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Forum HABITATS AND TOYS NIC Cage Questions

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    • Bad Habit
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        1.  Should the wiring be on the inside or the outside?  Like, should the side where the smaller wires are welded be inside, or outside?
        2.  If I put linolium tiles down, and then cage liners on top, with the cage on top of that, would that be safe?
        3.  Is it safe to use the Coroplast as directed for the making of guinea pig cages for a bottom?
        4.  If I have a small dog, is it safe to put the cage on the floor?  Her current cage is up high, and the dog checks her out, but he’s never tried to hurt her.
        5.  Do rabbits prefer boxy cages, or long skinny ones?
        6.  Would it be safe to make a long cage for outside play time?  She’d be supervised and it would have both a top and a bottom.

         

        Sorry, I couldn’t find the answer to these questions when googling.


      • Lintini
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          1. When most of us make grid condos, we use zip ties that are plastic/nylon cable ties
          2. What do you mean cage liner?
          3. I used coroplast and my rabbit loved to chew it up and keep me up all night
          4. It depends on your situation. My rabbits don’t care about my dogs, but if your rabbit gets stressed out you will want to keep your dog away or put her up out of sight of the small dogs. I have a rat terrier and a pomeranian. Both are small, annoying dogs.
          5. Rabbits like room to run around and binky and they need enough height above to be able to stand on their hind legs. The larger the enclosure the better.
          6. As long as they are supervised and there are no pesticides used on the grass then it’s okay. Also take into consideration if you have lot’s of ticks or fleas or even mosquitoes in your backyard. Also take into consideration if your rabbits start to dig.


        • Bad Habit
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            1. I’m using zip ties to attach the panels, but the panels themselves are a box, with wires welded onto them to form the grid/shelf area/w’e. Do I position the panels with the grid welds inside, or outside, or does it not matter?  (this is the most important question, I am waiting on the answer to this before I can continue construction)
            2. Cage liner – it’s kinda like a thin puppy pee pad, it’s normally meant to go under shavings to absorb pee.  http://www.petco.com/product/14277/LM-Anim…imals.aspx  <  link for reference.
            3. I was worried about the chewing, I don’t want her ingesting any plastic. Would wood be safe? If so, what kind won’t hurt her if she chews it?
            4. Lily doesn’t mind the dog when she’s out of the cage, she’ll go right up to him and even curled up with him once. He’s a chihuahua x shih tzu, but is very good with small animals, though it’s always under constant supervision. I plan to give her hiding places, in case the dog bugs too much, I’m more worried about stress than about him hurting her.
            5. I was talking more shape than size. I am aware they like to run around, which is why I thought something like a 1 x 5 would make a nice run for her, rather than a 2 x 3. Gives her more length for running, but less space to turn and such.
            6. The bottom would prevent her from digging out, and probably from digging as well, but I don’t care if she digs holes in the yard. Mosquitoes/ticks/fleas aren’t much of an issue, but she will be treated with a flea treatment anyway, because of the dog and the cats.  My yard is shaded by a large apple tree, and I thought in the spring/summer when I’m gardening, it’d be nice for her to be out grazing.


          • Lintini
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              1. If you look in the habitats section here, everyone just uses the grids that are zip tied together. The 8×8 square ones. Take a look at those, I am unsure of what you are talking about unless you can post a photo of what you have started

              2. Are you spaying/neutering your rabbit to potty train them in a litter box? That liner should not be needed. We try to litter box our rabbits here.

              3. Indiana didn’t ingest it, he just wanted out because he had free range of my room when I let him out and he was anxious in his 4x2x2 cage. It depends on the rabbit really, some rabbits are more destructive than others.

              4. If she is stressed out, she will start to thump and want to hide. I wouldn’t recommend letting your dog constantly be around, I know my Indy is shyer than Bee and he would be really upset if I let the little dogs be up on his enclosure. You will have to just see how your rabbit reacts.

              5. You will def want to make it 2 grids high, my Bumblebee can stretch out to a full 2 grids high. I would recommend a 4 long, 2 high and 2 deep if you can. You might even want to look into buying a dog exercise pen.

              6. Okay sounds great, the big issues with outdoors would be predators, parasites , and digging out and climate/temperature.


            • Bad Habit
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                1. I decided to put the welded side in.  I wanted to put it out on the floor and see what it looked like, plus give Lily some more run around time.  She seems to enjoy it already, bouncing around like crazy.  Can’t wait to finish it tomorrow.

                2. I have yet to decide if I intend to spay Lily or not, it really depends if I can find a rabbit-savvy vet. Even if I do spay/litter train, I’d still rather there be something between the bunny and the carpet.  Please don’t give me the spay speech, I am well aware of the benifits of spaying, however I would rather take my chances with cancer than my chances with a vet who knows nothing about rabbits.

                3. I’m sure Lily will be simply ecstatic to have a new cage. The one she is in now is small for her, and she grew a lot faster than expected. I was hoping to have more time for research before I had to upgrade the cage.

                4. At this time, she’s not stressed by the dog, and they are in the same room probably 14 out of 24 hours in a day, minimum. And as far as it goes, there will be no kicking my dog out of the room because of the rabbit. He was here first, and this is his house. He is not a disruptive dog, or a mean dog, or even a noisy dog. He is curious about this little critter in his house, and wants to be friends. I’m hoping because she’s being raised with him around that Lily will accept him as part of the scenery. He is always present when she is out for play time, and there’s no problems at all.

                5. I wasn’t talking about height, but merely length and depth.  I’ve decided to make it 2×3.


              • Sam and Lady's Human
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                  LOL I understand what you are asking, I think I’d put the lip on the inside, its really up to you though.

                  I would REALLY worry that your bun will eat that mat…

                  Rabbits runs aren’t really like dog runs, where they should be long an narrow, basically they just need a good amount of space, more than 2×3 or 1×5, to run a day for a couple of hours.


                • Bad Habit
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                    Once the dog is more used to her and her antics, she’ll get more outside exersize time. At this point, she’s too new and he gets too excited about her(he was allowed to play with the ferrets and wants to play with her!!). The dog is very attached to me and gets very upset when he can’t come to me(long story short, he was being abused while I was at work when he was younger.) I fear he would resent the bunny if I put him out so she could run around, but he listens to me very well. He goes with my sister for an hour or two a day to play with my nieces and their pitbull, and the bunny has free range of the room then. I don’t think anything bigger than 2×3 will be possible, but I think these grids are bigger than the ones normally used. The little squares are slightly more than an inch, and the entire grid I believe is 14″, but I’d have to go dig through the recycling to find out for sure.


                  • kamdynandsunshinesmom
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                      If you look under bunny info and click habitats they will show you cages made out of NIC cubes. I have an NIC cube cage for one of my buns and I am actually building one tomorow for my other bunny. I have found that I use plastics trays found in a dog crate you can buy them at petco. I just use that. It is plastic and my bunnies don’t chew them!


                    • Lintini
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                        I took the time to answer your questions and you come back with “please don’t give me the spay speech.” Nice. I’m done here.


                      • Bad Habit
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                          yeah, me too.

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