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    • jagx30
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        I posted about a month ago on here about our new lop, Hennessy, who was very agressive toward the lop we already had, Molly. After an initial introduction turned into a brutal fight, we decided to allow them to have cages near each other for a month before we attempted any more bonding. However, last night, Hennessy managed to get out of his cage and into Molly’s cage in the night and attacked her. We still can’t quite figure out how he did it… they both live in homemade 3″ high cages with sheets tied to the tops… it looks like he managed to chew a hole in his sheet and then jump onto her sheet and knock it down. Anyway, this morning we found him still in her cage and her out running around… lots of her fur around but she doesn’t seem injured.

        Does anybody think there is a chance they could ever bond after this? I would think by now she really hates his guts and sees him as a predator. I don’t want to put her through any more attacks or have her live in fear of him. I feel really guilty for what Molly has been through, she is a very sweet bunny and I was just trying to give her a companion.

        Advice would be appreciated!


      • BinkyBunny
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           I went back to read your orignal post — did you ever find out how long ago he was neutered?  

          Is he aggressive at all with you or anyone else in the house?  And if so, are there particular times when he is?  Like when you are changing things around or giving food.  

          Though it can create a bit of a set-back to have such a nasty fight happen, don’t lose all hope.  There have been members like Markus who had bunnies that really just wanted to kill each other and they went through some hard knocks, but they did bond.  He did however take them to a rescue (SaveABunny) that offered bonding services and that helped thank goodness, as I know Markus had tried everything.  

          Have you tried stress bonding?  Car rides etc?   I’m not saying do that right now, as after such a nasty fight, you may want things to get settled down first– and make sure that no wounds or injuries are hidden somehow. 

          Another method that may help is the “stunt double”.   Basically a toy bunny that has Molly’s scent on it — you can brush Molly’s fur and then take all of that fur from the comb and put it all over the toy bunny.  I know this part sounds gross, but you can take the back-end of the toy bunny and put it in Molly litterbox.  

          Most likely when you put that “stunt double” into Hennessy cage with Molly’s scent all over it, he may attack it, but the hope is that once he finally settles down and gets use to it, he will get used to her too eventually.   I used this for Jack because he is so humpy, and he can wear himself out on the stunt double rather than bugging Vivian so much.  If he gets used to it, you can make moves with the stunt double — like have it groom Hennessy, have it asked to be groomed. (wear gloves though during this time though!)

          Doesn’t mean that Hennessy won’t be upset if he meets Molly later, and she ends up being more bossy than the very passive “stunt double” but maybe he’ll at least give her a chance. 

          Another technique to protect your Molly when you are first introducing again in a neutral territory is use a large thin netted strainer.  I learned this trick from SaveABunny too.   With a strainer, they can see and smell each other, but if he decides to attack you can stop it before he actually gets to her. (and wear gloves because you will get bit if he’s ready to fight–and as your husband has found it, bunny bites really hurt. Their teeth can latch on which is how they can hold on with their teeth and kick with their back feet during a fight….brutal fighers bunnies are!!)

          By the way:  Do you know much about Hennessy’s past?


        • jagx30
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            Thanks for responding. I won’t give up yet!

            Hennessy was one year old in February and I don’t know why he was surrendered to the humane society. I called them and they said he was neutered before he was surrendered, and he was checked out by a vet there, and that’s all they knew. He’s seems like he is very healthy, shiny coat and good weight. He was a little territorial about his cage when he first arrived at our house, but now I can reach in there and clean stuff up and move things around and he just looks at me. I can pick him up when necessary, and he doesnt’ love it but he doesnt’ really fight me. When I let him out to play, he LOVES me… sits next to me to be petted forever and then bumps my hand with his forehead when I stop. So, no, he’s not aggressive with people.

            I did go get two stuffed bunnies (Easter season makes this easy) and put them in each of their cages. I have traded them twice between cages and neither time did Hennessy really pay much attention to the one that came from her cage and had her scent on it. He certainly didn’t attack it.

            I will get a strainer and probably try the stress bonding here soon. I will also google the Michigan Rabbit rescue and see if they have any bonding experts.  Thanks again!

             


          • Jend013
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              I had a similar experience. At the time my two females were unspayed, and while I was in the shower Cheerio (netherland dwarf) squeezed between the baby gate separating her and Pumpkin (mini rex). When I found them there was some fur on the floor and two very tired rabbits. I had tried to introduce them prior (as someone else on the forum had two unspayed bonded females) but they just ended up fighting. They would also box and bite at each other between the gate and their x-pens which were right next to each other.  But after the fight it stopped. They actually seemed to want to see each other. The big fight seemed to take care of everything. I put them on the bed together one day, and there was some chasing, and poor Cheerio was scared, but there was no fighting. After trying this a few times I finally just let them out together. The chasing decreased pretty quickly and they bonded. It took some time for Cheerio to trust Pumpkin though. After Pumpkin’s spay they got into another fight (to my surprise), but the same thing happened. Some chasing, but no more fighting. Now they are bonded and living together. So in my experience the fight had a good ending.


            • DawnT
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                The stress bonding for my buns worked.

                Oreo (mom) free range and Bubba (her son) was caged for two years with a lot of play time out. We called Bubba a kept man because Oreo would groom him thru the cage, she would lay by his cage. Bubba would be left out of his cage when Oreo would go to bed. He would the living all to himself and eat her food, use her liter pan. One day my daughter left Bubba out not realizing that Oreo was stil downstairs, she chased him into the bedroom. My daughter called me at work. I told her to stay in the bedroom with them. She said that they were both hiding under the bed.

                What it all came down to was they realized they were more afraid of my daughter then eachother and they became the best of friends

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