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Forum BONDING 2 Dominant Female Lops, failing at bonding

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    • cloverfield.and.clementine
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        Alright, I have two female mini lops and I cannot seem to get them to bond!!!

        Clover, 9 months and spayed, was our first rabbit. She is pretty submissive towards us. Never bit me or thumped at us.

        Clementine, 4 months and not spayed yet, is our second. She is also pretty submissive towards us. But has always been a little more stand off-ish.

        They have been living side by side (three inches apart) for roughly 2 months now. After 6 weeks, they were laying close to each other and seemed to be getting on fine. They get fed at the same time, get their cages switched daily. We tried using stuffed animals with their scents. They are always friendly when they are in their cages!!
        This is when we started bonding sessions in their neutral territory.

        First session: Clover immediately attacked Clementine, cutting her ear open pretty badly. We took her to the vet, got everything checked out and our vet told us to continue bonding sessions (a long with some other advice).

        Second session: The two ignored each other for the longest time, I pet the two and they wound up laying super close together. Things seemed pretty good, so I ended on that high note.

        Third session: The two ignored each other again, until Clemmie demanded to be groomed and Clover refused. Then Clemmie started to attack Clover any time that she got the chance.

        Fourth session: Clemmie continued to attack Clover, super aggressively. We separated them and now we are here

        Please help!!!! We were planning on adding a male within the next year, but dont want to do that if these two cant bond!!! We feel so lost and like horrible rabbit owners


      • kurottabun
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          If Clementine is not spayed yet, the bond is not likely to happen because hormones are still at play. She needs to be spayed when she reaches the appropriate age (most vets can do it at about 6 months to be safe), after which her hormones will take some time to fully die down. Only then can you attempt at bonding them again.

          If the fights become too vicious, one or both of them could hold grudges and it’ll be much more difficult to bond them later on.


        • sarahthegemini
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            Basically everything Kurotta said! I would also add that it would be best right now if you could put the buns in separate rooms so that they can cool off and forget one another. I would do That, get Clementine spayed and let her recover (2 weeks) Then I’d put them in the same room and start prebonding. Usually it’s recommended to pre bond for a month but because yours have fought, I would be extra cautious and pre bond for a little longer.

            When you get to the pre bonding stage, you could try giving each bun a stuffy again. Swap these daily. Hopefully any aggression will be directed at the stuffy and by the time you get to actual sessions, all aggression should have ceased


          • Sirius&Luna
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              Clemmie is attacking Clover because she’s not spayed, and is being hormonal and territorial.

              Since Clemmie has viciously attacked Clover, I would recommend keeping them totally separate, as Sarah said, so that they can forget each other. Then, once Clemmie is spayed you can start pre bonding.

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