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Forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A Is my 2 month old bunny under shock?

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    • Riffy
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        he was runnin around in the floor because i had left his cage open and i almost tripped on him and i by mistake spilled  water on him cold water and he started screamin for like 10 seconds …i put him in his cage and i looked at the inside of his mouth and everything looks white it dont look like ur usual red…and when i carry him he lets like his head fall backwards..he dont wanna eat or nothing…what should i do

         

         

        UPDATE: wear his testicles or w/e should be it looks extremely blue and he does not wanna eat drink or do anything…whats going on???????????????


      • Sarita
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          You need to get him to a vet as soon as possible. I don’t know what’s wrong with him but your first priority in an emergency is the vet.


        • Beka27
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            Please update! Did you get him into the emergency vet?!


          • Riffy
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              i dont have money for the vet as of now i paid my rent/las tmonths rent this week so i have no money left… what should i do???


            • freiheit
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                Did this just happen? Blue skin might simply be due to him being very cold, did you dry him properly with a towel? If not, do so and try to calm him while doing so. If he’s been like that for a while, well then he’s going to need a vet unfortunately. Check his eyes and nose to see if they’re clean, his nose should be dry, catching a cold from the cold water might be the problem, unfortunately for you, this to would require a vet.


              • MissPinUp
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                  start saving. bunnies aren’t cheap, for sure. obviously it won’t help him now, but you’ve got to make sure you’ve got something saved so if you need to get in, your bunny can be cared for properly :/


                • Beka27
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                    It’s been over a day, is he still acting strangely? Are you trying to keep him warm? Is he in his cage, eating, drinking, pooping? There is not much we can recommend in this situation. We are not vets. If he stops eating and pooping, that can lead to his gut slowing down which causes a whole new set of problems. Your vet might be able to work out a payment plan with you.


                  • Balefulregards
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                      I suspect that this rabbit was electrocuted.


                    • RabbitPam
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                        Since it’s very unusual for a bunny to scream – he is really in need of some help.
                        My suggestion would be to get out the local phone book and call the vets listed that are near you, explain what happened and ask if anyone will let you bring him in for an emergency and bill you after so you can arrange for payment within the next few weeks. Even a dog/cat Dr. that will see him right away under those terms is better than no vet at all.

                        How is he now?


                      • BinkyBunny
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                          Oh…this doesn’t sound good. The gums/mouth being white meant he was in shock and his limp body meant he was very close to death. I don’t know if your bunny made it through. I hope so, but I am so sorry if he didn’t make it. Very sad.

                          If anyone ever gets into this situation where a bunny is this serious the answer HAS to be a vet.     When it is life or death – we can only help with giving information about keeping your bunny warm to give him the best chance ON THE WAY, (in the car) to the vet.

                          Here is a good resource for people who need vet care but are financially in a bind.
                          http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/w…_care.html

                          (fixed link – was broken)


                        • Monkeybun
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                            Hope your bun made it… any updates?


                          • Barbie
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                              Yes, updates please! Hope things are ok… =(

                              Also, BB, your link didn’t work.. it went to the humane society page, but said the specific page wasn’t found…


                            • FluffyBunny
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                                If your bunny is still acting off, he certainly needs a vet ASAP. If he got better after a while, my guess is that the water being spilled scared him then got cold and tired from having the water spilled on him.

                                Couldn’t you figure out something with your vet to pay part of the cost later?

                                How is the bunny now?


                              • BinkyBunny
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                                  OH thanks – here’s the link again.  This one should work.

                                  http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/w…_care.html


                                • Riffy
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                                    he is now really skinny and is still having pale gums the vet is closed this week end…his body looks blue but he dont feel cold i gave him water through a thing i forgot what is called that you inject yourself with , with a needle…but i fd him without the needle of course…what should i do? vets = closed… he is under shock and i called another vet and they said it cost 1450$ to treat him


                                  • RabbitPam
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                                      I would call other vets immediately. Just keep trying until you find one who will help.
                                      Maybe your local shelter knows a vet that treats emergencies with financial hardship.


                                    • FluffyBunny
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                                        He really does sound like he needs to see someone. 1450$ sounds like way too much for a vet appointment, could they have made a mistake? It cost me 50$ to get Mr. Bunny checked out once (although nothing was wrong with him)


                                      • KatnipCrzy
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                                          Riffy- It is your legal responsibility to provide medical care for any pet that you own- so legally and morally you need to find a way to get treatment for your bunny or surrender him to an animal agency that will make decisions with the bunnies best interest in mind.


                                        • Riffy
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                                            Only emergency place cost 100 $ juss 2 check him up and the treatment is additional….

                                             

                                            i have him wrapped in a towel…do u think feedin him some how could atleast makem feel better….but he wont chew anything


                                          • Balefulregards
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                                              Your rabbit is dying. There is nothing we can tell you to help you besides taking him to a vet. Force feeding him will do nothing except most likely make him aspirate the food and infect his lungs.

                                              When you agree to become a pet owner, it is with the knowledge that you are responsible for that pet. Not just if it is convenient or cost effective.

                                              No reputable vet that I have ever, EVER heard of would turn away a dying animal – or at the very least euthanize him if there is truly nothing to be done.
                                              Your rabbit deserves better than the attitude of “it is too costly to have him seen”


                                            • Barbie
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                                                Like everyone else is saying, you HAVE to get him to a vet, or surrender him to a humane society. You can try a mash of Critical Care (pellets made by Oxbow, formulated for ill and recovering rabbits) and water through the syringe. If you can’t get Critical Care, at least try mashing up some pellets in water. Sometimes baby food (all natural ingredients and only baby food made out of things on the list of acceptable fruits and veggies) is suggested for sick bunnies, but because he’s only 2 months old you should NOT give him any fruits or veggies yet. Keep trying the water. I doubt he is, but is he pooping normally? You really need to just get him to a vet. It’s been 3 days since you posted, and if he hasn’t eaten since then he’s in SEVERE danger – even rabbits that haven’t eaten for 12 hours can die. At this point there’s probably nothing you can do that will make him better. Explain your situation to the vets and ask if they can work out a payment system for you to pay the bills over time instead of all at once. If you get him to the vet, you’ll at least be TRYING to help the poor bun.

                                                I know it’s stressful and painful to have to watch a sick bunny, but there ARE things that can be done for it. People on here are trying to help you, but you’re the only one physically with this rabbit, so it’s your responsibility to take care of it properly. Calling vets is a step in the right direction, but you really need to do more than that for this bunny, like I said, ask about alternative payment plans. I mean, if I was in your situation, I’d be frantic, and I would have been calling every vet within a few hundred mile radius of my home to try to find one that would work with my financial situation. I mean, you can offer to work off the bill, scooping poop out of the clinic’s cages or something – I dont know how many vets would go for that these days, but you can at least try. Since you already have this bunny, you HAVE to help it with it, but please, in the future, if you don’t have the financial means to properly care (food, supplies, AND vet bills) for a rabbit or any other animal for that manner, please please please don’t get another one! It’s not fair to the animals, in fact, it can be considered animal cruelty, which is ILLEGAL. I’m sorry if I sound harsh, but it’s very frustrating, upsetting, and painful for me to have to sit by and read your posts about this poor bunny, knowing that I can’t do anything – I can only try to stress to you the importance of taking him to the vet.

                                                Edit: I posted before I read balefulregards’ post, and he/she (sorry, balefulregards!) had some good advice – you shouldn’t force feed him becasue it can make him even sicker.


                                              • jerseygirl
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                                                  Riffy, please take him to your nearest animal shelter. I’m sure the people will help and tell you what you can do.  At this point, seeking advice on the internet cannot help any further.


                                                • Riffy
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                                                    guys i have very sad news (crying like a punk while writing this) …

                                                    i tookem to a emergency vet even though i didnt have money….and they took a look at him and the vet said they gonna have to makem go to sleep [[u know what dat means]]…because he was so sick and looked horrible and had poor responses…he was very very skinny…and before i said good bye to him he was grinding his teeth very loudly i dont know what that means any one knows? he was moving a little ….i dont think that vet knew that much about taking care of bunnies but she did know about bunnies and stuff….idk i think they juss wanted to kill him and make money idk why…i told her i didnt have money and she said if i had she coulda tried to put him on a iv and try to bringem back to life if anything bad happens but she said she highly doubts he is going to survive because of the way he is responding…

                                                    man i loved dat guy man…. do u know his freaking story?? i had 6 kits him and his brother chunky where the only 2 rabbits 2 survive… the others died in pairs… man dis freaking sucks man
                                                    what do u guys think?


                                                  • amandafaith90
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                                                      I’m very sorry for your loss, Riffy, and I know how you’re feeling right now. As awful as a loss is, however, you have to keep a few things in perspective. Your vet, I’m sure, would never misinform you about an animal’s situation in order to make more money. Vets become vets because they want to help animals, not because they want to take advantage of a frantic pet owner’s checkbook. As for the entire circumstance of your bunny’s death, I cannot help but be extremely frustrated and saddened. Your rabbit should’ve gone to the emergency vet the moment you suspected something was seriously wrong, which according to your post was a few days ago. While vet care can be and is expensive, you commit yourself to that cost when you take on the responsibility of an animal. To deem a vet visit “too expensive” in an emergency situation is essentially putting a price on the life of your animal. Had you taken your bunny to a vet immediately regardless of potential cost, he may survived whatever it was that was ailing him. Even if you got your rabbit examined by the vet and gotten a price quote of care that was truly impossible for your situation, there is always the option of surrender. Had you given your rabbit to an organization or rescue, they would’ve done their utmost get the care your rabbit so desperately needed without some of the cost restraints you were experiencing.

                                                      I’m sorry if I come across as harsh, but I can’t help but be angry. I remember your previous posts on both intentional breeding and your inability to feed your rabbit for a period of time, and I cannot help but be worried about what may happen in the future. I hope that you have learned through this tragic lesson the true responsibility you take on when becoming the owner and best friend of any animal, and that in the future you either fully commit to providing the best possible care for your animals in an emergency situation and otherwise, or decide against being the owner of any animal until you are able for that level of commitment both financially and personally.


                                                    • Monkeybun
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                                                        Sorry for your loss Riffy.

                                                        Alot of buns grind their teeth loudly when in pain, I doubt very much your vet was just trying to make money of of your bun’s sickness. Putting your bun to sleep was likely the most humane thing to do under the circumstances, by the sounds of it thre isn’t that much they could have done to help him and it would have been cruel to let him go on suffering.

                                                        But there is a lesson in all this. Make sure to have the money saved and put away not to be touched except in a bun emergency. Or another pet emergency. Its a huge responsibility, and its best to be prepared in case of such a thing happening.

                                                        It’s always sad to hear of a little bun’s passing, even if I do not know the bunny. Binky free little bun. *sniffles*


                                                      • jerseygirl
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                                                          I’m sorry to hear this Riffy. It is probably best the little bun is no longer suffering. If you still have his brother Chunky, please, please become better prepared to look after him. Rabbits are so fragile and it is likely that Chunky will need some vet care in the future. You are in New York? Get in touch with someone like the NY chapter of the House Rabbit Society. They can probably give you advice on how to get through those tough times.


                                                        • Beka27
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                                                            (((Binky Free Little Bun)))


                                                          • RabbitPam
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                                                              I’m very, very sad to hear about your little one, and at least it is a comfort to know he is no longer suffering.
                                                              {{Binky free now}}}}}

                                                              You’re upset right now, Riffy, but in a few days I’d like to ask you to take a step back and consider your situation with your remaining bunny.
                                                              It may be unrealistic to expect to be able to save for the costs over years to care for your bunny. You love your bunnies very much, but sometimes we need to put the needs of those we love above our own feelings. If your current bunny will be in a similar situation, or even is at risk of becoming ill and not getting treatment, please consider doing the loving thing of finding a new home with someone who can afford to care for him now. You can do a careful search with an ad on Craigslist if you like that better than giving him to a shelter. This WILL happen again, and you have time now to do the best for your current bunny. You can get a much smaller pet to love that is much less expensive and in the near future, when you have money saved, you can have a new bunny. But put the bunny’s needs first. Love is not enough.


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                                                                Riffy, I’m sorry for your loss. Binky free poor little bunny.

                                                                Like everyone else, I must stress the importance of having the means to properly care for ANY animal before you take on the responsibility of owning a pet. Pam suggested a smaller pet… I honestly don’t think you should have any animals right now – I’ve seen your other posts about the unintentional litters (or intentional – who knows, but you WERE putting the two un-altered buns together AFTER people on here asked you not to – anyway, I don’t want to get into that) and also about how you didn’t have any money to buy food so you wanted to feed your rabbits crackers…. It doesn’t sound like you’re in any position to care for rabbits, and that’s unfortunate, but keep in mind, ALL animals have the same basic needs – food that is not only adequate but also nutritionally balanced for that particular species, lots of clean fresh water available at all times, a clean habitat of adequate size, and veterinary care. If you do decide that for whatever reason you have to have a pet, please do your research first before getting any animal. They all have different specific needs – for example, did you know guinea pigs need vitamin C supplements in addition to their diet?  And please, even if you’re looking for a small “pocket pet” go to the shelter first – not a pet store. The shelters in my area often have hamsters and rats. Anyway, I really don’t think you should get another pet for awhile. At least not until you can get back on your feet and get some money saved up.

                                                                If you do have any remaining pets, please just surrender them to the local humane society or even better, your local House Rabbit Society. They can take care of them properly there and find them homes that can provide for them. I would strongly recommend AGAINST posting on Criagslist. In my area, the rabbits that are posted on there usually go to people with snakes as snake food or as dog bait for dog fighting. No matter how much you try to screen someone you meet through Craigslist, you never know where that rabbit is going or what kind of life it’s going to have. Also, it could take weeks or even months to find someone who is interested in your rabbit through Craigslist – there are so many rabbits available – and in the meantime, you have to take care of the rabbit.  I browse the animal ads on Craigslist from time to time, even though it upsets me, so I have to tell you, the ads that are poorly written and have awful grammar annoy me to no end. A poorly written ad will take even longer to attract interest. The humane society sounds like the best option for you, if you have any remaining animals. People who go to the humane society looking for a pet, in my experience, are actually looking for another family member, and will be more likely to provide a good home for the animal they adopt.

                                                                I know I’m speaking harshly, but I’m very frustrated and upset by this whole situation with your bunny. You really need to think long and hard before getting another pet – you have to be able to take care of it, no matter what happens.  Like children, your pets are your LEGAL and MORAL responsibility.  Nothing you learn online is going to replace the care from a vet in the case of an ill pet.  And no, I don’t think the vet was trying to rip you off.   He/she always acts in the best interest of the animal… I’m sure you’ve heard the part of the Hippocratic Oath that’s sometimes shortened to “primum non nocere” meaning in Latin, “First, do no harm.” Euthanasia sounds like it was the most humane option for your rabbit that had been suffering for quite a few days.  Honestly, it was probably the least expensive treatment. I’m not a vet, but I’d assume that anything else would have probably included x-rays, blood work, IV fluids, and various other meds depending on the diagnosis, which means a larger bill. But it probably would have just prolonged the rabbit’s suffering at that point.


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                                                                  So sad. Based on what I can imagine the vet was looking at by the time he saw your baby bunny, then he may have been making the most “humane” decision, which had nothing to do with expenses. Though they could have put an IV in him (even if you didn’t have the money), they thought that it would just have prolonged the bunnies misery at the time. At this point, after days of this, I can understand why the vet made this decision.

                                                                  Now this baby bunny is at peace, no more suffering, no more pain. Binky Free precious one.

                                                                  I strongly agree with what other members have said. Please consider their advice. I know you are in pain now after losing one bunny, and it will be heartbreaking to give up another. It is not shameful to be in a rough spot financially, you just have to be aware of your limitations. And if right now, you just don’t have the funds to feed, offer proper care, and save for emergencies, then looking for solutions is the next step. Sometimes doing what is best just hurts, but then you can take this loss and turn the next step into pride -and do what is best for your remaining bunny.

                                                                  I also agree to look for a no-kill shelter. Best to find a Humane Society or SPCA.


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                                                                    Barbie,
                                                                    Point well made about Craigslist. I totally forgot about those people who adopt bunnies for awful reasons. I revise my recommendation to what you and BB just said, to give the bunny the best possible chance through the Humane Society or SPCA. Riffy, your heart is breaking now, but you will be doing a real blessing of love.


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                                                                      I suppose I owe an apology to everyone. I re-read my post and realized how harsh it sounded. I don’t take back any of the points I made, but I probably came across as very mean. So, I’m sorry. I was just very worked up.

                                                                      Riffy, I know what you’re going through. Loosing a pet is always hard, and I can sympathize with you. Like everyone else has said, in the next couple days you should think about what you can do to benefit your other bun, and act accordingly. Good luck.


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                                                                        Most often a vet is not unwilling to take heroic, unlikely measures to save a pet’s life- but it is their job to give you their honest opinion about what is best for the pet.  So if you were working with limited finances and the bunny was seriously ill with a guarded prognosis- the kindest option he could have offered you was euthanasia.

                                                                        Sometimes when pets are extremely ill their blood pressure is lower and they are dehydrated and that makes getting an IV catheter in even trickier and more difficult with multiple attempts necessary.


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                                                                          I have just checked into this thread and it deeply saddens me.

                                                                          Everyone has given Riffy very good advice, we can only hope that (s)he follows it.

                                                                          Riffy, I am sorry for your rabbit’s death. I know how it feels to lose a pet that you loved. Please take from this experience and if you have or decide to get another pet, please please, better prepare yourself. We are in very tough times. With the economy the way it is, I know that sometimes it is difficult to save up money. Saving money for emergencies is something that you owe to your pet. You owe it to him or her to provide the best possible care. I have had pet emergencies myself and they had told me over the phone that there is an emergency fee. I didn’t care, money was no object to me. I understand that sometimes it is hard but you can never put a price on an animals life. I’m not trying to be mean but like the others I am very upset with the way things turned out.

                                                                          {{Binky Free young bun}}


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                                                                            You all gave very nice advice to Riffy but I just can’t add up how spilling water on him did this. I am sorry for your loss, and the loss of his brothers/sisters as well.


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                                                                              I also had a hard time wrapping my brain around it. Perhaps something else happened we aren’t aware of.
                                                                              Someone had posted that they thought it may have been electrocution, and that’s possible. Spilling water on a bun who had recently been shocked probably would make it worse.

                                                                              I don’t know what happened to this little guy, but atleast he is safe and no longer suffering. He’s in a place where nothing can hurt him.


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                                                                                Riffy I know that you must be very sad after loosing your little baby bun, and I am sorry for your loss

                                                                                —BUT—

                                                                                I dont understand why it would EVER take someone 3 full days….
                                                                                72 long hours….
                                                                                4320 minutes….
                                                                                259200 ticking seconds to get their sick bunny to a vet!!!?????

                                                                                In a perfect world before every single person got a pet they will do research, stock up on food, make sure their living space is ready for the new arrival, and have an emergency account set aside for vet visits. I know not everyone does this but I cant believe that even if you didnt have the money available you wouldnt take your bunny to the vet right away or at least by that next morning. I thought all bunny owners were parinoid about their bunnies not eating/pooing. I get freaked when Sammy or Ivy dont eat all their morning pellets by the time I get back from work in the afternoon. I feel like that is bunnies best and easiest way to tell us their slaves that something is bothering them…..How can someone let their poor helpless pet suffer for 3 days before trying to help them out???

                                                                                I hope that any potential bunny owners that are reading this site for research before they get their bunny is able to learn from this story and better prepare for their own little bun. These guys are much more expensive than you will expect, and to thrive require lots and lots of time, affection and attention.

                                                                                {{{binky free little bun}}}

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