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Forum THE LOUNGE HELP ME GET THIS YOUTUBE VIDEO REMOVED!!!

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    • Binkles
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        Additional moderator warning – The User Commentary on this video uses extremely foul and inappropriate language.  Please do not view the video if you find bad language offensive.

        –  Osprey

         

        ***WARNING:***

        THE CONTENT OF THIS VIDEO INVOLVES THE TORTURE AND SLOW PAINFULL DEATH OF A WILD RABBIT AT THE MOCKERY OF ITS OFFENDER.

        **DO NOT VIEW UNLESS YOU ARE POSITIVE YOU CAN HANDLE IT!!!**

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QwxfBpmFuk&feature=related

        Guys, help me flag this video and GET IT REMOVED!! I first saw it a week ago and flagged it, but YouTube has not removed it yet. I cannot BELIEVE that it has been up for nearly 5 months and no one else has flagged or even commented on it besides me.

        Especially given that the way I found it was through clicking on the ‘related videos’ links on loving house rabbit videos.

        THIS VIDEO NEEDS TO BE TAKEN DOWN BY YOUTUBE **NOW**

        Let them know your dissaproval!!

         


      • minnieservis
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          omg.  this video made me sick  i flagged it 7 times and if i had extra time right now i’d flag it some more. people are sick. i will go back and flag it again


        • ADEE
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            omg are you fking kidding me!!!! im seriously sick to my stomach, how can you repeatedly flag it?!!!! get this video OFF before some other innocent animal is abused by copy cats


          • ADEE
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              never mind i figured it out… im working on flagging about a dozen times or so


            • Binkles
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                Oh! Be careful everyone! They might consider multiple flaggings ‘abuse’ of the flag feature. I don’t want anyones’ accounts to get suspended. 😡


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                  It’s days like this I wish I could crash YouTube.
                  I don’t even want to see the darned thing. I can’t remember my pass though, so I could go in and flag it. Mebbe have to make a new account just to torpedo this one.

                  Just reading the post I keep thinking of poor Benny. ;_;


                • BinkyBunny
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                    I did flag it, and I also emailed YouTube’s abuse department. I hate people.


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                      I flagged over and over its still up I cant tand it…


                    • xXPanicXx
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                        OMG i havent watched it. this is why i cannot stand people.(hunters (sorry to any hunters)) i couldnt watch it. HOW DO I CONTACT YOUTUBE PEOPLE? once i do, im gonna freak. no right to put this up. its horrible. >.> this maked me sick, just thinking about it.


                      • xXPanicXx
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                          OKAY. i freaked. i complained. i hope it help. that is horrible. i cant stand his (no soul). his heart is black. pure black.
                          ANYWAYS. if any more of you want to complaine, its hard to find. i have the site right here: http://help.youtube.com/support/youtube/bin/request.py

                          we NEED to stop this. IN MEMORY OF THE BUNNY. <3 :'(


                        • MandyR
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                            I can’t believe how incredible sick that guy is. I flagged it as animal abuse, is that okay? anyways i am going to go flag is some more.


                          • Deleted User
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                              flagged, commented and complained.


                            • Deleted User
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                                Abuse of the flagging feature….not ok….animal abuse….not a problem.  What a sick world we live in.


                              • LittlePuffyTail
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                                  I boycotted YouTube about a year ago because of similar videos of people torturing rabbits YouTube refused to remove at the repeated requests of several rabbit activist organizations.

                                  Make a stand, Boycott them!!!!! And let them know you are doing this!


                                • kimberleyanddarren
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                                    i HATE people, this is why i could be so happy to live with never seeing another person again people are such C***S URGH!
                                    I flagged and made a complaint.


                                  • Binkles
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                                      Bumping this post…the video is still up. We need to flag-attack this sucker.


                                    • xXPanicXx
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                                        come on people ^.^ we need this down. email this site with this link: http://help.youtube.com/support/youtube/bin/request.py do it in memory of the bunny.


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                                          Ok I’ll contribute but I don’t want to go into the site and see this … can we just email them and complain.

                                          Oh typical of you tube … I hate the whole thing about it … so many sickos around who get their thrills by abusing poor innocent animals. 

                                           


                                        • xXPanicXx
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                                            yup. the link i gave is jsut the complainte section.. (should be)


                                          • kimberleyanddarren
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                                              i sent in another email saying i was disgusted it still hadnt been removed and that i, and several others who are aware of the video, will boycott youtube and spread the word that others should do the same untill the video is removed.


                                            • xXPanicXx
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                                                exactly waht i said. i was discusted, and that many of us were going to keep complaining if he didnt take it off.


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                                                  There would be total uproar if it was a dog or cat.  Perhaps we should put an animated version of a pet dog/cat being tortured/killed.  I wonder if this would be considered ok.

                                                  Surely youtube have policy as to what can be put on their website … I personally feel the complete site should not have been given rights or such to exist at all.  Its just a place for sickos to act out their vile and disgusting self of a so called human being!

                                                  I have not watched the video myself and from the comments here I am glad I have not … however, I prefer not to visit youtube fullstop and I have banned my daughter from logging on there too.

                                                  What a sick world we live in.

                                                   

                                                   

                                                   


                                                • osprey
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                                                    I flagged this piece of art as well.  Binkles, I added an additional warning to your original post to warn people that there is offensive language used in the user comments on this video.


                                                  • Binkles
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                                                      Right. Thanks Osprey.


                                                    • MimzMum
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                                                        You know, it’s a shame we can’t get this video seen by some authorities that would put a person like this away for 190 years. The conviction would be airtight with the dirty deed caught on tape.

                                                        Isn’t there any way to report someone like this to his local long arm of the law? Seriously I think a creep like this needs to be put away!


                                                      • Kokaneeandkahlua
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                                                          Guys you don’t have to watch, I couldn’t I just paused it as soon as it started and flagged it. There are three pages of comments thank goodness not everyone is a knuckle dragging, inbred *%*#*@&#@&$&!!!


                                                        • xXPanicXx
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                                                            thad be awsome if we knew what area he lived in cuz then we could report him near there.


                                                          • kimberleyanddarren
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                                                              has anyone heard anything back? why ahvent they removed it yet?


                                                            • Bob
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                                                                I’ve tracked down many losers from another forum I moderated.  Many people use the same name on many forums.  Seems that this loser says he’s 30 years old on his YouTube page.  Sadly, there’s not much even on a Google search for his YouTube screen name.

                                                                This is the loser from the YouTube video, listed as 30 y/o – The Bunny Killer.

                                                                Bunny Killer

                                                                  Still investigating…


                                                              • kimberleyanddarren
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                                                                  wow you do have some good skills there! keep us updated!


                                                                • Sarita
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                                                                    That is just horrible! That would be great if you could track him down Wascawy.

                                                                    That is such a huge problem with Youtube. I tried to flag it but I guess I don’t subscribe – I thought I had.

                                                                    It does look like he’s gotten some comments of disgust but he probably gets off on those.


                                                                  • LittlePuffyTail
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                                                                      Just thought I would add this. About 6 months or so ago, I read an article that two men (not sure where but I think it was the US) posted a video of them torturing and beheading a pet rabbit and they were caught and charged for cruelty to animals. There was no info on how they got caught but someone who knew them saw the video on YouTube and reported it.

                                                                      Again, I urge you all to boycott YouTube. There has been too much of this sick stuff on there. I was outraged and officially boycotted YouTube when I learned of several videos of kids feeding rabbits to snakes while taunting and torturing them were not removed as YouTube did not consider them animal abuse.

                                                                      And it’s not just rabbits, what about that soldier overseas who threw the puppy off a cliff? There’s enough sickos in the world lets not create an outlet for them to showcase their illness


                                                                    • Sarita
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                                                                        LPT – I totally agree about boycotting Youtube. It seems there are all kinds of violations allowed on this website.

                                                                        Even though it’s not “illegal” it’s not moral and it seems to just encourage this type of behavior. I just don’t understand how they can justify even if it’s free speech or whatever that it is okay to allow this. Cruelty to animals is illegal just like child pornography and they don’t allow that on the internet.

                                                                        I do think that their are positive things about these websites too however and that’s what they should be encouraging with these websites.


                                                                      • osprey
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                                                                          There are a lot of whackos and trolls out there, unfortunately.  The flip side of the whole YouTube debate is that it is becoming more and more important for rescue organizations and animal welfare in general.  We put videos about adoptables and rabbit care up on YouTube, and there are lots and lots of videos of rabbits binkying and zooming and just being rabbits on there.  There are also very depressing videos of what the inside of shelter is like, what a euthanasia is like, etc., that I think it is important for people to know about.

                                                                          I allow comments on my videos, but I watch them very closely.  I get a few inappropriate comments about what stupid pets bunnies are, how they should be snake food, etc.  I just delete those and ban the users from commenting further.  There is an alternative called PetVideo that is run by PetFinder.  There are a lot fewer trolls there, but a much more limited audience.


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                                                                            WascawayWabbit -I didn’t want to mention this…but…yes I do believe he has a MySpace page.

                                                                            If you look at the ‘statistics and data’ for the video, it says it was linked from THIS myspace page 18 times:

                                                                            http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=286465151

                                                                            This is definitely our man. If we wanted to report him to authorities, he effectively dug his own grave.


                                                                          • Sarita
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                                                                              It says he lives in Big Bear, CA so you would need to find someone out there to help. I wonder if they have a humane society or something. You would have to be careful though that he doesn’t catch on and pull the video which is the only evidence you have.


                                                                            • kralspace
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                                                                                you could do some screen captures of the youtube page and save them for evidence


                                                                              • Binkles
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                                                                                  I’ve…already got a ‘BBB’ folder going on my computer and have downloaded the video to it along with a bunch of his MySpace pictures. I’m about to HyperCam everything on his MySpace and YouTube right now.


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                                                                                    I wonder too since it’s a wild rabbit if the Parks and Wildlife should be notified – I don’t think there is an actual hunting season for rabbits though and I only mention hunting because of another story I heard concerning ducks and cruelty. I’ll see if I can find anything on California Parks & Wildlife on who to notify.


                                                                                  • xXPanicXx
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                                                                                      LOL this is awsome. its like a little bunny group doing a whole CSI thinger. this is awsomly neat.


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                                                                                        i dont no if this help, but i got the number for the humane society in big bear, CA. i can find if they have like an email we could put all the info on.

                                                                                        Humane Society 909-866-5555

                                                                                        EDIT: i also found the map LOL i no that wont do anything but i mean it has the P.O box number and stuff so lets see what we can do with it.

                                                                                        http://www.animalshelter.org/shelters/Big_Bear_Valley_Humane_Society_rId388_rS_pC.html


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                                                                                          http://www.dfg.ca.gov/enforcement/caltip.aspx

                                                                                          Here is the contact information for California Department of Fish and Game – I think it’s worth contacting them to see what they say or if they can steer you to someone who they think might help.  This is a wild rabbit and there regulations do say something about cottontails but I’m not certain where this would fall or anything – it’s a place to start.


                                                                                        • Binkles
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                                                                                            Ooh, yes. Thanks Panic.

                                                                                            Well, I got the whole thing on video now. The YouTube video -his description of it and its category placement, the statistics and data leading to his myspace page, his myspace page, comments on his myspace page regarding the video (which are equally appalling..), and his photos.

                                                                                            What makes the whole thing better is that his MySpace address is a first and last name…so we have a possible full name. o.O Idiot..

                                                                                            Edit: And thanks Sarita.


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                                                                                              wow keep us all posted guys! do u think we should all email? maybe they will take more notice?


                                                                                            • Sarita
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                                                                                                I think we should just let Binkles email or call since she has all the information and she can keep us informed and suggest if she wants us to do anything.


                                                                                              • Binkles
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                                                                                                  =x I’m going to have to do all that later though, if that’s okay with you guys. I’ve got all the evidence on my hard drive, so even if he does delete anything, I’ve got it all right here.


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                                                                                                    keep us posted binkles!


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                                                                                                      thats awsome >.< im glad somthing might happen.


                                                                                                    • Sarita
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                                                                                                        http://www.youtube.com/t/community_guidelines

                                                                                                        It does say on their guidelines not to post “bad stuff” like animal abuse so hopefully they will review this and delete it.  So it’s good that you have all the evidence Binkles.


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                                                                                                          Wow! I missed a whole morning of fun. That’s definitely the guy – same birthmark on the left cheek. Glad I didn’t post about that other guy prematurely. I would HIGHLY recommend to everyone to NOT contact him personally or directly in any way. No comments on his page, no e-mails, NOTHING that will tip the hand and possibly spoil a case against him. This thread is enough already. Simply save everything, report everything to the authorities (ALL OF THEM) and let them handle it. Don’t give him a reason to make it personal with you. Though it is an emotional issue for many of us, this isn’t personal, it’s just “business”.

                                                                                                          Binkles, you’re as dangerous as me! Fantastic work!  I had to get some rest at 2 AM!

                                                                                                          FYI – Everyone, no matter what you think or what you’ve been told, there is no such thing as anonymity on the internet.


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                                                                                                            Wow, I missed some serious news! You guys have done great!
                                                                                                            Yes, the ninja technique is best….”Avenge bunneh and vanish without trace!”

                                                                                                            *psh* This guy’s just lucky he WASN’T the one listed in Fairbanks…. I could round up a serious posse here, pardners!

                                                                                                            Binkles, Panic, Wascawy….you guys are my heroes! (And the poor bunny’s too!) YOU GO!


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                                                                                                              If he’s married to Anita, I have his home phone number. No way for me to check that though…


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                                                                                                                *urgh* Who would marry a.. a…THING like that? >_<


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                                                                                                                  BINKLES you are awesome

                                                                                                                  AND I just wanted to say, a rabbit named Lucky was taken from his home, abused (won’t go into it here) and it was videotaped and posted on youtube. (rabbit actually was fine) AND the guy was arrested charged and convicted.

                                                                                                                  SO THIS IS NOT FUTILE !!!

                                                                                                                  Binkles if theres anything I can do to help you let me know!!


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                                                                                                                    K&K … oh my … this guy is one CREEP … was this taken off youtube I wonder.  Some d*cks do not learn … what goes around comes around I say … he will get what he deserves one day … and hopefully he will have to suffer.

                                                                                                                    Hey, all you guys over there are wonderful .. you all deserve gold medals!


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                                                                                                                      Incredible detective work!

                                                                                                                      And I wholeheartedly I agree with WascawyWabbit – use the information you have received ONLY to contact the authorities. Do not contact this person directly.  Some people that are like this with animals can be freaks all around and hurt people too.

                                                                                                                      The thread alone, because his name is in the the thread, will be able to be searched easily enough. In few days, someone can just type in his name, and the search engines will direct to this thread.    SO, since you all have an edit mode, I would suggest that if you used his name, you just put in BBB asap.

                                                                                                                      Google may still direct  back to this for a few days until the search has been refreshed to BBB. Make sense?


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                                                                                                                        oh my i didnt think of that O.O


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                                                                                                                          OK BB’s right as much as I want to lure this guy to his own doom not a good idea to contact him himself.


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                                                                                                                            What is also just disgusting are the comments he got on his myspace page.. Some people thought it was funny. One person even said, it made their day. After what I’ve seen and heard over the years, I don’t know why I am still shocked, but I am.  Makes me feel like I stepped into an episode of the “Twilight Zone” or “Tales from the Darkside”


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                                                                                                                              The one thing I do worry about though is that we don’t know where it happened or when which is what officials will probably want to know. So don’t be disappointed if they really cannot do anything.

                                                                                                                              Just because the SOB lives there doesn’t mean it happened there.

                                                                                                                              This video has really disturbed me and kept me up.


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                                                                                                                                I couldn’t watch it…sounds like it was very bad


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                                                                                                                                  i dont think youtube cares, we have all flagged it and every video flagged is checked, if they were going to remove it they would have done so by now, i would seriously beat the sh*t out of someone if i caught them doing that in a field or whatever, it would be one of those things i just couldnt stop myself. Anyway keep us posted, this is really good going well done guys!


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                                                                                                                                    i think we are gonna hafta stop it our self. every man for himself.


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                                                                                                                                      Like I said they have charged someone before with animal cruelty based on a youtube video…so I think the authorities should be contacted, with the link to the movie and his myspace page.


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                                                                                                                                        The video has been removed from youtube.


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                                                                                                                                          it has? WOOHOO! awesome !! someone should have saved it though or did someone? 😐


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                                                                                                                                            Is there anyway to know if the user deleted it or if the YouTube admins took it off?


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                                                                                                                                              YAY! I think Youtube must have removed it LPT because at the top it says it was removed for terms of violation or something in a red bar across the top.

                                                                                                                                              I guess they must have to review quite a few videos each day which are flagged which is why it took them awhile to get it down.


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                                                                                                                                                OH! Fabulous news! And no, it doesn’t really matter that they took it down -I have a copy of it on my computer along with a video showing his YouTube/ MySpace pages. Still going to report this to his local SPCA. Just need to find the time -right now, I’m uber preoccupied with building Little-Bit’s condo.

                                                                                                                                                And today I have a bad case of vertigo, so everything’s on-hold. D:


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                                                                                                                                                  http://www.rabbit.org/rabbit-center/lucky/sf-crronicle.htm

                                                                                                                                                  Here’s the story I think you were referring to K&K.

                                                                                                                                                  Binkles – you might want to contact the HRS in Richmond and see if they can give you some tips on how they caught these people or just some tips!


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                                                                                                                                                    aw how can people be so cruel?


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                                                                                                                                                      I’m glad to hear the video was removed. I also pray that this freak doesn’t go into a rage over losing his personal sideshow spot and hurt more bunnies.


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                                                                                                                                                        I am also so glad to hear that the video was removed!! Good work everyone for letting YouTube know and keeping on them about it.


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                                                                                                                                                          THATS AWSOME >.< so i guess we dont need to report him to the humane society.. do we?


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                                                                                                                                                            I am too so glad that the vid has been removed, but still extremely heartbreaking that a person can do something like that (I never watched the vid).  I cannot watch things like that either.

                                                                                                                                                            Big hugs to All of you here.


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                                                                                                                                                              Woot woot!  The flagging worked:

                                                                                                                                                              This video has been removed due to terms of use violation.

                                                                                                                                                               


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                                                                                                                                                                i didnt watch it either dawn, i just cant i know it happens in the world but i still cant bring myself to watch it.


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                                                                                                                                                                  I also didn’t watch it. If I watch something like that I can’t get it out of my mind for a long time. I don’t have to see the evil to want to help.


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                                                                                                                                                                    i hope i never catch someone actually doing something harmful to an animal, because (im a pretty big girl at 6ft and i weight train so i can pack a pretty good punch!) i would do the exact same thing to them, its the only thing in the world that really makes me see red, the kinda thing that i couldnt even stop myself. I do everything i can to help but i would rather not know what i am helping for? I also hate vets who put animals down because the owner says ‘oh he is stupid or lazy or i just cant be bothered’ the vet i take the dogs to personally rehomes any animal which is brought in by an owner who doesnt want him/her rather than just putting it to sleep. Im glad the video was removed lets hope Binkles can get somewhere with reporting this!


                                                                                                                                                                  • Lisa_43
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                                                                                                                                                                      Great work everyone, I also could not watch. I hope he can still be charged with animal cruelty.


                                                                                                                                                                    • xXPanicXx
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                                                                                                                                                                        but the sad thing about this was once it was removed, we were SOOO proud, and hes probably just like. “my vid. got removed. meh w.e” v.v LOL this dont stop the beast thats rlly inside.


                                                                                                                                                                      • JamieM
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                                                                                                                                                                          I’ve been reading this thread and am very interested in what ends up happening! This guy did something bad and the thing is, if he thought to videotape it, he obviously has done it before. If there’s any help I can lend to getting the authorities involved, let me know. Seems as though everybody has done some great (and impressive) detective work though!


                                                                                                                                                                        • xXPanicXx
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                                                                                                                                                                            thats probably true to!! v.v the nerve of some people.


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                                                                                                                                                                              great job getting this pathetic excuse for a human’s video removed.  your efforts are worth it!  it may be too late to make an impact on the twisted mind of the idiot who made the video but at least it sends a clear message to all of the pathetic people who wrote encouraging comments that they are in the minority.


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                                                                                                                                                                                =x I just want to pop in real quick to let everyone know that I haven’t abandoned this investigation-!!

                                                                                                                                                                                I AM going to contact his local SPCA, police, and and any other related organizations I can find in his area and send them my materials.

                                                                                                                                                                                Also, if anyone here lives close to Bear Lake, CA, or is in close contact with any rescues, etc in the area, let me know! It certainly would probably help if I can have citation from someone who lives closer to him than I do.


                                                                                                                                                                              • kimberleyanddarren
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                                                                                                                                                                                  keep us posted binkles!


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                                                                                                                                                                                    Great work Binkles and everyone! Glad to hear the video is finally down.

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