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FORUM HOUSE RABBIT Q & A 12yo w/ bottom tooth/jaw abcess

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    • Crie
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        Clara is almost 12 years old and has quite a few old lady issues– arthritis, micro cracks in spine, blindness, no ears, 3 legs, and a super sassy ‘tude.

        Her newest issue is an abscess on her bottom jaw/cheek tooth. Out of everything, THIS is what is going to take her out.

        We noticed it December 6th, and the doctor said there was nothing we could do. She advised against surgery and put her on 2 weeks of PenG Procain injections and Baytril (of course this was pointless, as it did nothing). Her doctor said to love her and keep her comfortable until she passes away.

        Found another doctor, and on January 19th was put on Zythromax for 30 days, pellets and critical care to get weight up, and then plan to lightly sedate her to open the abcess, drain it, keep it open for a few days, and then cross our fingers (as all the stories I’m reading have ended poorly with this method).

        I talked to the new doctor about Bicillin and she is VERY against it as she says it completely stops a rabbits gut. Clara had issues with that when she was receiving injections for those 2 weeks (and that was just 2x a week). BUT, I also did not have her on probiotics at the time.

        She has had 2 doses of Zythomax and it’s destroying her, so the doctor said to stop right away and start Baytril again tomorrow, and we’ll get her in soon to drain the abcess.

        Help me out rabbit people!!! I know at 12, Clara has lived a good long life, but I know she’s not done with me quite yet (let’s be real, our rabbits own us!). So what do I do? Where do I go from here? What have people had success with when it comes to these a-hole abscesses?

        I should also note, the goal here isn’t to totally rid of the abcess, as I know that’s probably not realistic. I can’t imagine she will live another year, or even 6 months (but I sure hope!). How do I keep this thing at bay so she can live the next handful of months comfortably and continue to be a pain in my a$$?


      • DanaNM
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          I’m very sorry you are going through this.  🙁

          When my rabbit had this exact issue (abscess in the jaw), he had it surgically cleaned out, and then was put on 6 weeks of penicillin injections, which cured the abscess. Without surgically cleaning it out it is unlikely to improve, but my vet said that in older rabbits who aren’t good candidates for surgery they will put them on the penicillin injections to keep it at bay (it won’t cure it, but can keep it from growing). The vet said some rabbits will live several months relatively comfortably like this. If I was in your shoes, that is probably what I would try. But if she isn’t handling the penicillin injections well, then there may not be many options that will actually work well and not cause her a lot more pain.

          Sadly a fellow member just went through this and unfortunately lost their rabbit after doing surgery and a lot of medication afterward. 🙁

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          • Crie
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              Thanks for the response. It is SO hard to know what to do in this situation. I sometimes wonder if I went through with the mini operation and cleaning it out, am I doing it FOR her or TO her. But if I don’t figure something out soon I’m not sure she’ll make it another month.

              When your bun was on the penicillin injections, was it everyday for 6 weeks? Were they also on probiotics or anything else for their gut?

              Also, what was the healing process like for your bunny? Did they leave it open to drain? Put it beads? Did your bun go back to eating and drinking like normal afterwards?

               


          • DanaNM
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              With my bun, I believe the shots were every other day, but I can’t quite remember (I did them at home, and it wasn’t too bad once I got the hang of it). He handled them really well. He went back to eating right after he woke up (he also had a molar extraction), I think he must have felt better with that rotten tooth out of there. Towards the end of the 6 weeks his poops were harder and more dry, so I did give him some benebac, but overall he handled it like a champ and never had any severe GI symptoms. He was only on pain meds in addition to the pen-G injections. He was also only 1 year old though, so keep that in mind.

              In his case I think it was open to the inside of his mouth, so it wasn’t open to the outside. They didn’t put beads in. I also know his was caught very early. We had actually booked him in for a dental (we could tell something was going on with his molars but couldn’t tell the full extent), and then the day of the procedure the abscess had appeared, so it was still very small.

              Do you know how your bun tends to cope with anesthesia? Some buns bounce right back, others have a harder recovery.

               

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            • Crie
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                Honestly, she’s only been put under once in her life, and that was when she was 1yo and I got her fixed.

                The doctors plan was to lightly sedate her, not put her completely under, and then numb the area and cut it open to get out as much puss as possible.

                I’m not sure what meds she would be on after her mini op, but I feel like most meds have been messing with her gut lately.

                The penicillin shots were 2x a week and her poop was really tiny and dry. I’m wondering if I got her back on the penicillin shots and just gave her a benebac every couple days if that would help her get back on track with eating, and keep the abscess from causing more damage?

                She’s 12, and has other issues (none that are causing her pain, as the tooth is), but I’m starting to think I should just spoil her until it’s her time. Even if she didn’t have the tooth problem, to get even another 6-12months out of her sounds pretty hopeful.

                *sigh* This is so hard. If only our little ones could talk to us.


              • DanaNM
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                  It really is soooo hard to know what to do. In a senior pet, I do think it’s important to consider quality of life, what the chances of success are, and whether the treatment is for us or for them. Sometimes it seems like issues like this open up a cascade of other problems when the bun is a senior. You could always try the less extreme option with some extra supportive care (critical care and fluids will help keep her gut hydrated) and see how it goes.

                  Ultimately you know her best. Maybe it will help to have a “conversation” with her.

                  Also know that whatever route you choose to go, it’s normal to question that decision and feel guilt over it, but you should try not to. We have a lot of people on the forum feeling bad about either choosing to pursue an aggressive treatment option, or feeling guilty for not doing it, so that guilt is not really a sign that you chose wrong, i think it’s just a sign that we love our bunnies a lot and want to do the best for them.

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