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Forum DIET & CARE bagged greens and e.coli

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    • Ester Yeh
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        I’m sure you all have heard about the bagged spinach and the E.coli problem right now.   I’ve been getting alot of emails on my etherbun mailing list about this. I havne’t read through them all yet because it was ALOT of emails haha.  But I have read some and one person said that you should be careful using any bagged veggies since bacteria can be easily trapped that way.  He also said that using organc produce has been his main problem and he guessed that E.coli was the main culprit.

        Bagged veggies also run a greater risk of botulism because oxygen is removed from the bags to make the greens last longer & they are packed with nitrogen or some other gas.

        I just thought i’d share even tho im sure most of you know this already

        I was just wondering how everyone here prepared their greens before giving it to their buns? Do you just simply rinse it in water or do you do something else?


      • Elena Niznik
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          I just simply rinse it with water but i cut the very top off the leaf, i dunno why I do this i think it cuts the germy bits off that sticks out the plastic pack it comes in.


        • Bunnies4ever
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            I just read that rinsing the spinach does NOT get rid of the bacteria, but boiling it does.


          • Ester Yeh
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              Im not quite sure if i remember this correctly but i had heard somethign about washing greens with something called HR…


            • BinkyBunny
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                New_obsession –   Great post!!   I actually did not know this.   Partly because I have never use bagged greens and veggies. This is great information, and I am going to research bagged and organic greens/veggies further.    I love learning something new, even if it’s old news.   

                I do only use water.   I used to use a veggie washer, but no matter how well I rinsed the greens, two of my bunnies would get loose stools.   So now I only use water.  But what I do is get a large bowl.  I fill it with water and fully submerge my greens and rub them together and really wash with light friction, then I put them into a strainer and run water over them to rinse further.

                 


              • Ester Yeh
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                  SAN FRANCISCO – Less than a week after the Food and Drug
                  Administration lifted its warning on fresh spinach grown in
                  California’s Salinas Valley, a popular brand of lettuce grown there
                  was recalled Sunday over concerns about E. coli contamination.

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                  The lettuce does not appear to have caused any illnesses, the
                  president of Salinas-based Nunes Co. Inc. said.

                  The lettuce scare comes amid other federal warnings that some brands
                  of spinach, bottled carrot juice and recent shipments of beef could
                  cause grave health risks — including paralysis, respiratory failure
                  and death.

                  Executives ordered the recall after learning that irrigation water
                  may have been contaminated with E. coli, said Tom Nunes Jr.,
                  president of the company.

                  So far, company investigators have not found E. coli bacteria in the
                  lettuce itself, Nunes stressed.

                  "We’re just reacting to a water test only. We know there’s generic
                  E. coli on it, but we’re not sure what that means," he said. "We’re
                  being extra careful. This is precautionary. "

                  The recall covers green leaf lettuce purchased in grocery stores
                  Oct. 3-6 in Arizona, California, Nevada, Washington, Oregon, Idaho
                  and Montana. It was also sold to distributors in those states who
                  may have sold it to restaurants or institutions.

                  The recalled lettuce was packaged as "Green Leaf 24 Count, waxed
                  carton," and "Green Leaf 18 Count, cellophane sleeve, returnable
                  carton." Packaging is stamped with lot code 6SL0024.

                  FDA spokeswoman Julie Zawisza said the agency is aware of the
                  voluntary recall but had no details.

                  "As a standard course of action, we would expect the firm to
                  identify the source of the contamination and take steps to …
                  ensure that it doesn’t happen again," Zawisza wrote in an e-mail.

                  It’s unlikely that the bacteria in the lettuce fields share the
                  source of the E. coli found in spinach that has sickened nearly 200
                  people and has been linked to three deaths nationwide, Nunes said.

                  Pathogenic Escherichia coli bacteria, or E. coli, can proliferate in
                  uncooked produce, raw milk, unpasteurized juice, contaminated water
                  and meat. When consumed, it may cause diarrhea and bloody stools.

                  Although most healthy adults recover within a week without long-term
                  side effects, some people may develop a form of kidney failure.

                  That illness is most likely to occur in young children, senior
                  citizens and people with compromised immune systems. In extreme
                  cases, it can lead to kidney damage or death.

                  The recall at Nunes Co., a family-owned business with more than
                  20,000 acres of cropland in Arizona and California, comes days after
                  federal agents searched two Salinas Valley produce companies
                  connected to the nationwide spinach scare.

                  Epidemiologists also warned consumers last week to stay away from
                  some bottled carrot juice after a Florida woman was paralyzed and
                  three people in Georgia experienced respiratory failure, apparently
                  due to botulism poisoning.

                  Also on Friday, an Iowa company announced that it was recalling
                  5,200 pounds of ground beef suspected of having E. coli. The
                  government said no illnesses have been reported from consumption of
                  the beef.

                  The outbreaks have sparked demands to create a new federal agency in
                  charge of food safety. Sens. Charles Schumer and Hillary
                  Rodham Clinton, both New York Democrats, are sponsoring legislation
                  authored by Sen. Richard Durbin (news, bio, voting record), D-Ill.,
                  to create the unified Food Safety Agency.

                  "This recent outbreak must be a wake-up call to get our food safety
                  house in order, because right now it’s in pure disarray," Schumer
                  said at his Manhattan office. "We need to have one agency take
                  charge to ensure the next outbreak isn’t far worse."

                  The outbreaks have also devastated the economy of Salinas Valley,
                  the self-proclaimed "Salad Bowl to the World."

                  Farmers in the area, about 100 miles south of San Francisco, began
                  plowing spinach crops under and laying off workers last month, as
                  government inspectors examined fields and packing houses for the
                  source of the deadly outbreak.

                  Nunes said he upgraded safety inspection protocols in wake of the
                  spinach scare.

                  "There’s a high level of urgency in our industry, and we’re being
                  very proactive," Nunes said. "It’s obviously based upon recent
                  events in the produce industry and concern for customers. We just
                  don’t want anything to happen."

                  http://news. yahoo.com/ s/ap/20061008/ ap_on_re_ us/tainted_ lettuce


                • Gravehearted
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                    this is seriously scary stuff! thanks for sharing the article too


                  • Gina Won
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                      Wow, all this stuff is crazy.

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