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FORUM HOUSE RABBIT Q & A Got Momo spayed yesterday… advice please!!!

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    • LizzieKnittyBun
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        I hate being annoying and adding yet another spaying thread…. but I’ve practically been shaking with anxiety since yesterday morning. 

        Momo got spayed (by a terrific doctor) yesterday around noon.  Since then, we’ve been giving her antibiotics and pain medicine with no problems, and the incision area looks fine.  She’s in an area where she can’t jump up on things and she’s been hopping around a little and resting a lot.  She hasn’t wanted to eat much except for a couple of raisins and a few handfuls of herbs that I picked for her. 

        Here’s the basis of my anxiety – no poops yet.

        I read on the last forum that that was fairly normal, but I needed to watch it.  If she got spayed yesterday around noon, when should I take her back to the vet if I still haven’t seen a poop?  Tomorrow at noon?  Tomorrow morning?

        I just can’t stop shaking.  This entire process was so easy with Remy.  He was eating and pooping the night after with no problems!!  Why are girls so much more difficult???  I know it’s more invasive, but I’m a wreck.

        Please let me know about that poop/vet decision, and I would also love some kind words from you, my friends.


      • <3 tallulah
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          im in no way an expert at all but i just got my girl bunny spayed a couple weeks ago. i would call your vet as soon as you can. My bun wasnt pooping for 2days but it was weekend n my vets was closed, i called monday morning n within 20mins they had her up at the vets. they kept her in untill the wednesday and gave her 2 sets of jags to get her bowels moving again. it was sooo nerve raccking but shes back to normal and cheeky as ever now even the vet said she was a little madame lol


        • Sarita
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            Well, it’s good she is eating something. It can take two or three days for normal eating to return. I think to ease your anxiety if you don’t see any poops by tomorrow noon, call the vet.


          • LizzieKnittyBun
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              Oh gosh Tallulah… I can’t even imagine. I’m lucky that it’s Wednesday and the vet will be open if I need them tomorrow.

              In the meantime, I just need to quit nervous breakdown-ing…


            • Elrohwen
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                If it makes you feel any better, Otto wasn’t really pooping until at least 24 hours after his neuter, but he came around just fine. Luckily, the vet keeps all rabbits for observation, so I felt that he was in good hands during this period. They wouldn’t let him leave until he was 100% again.

                If I were you, I’d take her in tomorrow morning if she’s still not pooping. I would just be much more comfortable with a doctor dealing with it rather than myself.

                Good luck to her!


              • skunklionshow
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                  I’ve gone through 2 spays….I got about 2 maybe 5 tiny poops after 24 hrs.  Actually I think that was Jessica, Chewbacca I let go almost 2 days b/c it seemed like she pottied (slightly) within the 48 hrs.  However, I have learned peace of mind is more important than anything.  I say, if only slight or less potty by tomorrow and only a pittance of eating by tomorrow AM, I’d take her in.

                  Did you get any critical care?  W/ Chewie after less than 1 day on CC, she started to return, slowly to eating.  I think she hated being force fed.  Remember all vets are different and your vet may want you to contact after 24 hrs w/ only slight potty & food.  Whereas others might be willing to push it to 36-48 hrs.  Talk to the vet & get some rest.  You watching her isn’t going to make her potty or eat (that’s what my DH had to remind me repeatedly


                • RabbitPam
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                    I’m a big believer in calling vets, especially right after any visit or procedure. A phone call doesn’t necessarily mean a trip to the vet, but is easy to get reassurance and advice for the night or told what to do tomorrow. It’s her obligation to be available to you for any questions, so if you haven’t called yet, and she hasn’t pooped yet, by all means at least leave a message.

                    Be sure she has water and very, very moist greens. Even a slurry of ground pellets might not be bad if you don’t have any Critical Care. just that liquids are good for moving the digestive tract.


                  • jerseygirl
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                      {{{MOMO}}}
                      Did she eat a good amount before the op?


                    • LizzieKnittyBun
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                        SHE POOPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Six or seven small, slightly smudgy poops! I have never been so happy to see poop before. I was so relieved I actually burst into tears.

                        Thank you guys so much for helping me through this. I finally think she’s going to be okay.

                        ::wipes tears::


                      • RabbitPam
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                          Woo Hoo!!!!!

                          That’s excellent.


                        • Kokaneeandkahlua
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                            AWESOME!!!

                            Never feel bad for starting a thread when your worried

                            The meds from surgery, pain meds AND antibiotics can ALL cause mushy poops, small poops and just general poop disturbances-as long as it’s coming out -which it is-WONDERFUL!!

                            CHEERS for Poopies


                          • LizzieKnittyBun
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                              haha!! That’s what I figured. Better out than in ; )

                              I’m pretty sure she’s feeling better… and therefore getting a little bored. Chewing has resumed. I put toys in there and she even binkied!

                              I seriously was so relieved when I saw those poops I had a big cry. I was just so overwhelmed.

                              You guys are amazing. Thank you so much for helping me through this!!


                            • Cassi&Charlie
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                                It’s amazing how attached we get to our little furry friends! I’ve cried when Charlie’s pooped several times now because I’ve been so relieved.

                                Always ask questions when your worried! Even if we can’t offer much in the way of advice, we can offer support


                              • Kokaneeandkahlua
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                                  BAH we just all appreciate bunny poops lol


                                • LizzieKnittyBun
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                                    Also, I discovered that if you chop up a couple of raisins with a drop of honey in your antibiotics/pain meds… they lick it right up!! Thank goodness because she was *not* enjoying the force-feed…


                                  • wendyzski
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                                      or moosh it into a little blob of applesauce.


                                    • LizzieKnittyBun
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                                        ooh… good idea!


                                      • wendyzski
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                                          I’ve got a chronic pasteurella bun who spent more than 8 months on various antibiotics.  She also has a TON of rabbitude.  If she wasn’t so food-driven we would not have survived.  A blob of applesauce or canned pumpkin (not pie filling) usually does the trick, or if it’s a small dose like her probiotic I just drizzle it over her pellets.


                                        • LizzieKnittyBun
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                                            haha!!  Thank goodness for greedy buns!

                                            When do you guys think I can let her out?  She was spayed mid-day on Tuesday, but she’s bored as hell in her x-pen.  Just played with her for a while and took some pics.  I think she looks great, but I don’t want to let her out too soon. 


                                          • BinkyBunny
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                                              Normally at LEAST three days of confinement where she can’t jump and run around too much, but some vets prefer 7 days. What did your vet say?


                                            • jerseygirl
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                                                So sweet! Are she and Remy still good pals?


                                              • LizzieKnittyBun
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                                                  Called the vet yesterday and they said give it at least a couple more days, so I’m going to let her out tomorrow. Poor thing is SO READY to be free again. She runs to the edge of the x-pen and periscopes whenever I enter the room!

                                                  She and Remy are still pals, but I think he’s confused as to why she’s in there. I let him in a few times a day so that they don’t forget about each other. Oh, and for some reason they’ve both taken to shoving their noses into each others’ crotches……….. I obviously stop him from doing it just in case he musses up her incision site, but what do you guys think this means?

                                                  Also, yesterday afternoon he nipped her and pulled out some fur!! I was shocked. That’s so unlike him. I checked her thoroughly and I couldn’t find any broken skin, so she’s fine. I wonder if he smells the incision area or something and it’s upsetting him? But then they go back to licking and nomming each other and binkying back and forth, so they’re obviously still great friends.

                                                  Thoughts?


                                                • Beka27
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                                                    You may have to go thru some abbreviated bonding sessions to get them together full-time after she’s healed, but it sounds like things are going great! It’s really hard to keep them penned up that long when you just want them to come out and play! She is beautiful by the way! I love mini rexes!


                                                  • LizzieKnittyBun
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                                                      Aw, thank you Beka! I’m SO relieved the worst is over….!


                                                    • RabbitPam
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                                                        She may have a different scent from the surgery, but she also may have her own scent changed a bit due to the hormones adjusting. It takes about 3-4 weeks for them to fully die down, but then she should be settled. I wouldn’t do any real bonding with them until then.

                                                        Sounds like she’s recovering really well. If you’re home tomorrow, you could probably let her out supervised. Are her stitches dissolving or do you need to go back for their removal? If you have to take her in, you might wait until that’s done. Doesn’t sound like that’s your situation, however.


                                                      • LizzieKnittyBun
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                                                          Yeah, they’re the dissolving kind, thank goodness. The vet said tomorrow should be fine to let her out. I’m sooooo ready for it.


                                                        • LizzieKnittyBun
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                                                            Was just witness to two interesting moments of behavioral bunnitude.

                                                            First of all… Momo/Mommy breakthrough when Momo licked my forehead for almost ten seconds!! Score!

                                                            Second… Remy and Momo and I were all in her x-pen, and they were hopping around and on top of me and having a great time. And then Momo went up to Remy and lay down, and he faced her and lay down and they were nose to nose for almost a full minute, as if they were having a staring contest. Then Remy pushed his head under hers, and she pulled away. He pushed further, she pulled back… he finally gave one more push and she started licking his head, which went on for several minutes. I guess he won…

                                                            But minutes later he was licking her!!

                                                            Ah, buns.


                                                          • Beka27
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                                                              Grooming is great! I’d continue to do some short, closely supervised sessions with them to preserve the bond they have, but I’d still wait for her to be thoroughly healed (just in case!) before moving on to longer, unsupervised visits.


                                                            • LizzieKnittyBun
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                                                                Ugh… I’m so upset. I had one of those short, supervised visits this morning outside of the x-pen, and Remy attacked her!! He’s such a sweet bunny, I could hardly believe it. No broken skin, but he had a clump of her fur in his mouth. I haven’t been this shocked about something in a long time…

                                                                Why is he so nice to her in her pen but not out of it? How did my sweet, loving Remy turn into this fierce attack bunny??

                                                                Help!


                                                              • Beka27
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                                                                  Whoa! It could be a territory thing. In her space he’s fine… in his space, not so much. Maybe I will retract my initial statement and encourage you to wait a bit longer. I don’t want her to get hurt and then you end up with a hefty ER bill :o(

                                                                  What kind of set-up do you have for them? Is there neutral space you can do sessions?


                                                                • LizzieKnittyBun
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                                                                    I know! I can hardly believe my sweet Remy did something so savage. I’ll try again later and see what happens.


                                                                  • Kokaneeandkahlua
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                                                                      Awww 
                                                                      Do you have neutral places where neither have been? A lot of use the bathtub because for the most part bunnies just don’t hang out in tubs

                                                                      You just line it with towels and sit ready for fights (ie. wear gloves and have a water spray bottle-if you want pictures have someone help &#160

                                                                      Here is Rupert and Kahlua tub bonding

                                                                       

                                                                       

                                                                       

                                                                      Also-when we did move to non-neutral space bonding-it’s important to ensure that they have room to escape-so a square small space will just allow cornering-where as some turns, more space or a few objects to run around -allow escape. This is only going to work if one is aggressive-not both. If both want to fight-they will because no one will be running away.

                                                                      http://s213.photobucket.com/albums/…bbits2.flv

                                                                      Rupert and Kahlua in the hallway, early stages, with a vaccum to give escape.


                                                                    • LizzieKnittyBun
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                                                                        Thanks for the advice (and CUTE bonding pics). She’s been out for a little while now and after a little chasing, things seem to have died down. I think maybe he got freaked out because she wasn’t around for a while, except for in a little space in the kitchen.

                                                                        I’ll keep you posted!!!


                                                                      • Denise12
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                                                                          Aww…i’m glad she’s ok.
                                                                          I’m soooo nervous about getting Buster spayed in a couple of months too
                                                                          Soooooo scary.


                                                                        • LizzieKnittyBun
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                                                                            Aw, well if I’ve learned anything… it’s that BOYS ARE EASIER

                                                                            The buns are bonded again, thank goodness! I was really worried.

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