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› Forum › HOUSE RABBIT Q & A › Maggots in litter – mortified
So I’m a little embarrassed to say I found some maggots in Nellies litter box when I was changing it š
Obviously I was absolutely horrified and now I am crazy worried she could and maybe Glenn could develop flystrike!
I usually change their litter every 4 days – now im thinking maybe I should do it more often? There are some factors that could have influenced this – I was away on holiday, my boyfriend admitted he may have changed it last on Friday rather than Monday so the litter may have been left a couple days longer than normal. Also we had a massive heatwave in the UK, it hit 40 degrees Celsius here on Tuesday so that may have just heightened everything and the flies had a field day. Also we were a little tight on cash the last couple weeks so we improvised with home made shredded newspaper and hay as litter when their wood pellets ran out- just to tie us over to the end of the month…. So this may have just been a spat of circumstances that led to an unlucky occurrence.
My mains questions are- What symptoms of flystrike should Iookout for and can flies lay maggots in poop without giving the buns flystrike if the buns are clean? I.e how alarmed should I be?
-can people please share their little cleaning routines and ideas for how to prevent this happening again – a refresher never hurts
Lastly can anyway give me peice of mind that Nellies bum looks free of fly eggs? Picture pending…
Thanks!
Please let me know if anyone thinks they can see an egg- I’ve googled it but never seen them on a rabbit before myself.
She does get little shards of hay and forage occasionally stuck in her fur because she has very teddy bear like fur that sticks to everything but shes great at cleaning these off and they don’t ever develop into matts š
So, I clean my boxes every 2 days. Every 4 days is probably not enough, especially with just newspaper as bedding.Ā I would even consider changing it daily while you are using newspaper (possibly twice a day until the flies are under control).
I can’t really tell from the photo whether there is an egg….
My understanding is that there CAN be maggots in the box without them being on the bun…. but at the same time fly strike is so dangerous that I don’t know that I would chance it. Their fur in that area looks very clean…. but still I’m not sure.
Sorry I can’t give you a definite yes or no, I’ve hit alert on this thread so hopefully other mods will chime in.
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Thanks for your reply!
I think I will change it every day while we are experiencing this hot weather and increase in flies around then maybe reduce it to every 2 days when the weather gets colder again… I guess I may have just been getting complacent with every 4 days as I didn’t experience anything bad but this has definitely been a reminder that is pays to change very frequently rather than try and stretch out resources for a couple more days!
When you say you wouldn’t chance it, what do you mean.. should I be taking her in for a vet check up? Or perhaps it will be okay to monitor her closely expecting the worst and check her closely a couple times a day for the next week or so? Obviously I understand no one here is likely a vet but opinions might help me in deciding the next steps.
Thanks for alerting this thread.
I have given her a comb all over carefully inspecting fur for eggs and inspected hee hind very closely and everything looks clean and I cant find anything that looks like an egg… I may even get up in the night to do another bum check as I know how fast acting this can be! Her behaviour and appitite is normal.
This experience definitely has me shook
Getting rid of the fly eggs/larva (i.e. the dirty litter) should be all that is needed. I wouldn’t worry too terribly. Her bottom is very clean, so the risk of flystrike is less. Just be sure to keep her litter box clean moving forward and check her rear to make sure nothing looks off.
Thanks both for your help! She continues to act normal and look clean… Phew, I will be keeping a close eye and be chucking the litter away daily at least until I can get more wood pellets.
I think I will look into more economicly friendly litters options so I can keep them as clean as possible but without wasting lots of unspoiled wood pellets.
Glad things look ok!
FYI I use a cat litter scoop to just scoop out the soiled litter, I don’t dump it all every 2 days. Using a litter box screen also makes cleaning easier because it separates the poop from the litter.
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Thanks for the tip!
Is dry poop as much of a problem or is it mainly the urine soaked poop and bedding? I have used cat scoopers previously and they are great for the soiled bits but i find the dry poops get everywhere and the only way to rid them completely is emptying the whole box.
I don’t worry too much about the dry poops, but using the screen helps with that because you can dump all the poops first, then scoop out the urine soaked areas.
Also if you can buy your pine pellets from a feed or farm store they are sold as horse stall bedding. A 40 lb bag usually costs around $8 or 9. Lots of people get them at Tractor Supply.
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I buy wood stove pellets. The price has gone up 75% this year, but they’re still the most affordable option.
A litterbox screen would be great. The dry poopies can be collected and used as plant fertilizer.
I looked through my old notes about fly strike, from a webbinar by UK vet Richard Saunders (quite the celebrity as vets go) He says fly strike is primarily a concern for rabbits that have a dirty and/or wet rear end (sticky poop, leaky urine) or open sores. For buns that are afflicted by any of those things, often elderly buns, of course, he recommends checking the bunny butt twice per day during heatwaves. The heatwave you just had in the UK was quite extreme.
Thanks for the tips both! I’m in an area around a lot of horse farms actually, so thats a good suggestion! I have considered carefresh recently but they seem to be fine with wood really and I prefer to save the extra pennies to get them organic dried forages etc…. the economy these days is dire!
If anyone happens to have an brand/ online store recommendations for litter box screens that collect the poop on the top for easy daily cleaning that would be great! I’ve struggled in my online searches today and just found self cleaning cat ones so far… Also, I keep meaning to use their poops as fertiliser, thanks for reminding me!
The screens in the BB store are great! Or you can use plastic knitting mesh as a DIY option, but some bunnies will chew on them.
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I would love to order stuff from the BB store but I don’t think there is an option to ship to UK yet š
Thanks for the suggestions!
I couldnāt order the BB ones either (Iām in Australia) so I made a version of them using āhardware clothā, the wire mesh. I just folded the edges in. But I did need to replace after a while because the edges would invariably start to come apart. The BB store one has sealed edges.
These days I donāt use a screen.
Living close to horse farms could work out really great for you. Iād not only looking into the wood pellet stall bedding but also see if you can buy hay from there. Having a cheap but quality hay readily available makes it easy to use more in the box because it doubles as a litter material, not just food. Straw is another thing you could add on top of litter, but still provide some hay for eating.
With the wood pellets, I start with a single layer on base of box and load with hay. Ā Or scoop really soiled areas out, add a bit more and mix remaining stuff around to extend it before Iāll need do a full replacement clean out.
I couldnāt order the BB ones either (Iām in Australia) so I made a version of them using āhardware clothā, the wire mesh. I just folded the edges in. But I did need to replace after a while because the edges would invariably start to come apart. The BB store one has sealed edges.
These days I donāt use a screen.
Living close to horse farms could work out really great for you. Iād not only look into the wood pellet stall bedding but also see if you can buy hay from there. Having a cheap but quality hay readily available makes it easy to use more in the box because it doubles as a litter material, not just food. Straw is another thing you could add on top of litter, but still provide some hay for eating.
With the wood pellets, I start with a single layer on base of box and load with hay. Ā I can scoop really soiled areas out, add a bit more in to extend it before Iāll need do a full replacement clean out. I recall someone on here saying for horses, theyāll mix everything around to utilise it longer then do a full muck out when required.
I do pretty much the exact same thing as Jersey! Agree that having a cheap and abundant source of hay makes like so much easier!
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I so agree about having an abundance of hay (I’ve never used a screen). I get horse hay from a person who grows his own hay for his horses. I get a very good price so I can use it very freely. I do waste a lot, but all the waste hay goes into the garden, in the composts or straight into the pallet collars where I grow vegetables. It helps with the structure of the soil and also provides the plants with nutrients as it breaks down.
I love having a litterbox screen to catch (most of) the poops, so that dumping them in the trash (or saving them for the compost) is very easy & quick.
For reasons I canāt remember, when I was trying to find a litterbox screen the BB screens werenāt an option, so I experimented with making some. What I ended up sticking with (unless I ever find something better) was the stiffest plastic needlepoint canvas I could source. I cut it to size for the boxes I use, with a thin layer of pellet litter on the bottom of the box.
Initially my bonded male bun and my single female bun did nibble at the plastic canvas screens a bit. I thought I might have to stop using them, but my Minnie girl stopped nibbling once I added a little hay on top of the screen. (I guess that gave her something else to nibble on?)
Moosey still nibbled at it a bit, even with the hay ā but he stopped too, once I added a second layer of needlepoint canvas (I didnāt fasten them together, just stacked them) along with the hay. Ā (Maybe once it felt more stable it didnāt call attention to itself so much and he didnāt feel the need to āfix itā anymore?)
I rinse the plastic canvas off each day or two when I clean the litterbox, and smack it against the side of the sink to get any extra water off. Ā Then I put it back on top of the litter after Iāve scooped out the pee-soaked pellets Ā And I wash it with dish soap (like the litterbox) every so often when it needs more of a scrub. It has acquired some staining but overall held up well, and itās easy to replace if/when needed.
If you try this, do be sure to hunt up stiffer-than-average plastic needlepoint canvas. The usual stuff is too floppy, even a double layer.
Gaah, that’s a real scare! Happy that things still seem alright.
I’d make my boyfriend eat the contents of that litter box if he didn’t clean it on time if I was away š¤¬
We change the boxes daily, but I have two bunnies who eat their hay from the box. (Instead of from the gorgeous hay racks that we bought them…)
I use only a small layer of wood pellets in the corners where they pee and cover it with a big pile of hay. By the end of the day the pellets are visible, which means it’s time to change.
I’m also phobic about flies: we’ve got screens in every window, and if a fly does manage to sneak it’s zapped as soon as the bug racket can reach it.
Thanks for all the fantastic responses and suggestions! Sorry I’m a bit late to respond life has been hectic lol.
But I have taken on the suggestions and have pimped out their litter space now. I think a makeshift screen sounds great so I’m going to invest in one of those at the end of the month,Ā seems like they can be effective for cleanliness and saving on litter a bit by scooping without the rest of the clean bedding getting lots of poops in it.
Thanks guys š
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