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    • Toki
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        Hello, everyone! I was told my newest addition, lil‘ Mushu here, was a Netherland dwarf. I’m starting to have my doubts, though. What do you think? He is currently 2 months and 8 days old.

        Thank you in advance!


      • Wick & Fable
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          Can you give an approx. weight? Black fur makes distinguishing features slightly difficult

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        • Toki
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            Posted By Wick on 5/09/2018 5:10 PM

            Can you give an approx. weight? Black fur makes distinguishing features slightly difficult

            I’m going to say around 2 lbs. I just noticed his ears and face look different from what I’ve seen with Netherland Dwarfs–like smaller ears and a squished, rounder face? Or something like that. I could be wrong, though.


          • BrunosMama
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              Normally Nethies have squished little faces and stubby ears. Little mushu has pretty long ears to be a nethie.

              Regardless, he’s adorable!


            • Toki
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                Posted By BrunosMama on 5/09/2018 5:38 PM

                Normally Nethies have squished little faces and stubby ears. Little mushu has pretty long ears to be a nethie.

                Regardless, he’s adorable!

                Yeah, that’s what I figured.  Thank you! Do you have an idea of what his breed is?


              • Ellie from The Netherlands
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                  It can be hard to tell with bunnies who are still so young (and so freaking adorable!), but I think you can safely scrap “Netherland dwarf” from your list. Nethies have a very round head shape with extremely short triangular ears which are high up on the head. ND’s weigh up to 1,2 kg (adult weight) They typically look like this: http://www.huisdiereninfo.nl/uploads/huisdieren/KLEURDWERG2_1.jpg

                  Even if they’re not full dwarfs they will retain these characteristics, although their body or ears may be slightly larger. Our Breintje isn’t a full-blooded Nethie either, but he still has the distinctive head and ear shape. His body is larger than the breed standard for full blooded ND’s, he weighs approx. 1,3 kg. His ears are longer too, show standards have to be < 5 cm, and his ears are 6. He's still rocking those cute looks and the rambunctious personality of an ND though

                  I hope you’ll find out which breed Mushu is when he ages a bit. Hopefully you didn’t buy him specifically because you were looking for a Nethie? Pet stores and breeders will often get it wrong and call every small rabbit an ND.


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                    Posted By Ellie from The Netherlands on 5/09/2018 6:56 PM

                    It can be hard to tell with bunnies who are still so young (and so freaking adorable!), but I think you can safely scrap “Netherland dwarf” from your list. Nethies have a very round head shape with extremely short triangular ears which are high up on the head. ND’s weigh up to 1,2 kg (adult weight) They typically look like this: http://www.huisdiereninfo.nl/uploads/huisdieren/KLEURDWERG2_1.jpg

                    Even if they’re not full dwarfs they will retain these characteristics, although their body or ears may be slightly larger. Our Breintje isn’t a full-blooded Nethie either, but he still has the distinctive head and ear shape. His body is larger than the breed standard for full blooded ND’s, he weighs approx. 1,3 kg. His ears are longer too, show standards have to be < 5 cm, and his ears are 6. He's still rocking those cute looks and the rambunctious personality of an ND though

                    I hope you’ll find out which breed Mushu is when he ages a bit. Hopefully you didn’t buy him specifically because you were looking for a Nethie? Pet stores and breeders will often get it wrong and call every small rabbit an ND.

                    Thank you so much! This was really helpful. I love him either way, honestly, so I don’t mind what breed he ends up being. Thankfully I didn’t get him in hopes of him being a Nethie – I just fell in love with him upon meeting him. I’ll wait until he gets bigger and then try my search again!


                  • Wick & Fable
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                      People often advertise their rabbits as Netherland dwarves because they are more popular to sell.

                      The answers provided in this discussion are for general guideline purposes only. The information is not intended to diagnose or treat your pet. Seek the advice of your veterinarian or a qualified behaviorist.


                    • Ellie from The Netherlands
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                        You ams welcomes Toki

                        Sadly that’s true Wick, Nethies are a very popular breed and not many people are aware of the distinctions between rabbit breeds. This counts for both buyers and sellers. Sometimes when I’m searching for information on Nethies I find websites with completely the wrong pictures. A 2 kg + bunny with 8 cm ears and a pointy snoot being called an ND… I always hope that those sellers make honest mistakes when selling a small bun as a Nethie, but sadly there are people who mislead others on purpose.


                      • Wick & Fable
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                          And honestly, gunning for a nethie is tricky business. Wick is the result of someone haphazardly breeding nethies and he has a pretty crooked jaw and teeth line, plus he’s a runt. The more popular something is, the more you need to be educated on it before going forward!

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                        • LBJ10
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                            Maybe he’s a Polish instead? Sometimes people mistake them for Nethies.


                          • Azerane
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                              He could be a nethie mix. Or just a general mish mash of small things


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                                Posted By LBJ10 on 5/09/2018 10:02 PM

                                Maybe he’s a Polish instead? Sometimes people mistake them for Nethies.

                                I was thinking the same as well. I’m fairly sure my own Panda and Fernando are Polish* buns, the smallest non-dwarf breed (in fact Netherland Dwarfs developed from crossing Polish and wild European rabbits), and Mushu looks a lot like them in body and head shape and ears. Do his ears touch together when they’re at rest? That’s a trait of Polish rabbits.

                                *They don’t come from Poland, despite the name, which actually refers to how shiny their fur is, The breed was developed in the UK and the Netherlands.


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                                  Posted By joea64 on 5/10/2018 6:21 AM

                                  Posted By LBJ10 on 5/09/2018 10:02 PM

                                  Maybe he’s a Polish instead? Sometimes people mistake them for Nethies.

                                  I was thinking the same as well. I’m fairly sure my own Panda and Fernando are Polish* buns, the smallest non-dwarf breed (in fact Netherland Dwarfs developed from crossing Polish and wild European rabbits), and Mushu looks a lot like them in body and head shape and ears. Do his ears touch together when they’re at rest? That’s a trait of Polish rabbits.

                                  *They don’t come from Poland, despite the name, which actually refers to how shiny their fur is, The breed was developed in the UK and the Netherlands.


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                                    Yay, I finally had the little devil calmed down this afternoon ^_^ He became rather snuggly when I sat on the couch with a cup of tea, so I managed to snap some pics explaining the characteristics of Nethies and Nethie mixes. In case other people are looking up this thread or having the same questions.

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