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    • otterbun
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        Hi! I got a bunny, Otter, fairly recently, in July-August. We got them from my mom’s friend whose rabbit had babies. Though I try my best, I don’t think I’m doing a fantastic job with this whole bunny owner thing. (Sorry this is going to be long)

        Some basic info! We don’t know Otter’s gender or exact age, I can only guess they’re abt 3-5 months old. The previous owner said they are a rex and lop mix and that they won’t grow very large even at adult size. Not spayed/neutered.

        First off, Otter has never been to the vet before. I’ve scheduled a checkup before but my mom cancelled it b/c she thought it was unnecessary. I don’t know what rabbit vaccination laws in Canada are, but I would feel better if Otter was vaccinated.

        Second! Otter spends most of their time in their cage and I know that is. pretty bad. Since I spend most of my day at school, Otter has to stay in their cage. Even when I’m home I can only let them out in the bathroom for a few hours every day. I tried to convince my parents to let me house train Otter so they can free roam at least the first floor, but they said no because we have expensive leather reclining couches and they do not want the rabbit chewing and scratching that up. Bedroom is not an option, mom doesn’t want Otter on the second floor. Garage is definitely out of the question. The basement is dusty and has no natural sunlight, plus when I said I plan to permanently let Otter free roam instead of moving their cage to the basement every single day like I currently do with the bathroom, she immediately shut the idea down.

        Because of this I also have trouble spending enough time with Otter. When I get home from school I’m usually so tired I can barely drag myself upstairs to change, much less play with my bunny. Even after getting some rest I don’t want to stay cramped inside a bathroom for hours and I don’t think Otter wants to either. When I do sit in the bathroom with them it’s pretty much never over 45 minutes and I know that’s nowhere near enough. When I try to play with Otter they don’t seem interested either, so I just end up sitting on the bathroom floor while Otter does their own thing around me.

        Before I leave in the morning I make sure to fill up Otter’s water bowl but every day when I get home it’s always been drunk dry and Otter is clearly thirsty. I could ask my dad who works from home to refill the water but he is completely unreliable. The other day he forgot to pick up his own kid from school (not me, my little sister). He is no help at all.

        There’s more, but these seem to be the major problems for now.

        Otter seems fine physically but I always feel terrible because I’m doing such a bad job emotionally and socially. I don’t want to give them away because who knows if the new family will be better or worse, but Otter will not thrive in their current conditions.

         

        TLDR: Rabbits are NOT easy creatures to maintain and I don’t think I have the time, space, or ability to provide a full and healthy life for my bunny

        Please help! Any advice is appreciated.

         


      • DanaNM
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          First I just want to say I think it’s very admirable that you recognize that things are not going well and you’re trying to change that! I know a lot of members have issues with parents, because the standard or rabbit care has changed a lot. I know when I was younger, my parent’s also wouldn’t let me keep my bunnies in the house, so they lived in a hutch outside, which I still feel completely horrible about. It is also not uncommon for someone to get a rabbit from a friend without really understanding what goes into it.

          So, I have some suggestions. Ultimately, if you still can’t convince your parents to let you improve Otter’s living situation, then the kindest thing would be to try to rehome him to someone who could. But I’ll get back to that at the end…

          First I recommend checking out the “rabbit info” section: https://binkybunny.com/house-rabbit-information/

          There is a lot of really great information for new rabbit owners concerning housing, diet, etc. I think the most important thing to prioritize is giving Otter a larger space to live in while he’s unsupervised, especially if he has to spend a lot of time in it. Many people will set up an exercise pen, and attach that to the cage, but leave the cage open all the time, so the bun has a “front yard” to hang out in and move around a bit more. You can protect the flooring with a sheet of vinyl from the hardware store, which is very affordable (about 50 cents a sq ft in the US). Ideally then, you could give your bun supervised free-roam time in a bunny-proofed room (or whatever room the pen is in). Bunny proofing will be very important to prevent damage (there is a section on this in the rabbit info section), and you can emphasize to your parents that he would be supervised. Most rabbits don’t seem to chew on furniture upholstery, they are more interested in wooden things, baseboards, and sometimes carpeting. By blocking access to problem areas and providing appropriate toys, he will be a lot less likely to chew on things he isn’t supposed to. If you had a better set up, it would be easier to just let him out while you were doing your homework or watching tv, etc, then he can run around and you can keep an eye on him.

          The other thing is that it will most likely be necessary to get him neutered so he can be fully litter box trained. Many people (especially parents) don’t realize that rabbits can be very very clean and litter box trained, but they have to be neutered for that to work.

          It is understandable that he doesn’t want to move around much in the bathroom, because the floor is slippery and he doesn’t know where he is. Most bunnies prefer to just be let out of their cage so they can explore the room, and then retreat to their cage if they need to (they will return to the cage to use the litter box, or if they want to feel safe).

          If he is drinking all of his water, then you need to get a larger water bowl. You can add a bottle as a backup as well.

          If your parents aren’t willing to let you make these changes (or you don’t think you will be able to for other things), the best thing would be to rehome him, or contact a rescue in your area to see if they can help. There are some tips on rehoming here: https://rabbit.org/rabbit-center/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Rehome-handout.pdf

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          • otterbun
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              Thank you! The rabbit info section was really helpful and I definitely will try some of those methods out this weekend. As for exercise pens, is chicken wire ok to use instead? I’ve looked for doggie play pens on Amazon before but many were $60-$70 and that is not a price my parents are willing to pay. Are there any fan favourite toys for chewing or playing that most bunnies like? Otter doesn’t seem too interested in the stuff I give them.

              Rehoming is a last resort and I will try not to let it get to that. Again, thank you!

              (I accidentally replied to the other comment so I’m reposting it here ahahaha)


          • Wick & Fable
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              Dana really hit the nail on the head. I would go to the link provided by her (including the rehoming one, if appropriate) and review the material thoroughly. You can then decide what you are and are not willing/capable of doing. Our forum members are happy to help answer specific questions, address concerns, and also brainstorm if needed.

              Here is another resource if rehoming may be the best option: https://wabbitwiki.com/wiki/Rehoming_your_rabbit

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              • otterbun
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                  Thank you! The rabbit info section was really helpful and I definitely will try some of those methods out this weekend. As for exercise pens, is chicken wire ok to use instead? I’ve looked for doggie play pens on Amazon before but many were $60-$70 and that is not a price my parents are willing to pay. Are there any fan favourite toys for chewing or playing that most bunnies like? Otter doesn’t seem too interested in the stuff I give them.

                  Rehoming is a last resort and I will try not to let it get to that. Again, thank you!


              • DanaNM
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                  I’ve been able to find exercise pens for around $40 on Amazon, search for “MidWest Foldable Metal Dog Exercise Pen / Pet Playpen”, the 30″ high one should be plenty high. You also can often find pens used from various places (online, garage sales, etc). Sometimes animal shelters even sell them at low prices because people donate them.

                  That said, yes chicken wire could work if you support it correctly, because it’s floppy, rabbits can chew through wire if it’s too thin, though. Hardware cloth is a better option. Here’s some threads where there are some ideas about it:

                  Indoor Rabbit Pen Idea!!!!!

                  My personal favorite for pens/cages is to use NIC cube grids. You can zip tie them together in various configurations and make fencing or bunny condos with them. You can get a pack of them for around $ 40 US on amazon as well, and 1 pack would be enough to make a pen for him (and maybe have some extras for bunny proofing).

                  I will say that I’m a little concerned about long term costs if your parent’s aren’t willing to pay for an exercise pen (which is usually much cheaper than a pet-store cage). Rabbit veterinary care can be expensive if bun gets sick. Have you discussed with them what you would do if Otter gets sick and need to go to the vet?

                   

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                • DanaNM
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                    Oh, as far as toys, my buns really like anything made out of willow, organic palm plates, and cardboard cat scratchers. Even a paper towel tube stuffed with hay can be very entertaining for them.

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                    • otterbun
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                        I gave my bunny a paper tube stuffed with hay and tied it to the top of their cage, it got completely demolished in hours lol. My local pet store doesn’t have too many options for rabbits so I’ll have to look somewhere else.


                    • Wick & Fable
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                        Cardboard cat scratchers! I find they are particularly well-used by rabbits who are relentless baseboard/wall corner chewers.

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                      • LBJ10
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                          I agree that hardware cloth is a better option than chicken wire. You will need something to support it though. NIC grids are great too. They are sturdy and easy to zip-tie together to make larger structures.

                          I understand that your parents may not have anticipated the costs associated with owning a rabbit. A lot of people don’t. Hopefully you can talk to them about this because your bunny may need to see a vet for an illness, injury, dental problem, etc. some time in the future. They need to be willing to have your bunny treated if needed.

                          I know there is no such thing as phone books anymore, but they make excellent bunny toys too. They seem to get satisfaction from ripping the pages. Phone books have soy-based ink, which is safe for bunnies.

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