the vet wouldn’t sell it to her though.

[Roberta]

My thoughts too LBJ and I have the dosage charts. I am in a group with lots of bunny vet people, I am going to drop the pics there and see what I can find out. Anything is better than what those other vets are suggesting.

[Roberta]

Hang in there TBM got calls going out online to vets and techs.

[Roberta]

Another possibility suggested is ringworm and I must admit it makes a lot of sense.
rminta Chicka 1:04pm Jul 12
Could be ringworm…I would treat for both since you can do them without a prescription and the treatments are pretty harmless if it’s not what the rabbit has. Revolution and the equivalent of Betadine, watered down and applied to the affected areas once a day. If it’s ringworm the scaly skin needs to be removed before applying the Betadine. Need to make sure the rabbit is getting a proper diet too to help improve it’s immune system.

[Troubledbunnymom]

Sorry for not answering. I had to go to try another vet, but they said no as well so I had to go home. As of now I’ve been to 19 vets and all of them refused to see my bunny. I’m feeling dreadful.

Now I’m monitoring my bunny and he still is acting fine, but the peeling on his nose is getting a little bigger and now he won’t drink his water because his nose will dip on the water bowl. I had to put a those plastic water bottles so he can drink from the spout.

Roberta I will try Revolution, but I can’t recall ever seeing this from any Vet or pet shops. I’m from the Philippines and trying to find a Vet that handles exotic pets is 1 in a hundred. My other bunnies are not scratching at all. I checked their ears, mouths, their butts and all are clean. I tried an online Vet, but the one who handles bunnies is unavailable yet.

LBJ10 I’m from the Philippines.

I’ll try Betadine, and I just got a call from my Vets clinic and they’re requesting me bring my bunny because they were able to find a Vet willing to look at my bunny. Thank heavens.

Will post later on what the vet will say. Thank you guys.

[Roberta]

No worries. Hang in there and if any other vets suggest putting him to sleep give them a punch in the face from me and grab your bunny and leave. We will get you through this.

[Roberta]

You can order Revolution online from Ebay and other places. Might take a few days to get there but start with the betadine solution, I would apply it a couple of times first to soften the scale rather than trying to remove it dry.

[Roberta]

Worst case if you can’t get the Revolution I will buy some and airmail it to you.

[Bam]

Ivermectin is also a possible treatment, if you can get that in the Philippines. There is a type that’s orally administered, not injected.

It could be sarcoptic mange. It kind of looks like that.(I could only see the pics on my phone earlier). It’s highly treatable. It seems to be rather common in your part of the world. You can read about it here:
http://www.bio.miami.edu/hare/furloss.html

Stupid vets =( How awful.

[jerseygirl]

I’m sorry you’re having such a hard time with vets. So frustrating!

A friend of mine shared this Filipino rabbit page on her rabbit Facebook page recently. Maybe some people on there can direct you to a good vet.

http://facebook.com/rabbitawarenessph

I agree it looks rather like mange mite. What is it like around his nails? That is another typical area you’ll see fur loss and flakes with mange mite infection.

[jerseygirl]

Ideally you’ll want to find Revolution for kittens and puppies. I’ve only found the ones for dogs available there so far. Surely they’d have kitten/puppy formula too???

[Roberta]

You can use the dog Revolution, I have the dosage chart. It’s a 120 ml solution as opposed to a 60 ml solution for cats snd bunnies. I buy the 8 month 10 kg dog pack that comes with measuriing vial and needless application syringes to measure doses. I am trying to convince my Rescue that is thd best way to buy it.

[jerseygirl]

Actually, these were the 60mg/ml strength Roberta. This one is 0.5ml per ampule. Kitten and puppy is 0.25ml right? Maybe its available in some pet store there also??

http://www.kaymu.ph/pfizer-revolution-for-dogs-0-5ml-selamectin-27677.html

[Roberta]

I am sure it would be available off the shelf at one of the vets or pet supplies.

[Troubledbunnymom]

Roberta Thank you for the offer for airmail, but the vet who is currently looking at my bunny said it’s not necessary.

bam thank you for that link, I’m reading it now and waiting for the laboratory results.

jerseygirl that facebook link is very helpful thank you.

Just to let you guys know my boy bunny is an unexpected rescue bunny. He was going to be eaten if no one will buy him; he had a tag on his ear. I didn’t know that, but he looked so sad that I just bought him. I got him to a vet and the vet confirmed it because he has a tag on his ear which means he was going to be dinner. My bunny was very healthy until this peeling thing.

My bunny is now confined at the vet clinic since they want to observe him and they don’t want to take any risks. They used frontline on him, not sure about that since I think that was for dogs? They have Revolution, but said Frontline is better. I have to trust them for now. I’m going to visit my bunny today and my two other bunnies look sad they keep on sniffing my boy bunnies cage. I think they’re trying to find him.

Will post updates, thank you guys for your answers and positive vibes for my bunny.

[LBJ10]

No no no no no!!!! Not Frontline!

[jerseygirl]

Ditto. Not frontline.

Contact the vet as soon as possible and get them to look into ways to reduce effect of frontline. It is toxic to rabbits.

I have heard of some adult rabbits coping ok once it was given so I hope hope hope this is the case for your bunny.

{{{vibes}}}

[LBJ10]

Call your vet and tell them to wash it off. Hopefully it isn’t too late!

[LBJ10]

Here is an old thread that you started Jerseygirl: https://binkybunny.com/FORUM/tabid/54/aft/123798/Default.aspx

Did you ever find out if any of that was effective?

[jerseygirl]

No.

I can only think of a bath and subQ fluids that possibly could help. I really don’t know.

ETA: Signs can start within a week of receiving the dose.

[Troubledbunnymom]

Oh no! I’m calling them right now and going to the clinic Asap! Sorry if I won’t answer back, but I will as soon as possible.

[lorree]

Sitting here with my fingers crossed for u and ur bunny
I hope he’s ok

[Bam]

Idiots!!!! I hope you can get through to them. Keeping my fingers crossed for your bun.

[Roberta]

Did you manage to stop the vet from using Frontline ? I hope your bunny is ok, Frontline is deadly to rabbits and if these vets had taken the time to listen and research they would know that.

[Roberta]

If you can wash the affected area quickly before it gets into the system in may be ok. Fingers crossed.

[Bam]

A good bath with shampoo would be the best remedy. There’s no antidote. Not all rabbits that come into contact with fipronil (Frontline) have seizures and/or die from it, but the risk is significant enough for the manufacturers to have put a warning label on it saying never to use it on rabbits and vets should know this. But awareness is of course higher in places where rabbits are common as pets.

Fipronil is very good for killing off mites, that’s true. Problem is it may kill the host (rabbit) too, which is a highly unwanted side-effect.

[Sr. Melangell]

Frontline? I’m worried now, sounds like a cat vet and not a bunny vet, sorry you are going through this, things happen when your regular vet is away.
Waiting for good news.
Tapping fingers on desk waiting.

[LBJ10]

Do you have an update on your bunny?

[Troubledbunnymom]

Hi guys, an update to my bunny. So I was late and they already applied the Frontline. I said to wash it away, but they keep on insisting that my bunny is fine. When I got there my bunny looked drunk then after an hour my bunny started o scream. It was freaky and scary. The vet said he was fine I really shouted at the vet saying bunnies do not scream unless they are in extreme pain.

Now my bunny has some oxygen because he can’t breathe and I can’t transfer him into another vet because he looks so weak. I’m sorry for not updating for a while since I was dazed on what to do. Will update on what happens next.

[Lee]

Oh no Im so sorry how awful that they wouldn’t listen to you. I would be making some very serious complaints to anyone that I could.

Sending vibes to your bunny and hoping he will pull through!

[JackRabbit]

Poor baby! Sending lots of “please be ok” and “be strong little bunny” vibes…..

[LBJ10]

Oh no, the poor thing. I do hope he will be okay. I’m so very sorry that the vet is behaving the way they are. It is clear that they don’t know much about rabbits, otherwise they would have known that Frontline is bad. Of course, they could also read the label since it says right on there not to use it on rabbits. Please keep us updated on your bunny. We are all very worried about him. It is sad that something that could have been treated with Revolution is turning out to be so much more of an ordeal for you and your bunny. Keep advocating for your bunny, make it clear to the vet that you know what is best for your bunny.

[Megabunny]

I have been stalking this thread. I am crushed! I cannot imagine the horror. I am so sorry

[BinkyMom14]

I am so sorry your poor baby is going through this! Sending healing vibes that he pulls through ok

[BinkyMom14]

I sure hope after hearing him scream they washed it off to hopefully lessen the effect

[Megabunny]

I don’t expect that vet to do squat for the poor thing, and all they’ve done is cause more damage. I have no faith in them pulling this poor baby through. I am so sad and outraged at this whole thing. My heart breaks for the rabbit as well as his mom. She tried so hard to have the right thing done for this bunny and it’s just too sad for words. Really. I can’t stand it.

[Troubledbunnymom]

Thank you everyone, I’m very scared for my bunny. The vet did apologize saying that he doesn’t really know anything about bunnies. I kind of accepted that, but I still feel a little bitter. I know it’s not really his fault he did try, but I don’t know what to feel.

As of now my bunny is still having difficulty in breathing and he closed his eyes. He won’t open them anymore. He still looks like he is in pain; I just tell my boy if he can’t take it anymore he should just sleep. I’m already saying my goodbye and I’m telling him how sorry I am for doing this to him.

I really don’t know what to do, but thanks really guys for the good vibes for my bunny. I don’t really care how much my bill is going up; I just really want my bunny back. I will update later if anything happens, I have to log out now.

[lorree]

Omg!
This is terrible
I’m almost in tears for u
I can’t imagine how upsetting this must be for u
I hope he pulls though

[JackRabbit]

You should have no bill. This vet should never have implied that he knew what he was doing. You tried to do what was best for your bunny and you relied on him to know what he was doing and to stop if he didn’t.

Continuing to send vibes…..

[LBJ10]

My heart is breaking. I’m so sorry this happened. I feel so awful for you and your bunny. I also feel awful because we urged you to seek vet care and then this happened when you finally got a vet to help you. =(

I agree with JR. There should be no charge for this. The vet may not know about rabbits, but I would think he knows how to read. As I said before, there is a warning right on the package that says not to use Frontline on rabbits. I’m horrified that this vet would dismiss your concerns, tell you that Frontline was better and that your rabbit was “fine”, and then proceeded to use it without doing any research.

[Bam]

They did give him a bath didn’t they, after he screamed? The fipronil must come off.

I’m so terribly terribly sorry and angry about this.

We are all thinking of you and your bunny.

[LongEaredLions]

I am so sorry that you are having to deal with this and that the vet gave so little consideration for the life of your bunny. Just makes me so angry.
All my love and hugs are with you and your bunny right now. We are all pulling for you guys.

[MissGabbster]

This is such a horrible situation. I’m so sorry you and your bun have had to go through this. That vet should never have agreed to see your bun without knowing what he was doing. And I agree, you shouldn’t have to pay a cent for this.

Sending vibes your way. I’m really hoping this ends well.

((((((Vibes))))))

[Troubledbunnymom]

Good news everyone, my baby boy is a fighter. He just woke up and is trying to remove the oxygen. He still looks weak, but he is now looking around the room and doesn’t look like he is drunk anymore. He responds when I call his name and he is trying to lick my hand, but the oxygen mask is preventing it. I’m going to feed him some baby food or I could wet some pellets at feed that to him. I only have 2 more hours before the clinic close and then I can’t stay with my bunny.

The vet washed the Frontline with some water and white vinegar. I also dried my bunny so he won’t get cold since the clinic has an AC.

The vet volunteered to stay the whole night to monitor my bunny so he can feed my bunny some water and food. Thank you guys for the healing vibes for my bunny. I will post tomorrow morning on what the news is, but right now my bunny is slowly recovering.

[Bam]

Oh this is lovely news, I so hope he’ll pull through!

[Roberta]

Keeping up the vibes TBM. Is there any thing we can send you to help build up his immune system and get him healthy ?

[Sr. Melangell]

So glad he is OK, if they didn’t know what they were doing they could have called a specialist to get advice in the first place to avoid all this, it only takes a few minutes for a non bunny vet to call a bunny vet.

[lorree]

Yay! I have been thinking about ur bunny all day and how awful this situation is.
I hope he continues on the road to recovery
Best wishes

[Megabunny]

I believe the vet told her the rabbit was fine…yes, while it was screaming!!!  There’s not an angry enough face here for me to add

[Megabunny]

And LBJ She was told Revolution and the vet was told Rev by the owner. We did what we could, though I suspect in the future we will all spell it out, adding NOT FRONTLINE

[jerseygirl]

Unfortunately, the effects of fipronil toxicity can occur days later. Be vigilant and ask the clinic research for you.

Treatments that are put on the neck or are sprays are often alcohol-based. The alcohol on irritated or broken skin would sting awfully. It happens with Revolution also. I hope care was taken where they applied the dose. :/

Did the vet tell you what type of mite they think he has?

While bunny is staying there, you can thoroughly clean out his habitat so there’s less chance of re-infection.

Hoping that the wash will help lessen the effects of Frontline and your bunny pulls through.

[Megabunny]

Somehow I missed a whole lot of those postings I’m just now seeing. You could knock me over with a feather!! I cannot BELIEVE your little one is showing signs of improvement. I really hope he comes around. I’m also amazed at the vet’s offer to stay. I hope he did/does!

[Hazel]

Wow, I can’t believe this vet! If he knew nothing about rabbits, he should have said so from the beginning. He better not give you a bill for this. I’m so sorry this happened, I hope your poor bun continues to improve. He sounds like a fighter!

Mb: I missed a few posts too that are just now showing up. Weird.

[Sr. Melangell]

Bad vet, send him back to vet school, along with the one that thought he knew everything about rabbits here in the UK, he could have looked up Frontline or simply called another vet on the phone, no matter what time of the day it was or the bunny vet was on holiday and if there was no answer on the phone he should have waited for a reply, not just do what he thought might work, ridiculous, we put our trust in these people and must be fully bunny fide!

[LongEaredLions]

Glad to hear he has woken up. (((((vibes))))) for continued recovery!

[LBJ10]

Megabunny – that’s what I mean. No Frontline needs to be emphasized in our posts in situations like these. I often forget that circumstances are not always the same. We often get members here from different parts of the world and sometimes bunnies are not popular as pets so there aren’t always knowledgeable vets available.

[LittlePuffyTail]

I’m so very sad to read about your situation. Sending some (((((vibes)))) for a quick recovery.

[BinkyMom14]

I sure hope your bunny is still getting better! Still sending healing vibes!!!

[JackRabbit]

Any update?

[Troubledbunnymom]

Good day everyone, my baby boy is starting to look okay. The oxygen mask is removed today and he is breathing on his own. He is limping which is strange and he still has that peeling on his nose, but he is not screaming anymore which for me is okay. His ears now are completely bold, the hair is all gone.

The vet is still not sure what is wrong with my bunny. He is willing to use Revolution, but will only use it after three days since he thinks my bunny needs to recover from the frontline. As of now the vet is giving him some vitamins and some crushed veggies (fresh baby food that I made) so he can eat. We also have to bottle feed the water since my bunny hates getting his nose wet.

Roberta, LittlePuffyTail, LongEaredLions, BinkyMom14 and JackRabbit – thank you, having someone to share my bunny’s condition and having people concerned for my bunny is a lot of help already. For that I am very thankful to you. Funny thing today was he growled at the vet. Most adorable thing he did today. I know I should be mad, but for this day I’m allowing my bunny to have some angry outburst of his own.

jerseygirl – No, the vet said he is unfamiliar with mites on a rabbit. He said he won’t chance it again or he could permanently hurt my bunny. I already started to clean my bunnies’ house. My bunnies don’t have a cage, they share one room. The room is my former reach-in closet that I turned into a house for them, but it has no doors. It is open for them to leave or go back into. The closet is 50 inches long, 55.5 inches high and 30.25 inches wide. I think it’s big and I also added a second and third floor for them to jump in and play around. The first floor is open while the second and third floor is sealed so they won’t fall, but I can open it by removing the metal clamps.

Megabunny, Hazel, and Pinky – the vet did stay the whole night because I’m already at the clinic even before it opened this morning and the vet is inside having his coffee. He looked tired, but said he is okay because he wanted to make sure my bunny survives and he told me he is really sorry. I guess he really doesn’t mean to cause harm and now he is repenting by doing his best to help my bunny.

Having a pet rabbit on my country is not normal. It is actually considered weird and some think bunnies are Easter leftover gift. That is why it’s so hard to find a vet for them also people laugh when my friend and I tell them that bunnies are more sensitive than cats or dogs. As of now people are slowly accepting rabbits as pets, but it’s still a long way before my country can see them as real pets than decorations.

LBJ10 – yeah, I’m from a country that sees rabbits as decoration pets and not real pets. That is so unfair, but the awareness of bunnies as house pets are slowly gaining which means more vets for bunnies, more awareness for the bunnies’.

Will update on my bunny’s condition. He still looks weak, but he is fighting.

[BinkyMom14]

I’m so glad to hear he is improving! I was hoping for a good update

[LBJ10]

I’m relieved to hear that he is improving. It sounds like the vet is trying to do right by you and your bunny. Perhaps this will be a new beginning for him. Maybe he will want to learn how to care for rabbits so he can help people who are in the same boat as you.

[Bam]

Thank you for the update. I’m very happy to hear it. Your vet seems like a good person.

[jerseygirl]

Posted By Troubledbunnymom on 7/14/2015 11:08 PM

The vet is still not sure what is wrong with my bunny. He is willing to use Revolution, but will only use it after three days since he thinks my bunny needs to recover from the frontline. As of now the vet is giving him some vitamins and some crushed veggies (fresh baby food that I made) so he can eat. We also have to bottle feed the water since my bunny hates getting his nose wet.

I worry that 3 days would be too soon. Only because it is around that time that symptoms of fipronil toxicity can show. He will probably need the skin condition treated, I agree. I just hope it can be safe to delay that for the time being.
Could the vet contact an exotics specialist in your country or overseas for advice? They usually have access to professional forums to discuss things with other veterinarians.

[emm_renn]

I also teared up about what happened to your bunny! I couldn’t imagine having that happen to mine. I’m so glad your rabbit is making a recovery and I hope you can find a cause for the flakey skin. Are there any other vets around that are actually familiar with bunnies? I feel so sorry for those who live in areas where rabbit vets are scarce.

[lorree]

Sending out more positive vibes to u and ur bunny
Hope things keep improving

[Bam]

I still suspect scabies (sarcoptic mange). Hopefully the fipronil killed off some of the mites so the infestation was set back a little. Mange is deadly in a few weeks’ time and causes extreme itching, the animal may even scratch itself into death of exhaustion, so sth had to be done about the infestation. It was very unfortunate that the vet didn’t listen to the owner about the selamectin. For a dog, the treatment of choice would be fipronil, but bunnies are not dogs. Hopefully this has served to raise awareness about fipronil and rabbits among vets in the Phillippines.

I hope this vet, who seems responsible and caring, will read up on this and on possible interactions between fipronil and selamectin. The mechanism of action for selamectin vs fipronil seems to be rather opposing. Selamectin is a GABA-agonist that activates the nerve cells that dampen activity in the nervous system of the parasites, paralyzing them, whereas Fipronil is a GABA-ANTagonist, causing the parasites to die from over-stimulation of their nerve-cells (excitotoxcicity). But it is very true as Jersey says, it’s a slow-acting poison.

Dear TroubledBunnyMama, you and your bunny are in our thoughts today as well.  Many, many (((((((((((healing vibes))))))))))

[Sir Knight]

I hope everything goes well
-sends bun hugs of fluff-

Yeah most vets in the Philippines are either stubborn due to their pride or just not knowledgeable enough about these sort of matters. I hope you get this sorted out soon and the vet learns =.=

kaya mo yan–
you got this

(/*-*)/ healing vibes

[Cottontail]

TBM – I’ve been keeping up with your thread but have been a bit timid to post anything. I’m glad that your bun seems to be pulling through and improving, but I agree that 3 days worries me. Any treatment for fleas or mites is supposed to last a while… and giving it too soon, I would think, would cause potential for overdose, let alone mixing medications/poisons on an already weakened immune system.

I would definitely see if there is any way of making some international calls or emails to other vets. It would be beneficial to the situation, I think, and could help the vet learn more about the situation and how to best proceed. I’m sending a PM with an email that may help; no promises but I hope it helps.

[LBJ10]

I missed the 3 days part. Yes, I agree. It may not be wise to apply another treatment so soon. I would wait until your bunny has recovered and then reevaluate the mite situation at that time.

[MissGabbster]

I’m glad that your bun seems to be improving. I’m still mad at the vet on your behalf but it does seem like he feels sorry for what he’s done. You should definitely try and get the vet to contact an one who is familiar with exotics. I would hate to have anything else happen to your poor bun.

[BinkyMom14]

Any update?

[Megabunny]

Stay in touch!! Totally amazed and thrilled he is improving!!

[hiskatey93]

I’ve been keeping up with this thread since you posted. Vibes for the poor little baby!

I hope he keeps fighting and gets better! And I hope that the vet does make some calls, or goes into forums, and learns a bit more about bunnies before treating an animal that he isn’t familiar with.

I hope there will be an update soon, and that your baby gets better quickly!

[Troubledbunnymom]

Hello everyone sorry the late update. My bunny just got a skin test and the laboratory result is released today. The skin and lab confirms my bunny has Cheyletiella parasitovorax or known as Rabbit Fur Mite. The vet said it could have been from his mother or his former cage that is before I got my bunny. For now, a new vet who is an exotic handler is looking at my bunny. Said he will administer ivermectin, but will wait for one week since he is observing my bunny from the Frontline application.

So far my little boy is having some weird spasms. He would jump around then stop, after that he would shake his whole body. It only last for 3 seconds then he starts to jump away as if nothing is wrong. The vet is concerned by what that means. My baby boy already lost all of his ear hair and the hair on his face is starting to peel as well.

BinkyMom14 Yes, my bunny is already starting to regain his strength.

LBJ10, jerseygirl, MissGabbster and bam Yup, the vet was really sorry and he even tried to find an exotic vet for my bunny which he was able to contact. Now that vet is looking at my bunny. The vet tried to find a bunny vet. Found one and now he is handling my bunny. The vet said he wants to observe my bunny first because of the effects of Frontline. My bunny is having some mild spasms which is a big concern at the moment.

emm_renn I was freaking out when I heard my bunny scream. It is something that I don’t ever want to hear again. Thank you for the healing vibes for my bunny. Unfortunately, it’s super-duper hard to find a bunny vet.

lorree, hiskatey93 and Megabunny Thank you for the healing vibes for my brave bunny.

Sir Knight I guess they don’t want to admit that they don’t know anything about bunnies. Salamat po, kahit papaano gumagaling na and baby boy ko.

Cottontail thank you for the concern for my bunny. For now the vet said he will observe my bunny for a week before administering anything else.

[jerseygirl]

The spasms are from the Frontline. That’s a typical symptom and the timing seems right for onset. It can be controlled with medication if gets worse.

More {{{VIBES}}} for your bunny.

[Troubledbunnymom]

jerseygirl Yup, that is what the bunny vet said as well. He said it’s better to be safe than sorry. So one week before any medications will be given to my baby boy. Thanks, I believe my bunny will be healthy again because of everyone’s healing vibes! Thank you everyone.

[Bam]

Thank you so much for the update Troubled Bunny Mom!!!

The ivermectin will clear him of all mites so you don’t have to worry about that part.

That said, Cheyletiella parasitovorax does not seem to explain the whole problem. He may have Cheyletiella parasitovorax as well as something else, because CP very, very common in rabbits and they often get it from their mothers and carry these mites all their lives. The symptoms are not what we saw in your pics though, unless perhaps you have a very severe, tropical form of these mites in the Philippines (could be the case, of course). It is reputedly difficult to get a scraping of mange and burrowing mites so he may have those too. Anyway, Ivermectin or Selamectin will clear him of all types of mites.

Your vet behaved very well after his terrible mistake with the Frontline, that’s something you don’t always see, a vet who admits to have been mistaken. It’s admirable.

I will still be keeping your sweet bunny in my prayers. I wish both of you the absolute best. If you like, please keep us updated.

[Cottontail]

{{{Healing Vibes}}}
Please keep us updated! We want to hear a happy ending to this! *hugs*

[Hazel]

I’m so glad to hear your bunny is getting better and you found a new vet!

However, I do agree with bam about the probability of something else going on. I’ve dealt with furmites before, as the name says, they’re after the fur and that’s it. They wouldn’t cause skin irritation or wounds/peeling skin like we’ve seen with your rabbit.

[LBJ10]

So glad to hear he is improving. Yes, the spasms are likely due to the Frontline as Jerseygirl said. I’m glad the vet is keeping a close eye on him.

[Bam]

The spasms would be the fipronil and if he needs treatment for it, benzodiazepines are recommended. Bs are GABA-receptor agonists and calm down the hyperactivity that the fipronil induces in the nervous system.

From wiki: “In animals and humans, fipronil poisoning is characterized by vomiting, agitation, and seizures, and can usually be managed through supportive care and early treatment of seizures, generally with benzodiazepine use”

[LittlePuffyTail]

More (((((well wishes and healing vibes))) for your bun.

[Troubledbunnymom]

The vet also suspects something else which is why he requested another round of tests. My baby boy has no fur on his whole face now. My poor baby. Will continue to update on what will happen to my bunny. Thanks everyone for the healing vibes.

[Sr. Melangell]

No fur on his face Oh dear, I’m sure it will grow back, but if the hair follicles are damaged don’t worry, there maybe a cream he can have in a few weeks, I’m sure he is still beautiful, give your bunny a hug from me.

[jerseygirl]

Fingers crossed they can work it out. Have you got him home with you now?

Sometimes there’ll be a bacterial or fungal skin infection alongside fur mite infestation.

What colour is the bare skin?

[Bam]

Poor little guy, no hair on his face =( I agree with Jersey on the possibility of a secondary infection. ((((((((healing vibes)))))))

Cheyletiella mites do cause hair-loss, my bunny got a big bald-ish spot on his back from cheyletiella mites, but the hair grew back just fine. It took a while though.

[Hazel]

I’m glad the vet is doing more tests, sounds like you found a great vet.

Don’t worry about his face. One of my buns had fur mites and he lost quite a lot of fur because it was misdiagnosed at first. Once he got treated with Ivermectin things cleared right up and all the fur grew back. Hopefully the same will happen with your bun. I guess it depends on what else the vet finds.

Sending healing vibes! I hope the spasm stop soon.

[FluffyBunny]

Just read through this whole thread. Wow, I would be so mad if a vet gave my bunny a toxic medicine! Glad he’s being cared for properly and recovering from the reaction, at least. Hopefully, you can get the skin issue under control with the ivermectin. Don’t worry about the bald patches growing back in. My male bunny had a skin condition that caused him to lose most of the fur on his face and butt a few times. He’s fluffy and healthy now. It takes a few weeks, but the fur will grow back normally once the skin heals up.

Once he’s out of the vet hospital, look into bag balm. I’m not sure if they have it in your country, but it’s really good for irritated skin on animals.

[MissGabbster]

I’m glad that you’ve found a good rabbit-savvy vet!

((((More Healing Vibes))))

[Sr. Melangell]

FluffyBunny mentioned Bag balm, the only place I can find it is eBay and I’m in the UK, I’m very careful with what I buy on eBay, maybe if there is a farm near by the farmer might have some or help you get some, it is used when hand milking cows and goats, farmers wives noticed how soft the farmer’s hands were and started using it themselves in the1800’s, it is good for Eczema and many other skin problems.

[Troubledbunnymom]

Update! My baby boy is finally eating solid foods, but he still has that weird spasm from time to time.

Pinky Yes, all the fur on his face is gone. I still love my baby boy and I know it will grow back I not well I still love him. We have Bag balms available in drugs stores. It’s not really hard to find, usually its next to petroleum jelly’s or healing ointment.

jerseygirl No, my bunny is still at the clinic. His bare skin is pink.

bam I’m glad to know that. My baby boy will become a handsome stud again los.

Hazel Yes, the vet is very careful with my bunny. He has seven hedgehogs as a pet so he knows how frustrating it is to find a vet for exotic animals.

FluffyBunny thank you so much for the bag balm suggestion. I’ll try to find that once my boy is feeling better.

MissGabbster Yup, I’m glad that vet called a bunny expert after the whole Frontline incident.

[LBJ10]

Sounds like your bunny is on the mend. I’m so happy to hear he is doing better. You will have to let us know when he will be able to come home.

[Bam]

So happy to hear that he’s still improving! We really appreciate your updates!

[Roberta]

Feeling so relieved for you.

[lorree]

Hurray, good to hear your boy is still getting better.
Hope everything keeps going well

[Cottontail]

{{{More good vibes for the little boy}}}
I love to hear that he’s getting better!

[Troubledbunnymom]

Hello guys, just a quick update. My baby boy has cheyletiella parasitovorax, psoroptes cuniculi, and treponema cuniculi (rabbit syphilis). As of now I asked if I can take him home, but the vet said no because my bunny is still showing some weird side effects from the application of frontline.

Still a super big thank you and hugs to everyone who gave healing vibes for my baby boy. He is now eating solid food and prefers to drink at his water bowls. It’s also cute that he made friends with the little chow-chow puppies at the clinic.

The vet said I can take him home after two more weeks since my bunny is going to need some treatments as well as correct medicines to correct the side effects of frontline.

[Roberta]

Brilliant news. Bet you can’t wait to have him home.

[Bam]

Great news! Thank you for updating! Poor little bunbun to have been afflicted with all that, and so great that you’ve managed to get such good care for him even if it was a long and winding road to get there. Keeping my fingers cross for an uneventful recovery and for you to be able to take him home after the 2 weeks.

How cute that he’s made friends with chow-chow puppies!

[Megabunny]

I’ve gotta say I’ve never heard of a vet keeping a rabbit that long if it’s eating and acting well enough but maybe it’s just as well he’s not around your other buns right now. All the best. Keep us posted! This was a thread I don’t think any of us will forget!

[Cottontail]

Glad to hear that there is a formal diagnosis and continued improvement.
Please keep us updated! {{More healing vibes}}

[jerseygirl]

Glad to read you’ve gotten (hopefully!) to the bottom of what he has.

Rabbit syphilis is easily treatable with subcutaneous injections of penicillin. Hopefully the vet already told you this.
I am being super paranoid but just want to stress, penicillin can only be given this way to rabbits – never orally. It sounds like this vet is knowledgeable. I hope you can understand my “paranoia” given what happened with the frontline.

[Cottontail]

How is your little boy doing, today?

[IsabellaRobyn]

This whole thread is heart breaking! I’m so glad your bunny is on the mend. Can’t wait to hear the news that you have him home with you!

[Troubledbunnymom]

Hello everyone just wanted to say that I can finally take my baby boy home tomorrow. He looks okay now and the vet advised some medicines to correct the frontline fiasco. Now my baby boy will have some weird spasm attacks that last 10 to 15 seconds then my bunny will be normal again.

Thank you everyone for the healing vibes and for the support you’ve all given when I was updating the status of my bunny.

Roberta Yes! I’m so happy that I can finally take my bunny home.

bam I know and ‘m glad that my bunny is recovering. I’ll post a picture when I get him.

Megabunny the reason why the vet is keeping my bunny that long is because of the frontline used at him. Now my bunny has some side effects from that medicine that needs some correcting and a followed observation just in case my bunny shows any more side effects.

Cottontail Yes, I’m relieved that my bunny is finally getting better. My bunny is eating and drinking normally now. He now has some tiny fur growing to his face which is good and the scally ears are now visible better. It’s still scally, but my bunny is not constantly scratching his ears.

jerseygirl Yes, the vet explained this to me. Thank you very much.

robynisabella Thank you. Yes, but on the brightside my bunny is now recovering well.

[redbunbun]

Oh, I’m so glad for you and your baby! I hope he continues to recover well! It’s wonderful to hear that this story got a nice, happy ending.

[Cottontail]

So glad to hear good news!
You’ll still have to give us regular updates on him and his antics now that he’s home!

[Bam]

So glad to read this!!!!

[Megabunny]

Our little Binky Bunny miracle!!

[Roberta]

Piccies !!!!!!!!!!

[JackRabbit]

So good to hear that he continues to heal. That is one tough bunny! You truly have a miracle bun.

[MissGabbster]

He’s such a fighter! It’s so good that he keeps improving. I’m sure he’ll be happy to be home again.

[LittlePuffyTail]

Glad to hear you’re able to bring him home.

[LBJ10]

Yay! I agree with MissG, he’s definitely a fighter. I’m so happy to hear he is doing better and will be home soon.

[BinkyMom14]

I’m so happy and relieved to hear this! I can’t wait to see pics once he’s back home!!!

[Samara87]

I’m glad your bunny is ok. I’ve been following this thread for a while and hoping it turned out ok.

Binkymom14, that’s so odd. MY rabbit’s name is Mr. Binkins. What a coincidence

[BinkyMom14]

Yay Samara Binky siblings!

[Samara87]

I’d say they could be long lost brothers, but they look nothing alike. It would be funny if they did look alike lol.

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