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Forum DIET & CARE 12 yr old Dwarf Rabbit – Diet Change

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    • Jenny B.
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        Hello! I have a 12 year old Dwarf rabbit named Duncan. I got him when I was 21, and knew NOTHING about rabbits. He has not been fixed, has never had his nails trimmed, and has for the most part only eaten pellet food. After I read about some other rabbits today, I realize that my little guy is very well-mannered! (especially being that he isn’t fixed) I think I got lucky when I got him.

        Over the past few weeks, I have read & researched a lot of cat food / diet information due to some cat health problems I have. (Easily treated issues, fortunately!) After learning SO MUCH about this subject, I realized I really should learn more about my bun’s diet needs. Which brought me to this site, along with some others I bookmarked.

        Currently he eats Hartz Bonanza Gourmet Diet. I have rarely given him hay, (until recently, when my vet said to give him Timothy hay) let alone fresh veggies! I feel like a bad bunny mom, (I’ve fed & taken care of him the same way for all his life so far) but I am certainly going to continue to research what to feed him. From what little I’ve read I think his diet could clearly be better. Especially for his age.

        I had the vet take a look at him last time she came to see the cats. She felt around his stomach, said she was amazed at how old he was, and that was when she suggested the Timothy hay. (She did not seem concerned that his droppings are now – sorry to be gross – not little balls like they used to be! It’s now – for lack of a better description – soft & poopy. Which further encourages me to re-think what he’s been eating.) I love my vet, but I really don’t think she has much experience w/ rabbits.

        So, I want to make sure my little old-man bunny is as happy and healthy as he possibly can be. Any feedback or suggestions would be MOST appreciated! I’d love to hear of anyone else’s experiences with older bunnies.

        I also want to make sure to not *shock* my little guys system… he’s gone so many years eating the same thing. I’m still in “research” mode, but I’m thinking whatever changes in diet should be very gradual… except for the Timothy hay, seems like he should have lots of that stuff.

        I obviously have a lot more reading to do but still would love to hear anything that anyone would like to share. Thanks so much in advance!


      • bunnytowne
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          Hi Welcome. Wow your little fellow is 12 years old wow. Good for y’all. Well usually it is recommended to feed timothy pellets. Oxbow has them so does Nupreem. Those are the names on the feed bags. You may find them at your petstore. Or call around. And yes gradually phase them in. You are right about them having delicate digestive systems. The hay please feed right away. The timothy is best. You can try meadow and such for variety but avoid the alfalfa everyday. As a treat now n then is fine. OH and you said his poops are soft and squishy not round and solid like br4. It could be his diet. The feed with things in it are not good for them. like the one with seeds and such  Too many calories. The hay helps prevent hairballs and keep their system working good.

          On houserabbit.org they have a diet/feed section and also good vegies and toxic stuff also.  And on this site the front page has some stuff about diet too. Just click on it and away you go.

          Awe your bun sounds great. No hormonal issues like spraying and such thats great.


        • Jenny B.
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            Bunnytowne, thanks so much for the fast reply!

            Timothy Pellets: now added to the list. I’ve looked on houserabbit.org, and also at the diet section on this site. I’ve taken a long list of notes – I feel like I’m in school again, haha!

            The vet that saw him that once seemed to think he’s in good health, but I’m still concerned with the poopy-ness the more I read & think about it. Starting to think about getting him tested – but I’m hesitant to travel to a vet. He’s so old, I don’t want a car ride to stress him out!

            And yes, his current food has lots of seeds in it! (definitley changing that) I always laugh at the fact that he leaves the very small pieces & small seeds, and eats the colorful bits first. He reminds me of a kid eating all of the colorful marshmellows out of their cereal first!

            Once again, thank you so much for the info! It is very much appreciated! (Duncan says “thank you!” also!)


          • kralspace
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              wow! a 12 yr old bunny, that’s amazing! he sounds wonderful. I’ve been through the teenage thing with 3 of my buns and I swear whenever I adopt any more they will be older ones, wheeew. I’m too old for teenagers, even four footed ones.

              Can’t wait to see photos of your guy, welcome!

              Kathy


            • RabbitPam
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                The following links are from  the House Rabbit Society’s website; http://www.rabbit.org, in the CARE section.

                Geriatric Rabbits

                Living With An Elder Bun
                To a Long Life: Geriatric Workups

                JB the Geriatric Rabbit
                For Those Who Want To But Can’t

                You might just want to start reading up on care of Elder rabbits.


              • Beka27
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                  welcome here! his diet is certainly not ideal, but you must be doing something right… 12 years old is typically at the top of their lifespan.

                  i’d also suggest you be so careful changing his diet. you might want to start by picking out the cereal bits and seeds and giving him the straight pellets. i think that even if you don’t change his dry food at this point, you coud start adding in some very basic veggies like romaine, parsley, other dark green leafy veggies and definitely hay. add one at a time and let him eat it for a few days to a week to make sure it does not upset his system.

                  i don’t have any experience with rabbits your age, but i think keeping a close eye on him his very important. as you know, squishy poops are not a good thing. you can partially tell a bunny’s health by the condition of their poop. i’m not sure how much is improper diet, and how much is just old age. if possible, can you try and contact an exotic vet that has experience with rabbits? i think it’s great that your cat vet takes a look at him, but she might have very little experience with what she is looking at. rabbits are very different from other pets.

                  i do want to address what you said about feeling like a bad bunny mom. i believe that could not be further from the truth. you sound like an excellent bunny mom. you have provided him with stable care and love his entire life. many people would have “grown bored” with him after a few years (it’s a common misconception that buns only live to be 4 or so.) but you have kept at it, and by showing that you are willing to research the best diet, that shows how much you love your “little old man bunny”! many of us came from a point of knowing nothing and we have improved upon that. i made every mistake with my first bunny, after learning more, i corrected myself… but he certainly did not live to be 12!!!

                  please keep us posted on what you do. i am really interested to hear what changes you make and how it affects him. and if you have any pics you’d like to share, we would love to see them!


                • RabbitPam
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                    I do want to add, after re-reading my post, that I agree that you are an Excellent bunny mom!!! These articles are not because you need them, but to prepare you for common ailments and conditions that may happen to a bunny with advanced age. Things like arthritis, dental changes, stuff like that. It’s more of a “what to watch for and what to do” link. They seem to think vets need to see an older bun more often, but keeping mindful of changes like soft poops or a change in his weight or mobility may be an early sign of something that should be addressed. Spockie only lived to be 8, and we’re pretty sure his loss of mobility in one back leg was arthritis or bursitis, but with a little daily pain killer (a tylenol-like dose for bunnies) he was more comfortable and mobile.

                    Pictures, please!


                  • Kokaneeandkahlua
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                      Don’t feel like a bad bunny mom at all!! And Welcome to the site!!

                      I’m gonna say that timothy hay (and lots of it) is VERY important, and should actually help make his poops round and dry again. At his age, you can add alfalfa hay as well (it’s higher in calcium and calories) so that should help keep weight on him and be good for his bones. You could feed a handful a day as a treat-I’m sure he’ll love it!


                    • Sarita
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                        12 years old – that’s great! At least your vet knows about timothy hay so that is good.

                        If you tell us where you are located perhaps we can help you find a vet in your area.

                        You sound like a great bunny mom too.


                      • skunklionshow
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                          Wow a 12 y.o. Dwarf!!!  That’s fantastic.  I would agree about the slow change to the diet & stick w/ some stable easy digestible veggies like you do w/ a baby bunny.  I’m wondering if just some tweaks, like you said are most appropriate.  Obviously you have been doing something right, after all he sounds like a happy healthy old man bunny.  It’s hard to want to make many changes when you have been so successful, so I’m wondering if it’s not broke, than don’t worry about fixing it too much

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