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Forum DIET & CARE Higher protein hay for weight gain and kidney disease

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    • Azerane
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        The fodder store had some Teff hay bales that looked nice and green when the oaten didn’t. I got a little sample bag. It seems the protein in Teff is reasonably high, though not as high as Lucernce/Alfalfa so I’m wondering, apart from protein causing weight gain, are there other reasons not to feed it, especially for a rabbit with compromised kidneys, I know that calcium should be reduced in rabbits with renal failure, but I’m not sure if increasing protein is a problem.

        I’m finding it difficult to find good information on this. As a bit of background, Luna has severe kidney damage from E.cuniculi so she remains very thin and needs a lot of fluid in her diet. I was wondering if adding a higher protein hay such as Teff would help her to put some weight on, or whether the additional protein is actually a problem for the kidneys. I’m struggling to find good information on this online. Some sources I read say Teff has low quality crude protein of around 8% and others says the protein is 12-17%.


      • Azerane
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          Ok, I have additional information and questions.

          Firstly I have managed to find a couple of references to too much protein being bad for adult rabbits: “while protein is an important part of their diet, too much can overwork their kidneys, so it is important to ensure you are providing the right amount.” and “During this time, excess protein can cause a rabbit’s kidneys to overwork to filter out waste products caused by protein breakdown in the body.” Which basically rules out the Teff hay as a means of weight gain. Chatting to my husband he mentioned that in people if you’re taking things like protein shakes and not using the protein, your body filters it out anyway and it’s not even used. Which explains why it would be bad for a rabbit’s kidneys filtering out waste products.

          My next thought is, what can I do to increase Luna’s weight? She hovers around 1.8kg when ideally she should be around 2.2kg. Currently she’s getting Oxbow Essential pellets (I was feeding Oxbow Garden Select but I couldn’t get them when I needed them). Just looking online I couldn’t actually find an energy rating kilojoules/calorie value for any rabbit pellets online. But I did notice that the Oxbow is actually very low in fat at 2.5% but the Burgess Excel with mint has 4% fat. So I’m wondering if that’s a better option for her. That being said, would it even make a difference to her with how little pellets she eats (2-3 teaspoons a day)?


        • DanaNM
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            Hmmm, what about supplementing with some oat groats? That is the go-to at the rescue I volunteered at when a bun comes in very underweight. Supplementing with critical care is also often recommended, but that probably has more protein as well.

            I also know that black oil sunflower seeds are given to buns but not sure about protein content.

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          • Azerane
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              I have been giving some oats, but only a pinch so probably not enough, I didn’t want to overdo it, maybe max 1 tablespoon a day? I think I’m going to have to separate her from Apollo sometimes so I can give her more.


            • DanaNM
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                A tablespoon sounds in line with what I’ve seen them give at the shelter. Maybe increase it gradually to make sure she doesn’t get soft poops?

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