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Maintenance and Housing
Is your bunny housed indoors or outdoors? Indoors.
Does your bunny live with other bunnies? One.
If yes, are they bonded? Yes.
If your rabbit spends time outside, are wild rabbits around? Never outside.
How much exercise does your bunny get per day? Free-Roam, so as much as wanted.
How often do you clean the litter box? Daily or every other day.
How often do you groom your bunny? As needed, she hates being brushed so not as frequently as we should, maybe once every week or so
Spay/Neuter
Is your bunny spayed/neutered? Everybun in the family is.
If so, for how long? Bun in question we have no idea. At least well past fully recovered.
If not, why not?
Are you aware of reproductive cancer risk in females? If not, please read about it here.
Pooping and Diet – Very Important
What does your bunny eat normally: Orchard Grass, TBS of pellets, packaged spring mix
How much hay and what type? Unlimited Orchard Grass (picky eaters in this house), replenished when flattened down in litter box usually a few times a day
How much pellets and what type? About a tablespoon of Selective Science House Rabbit Pellets (Guaranteed Analysis: Fiber 22.0% max, Protein 14.0% min, Fat 4.0% max.)
How much veggies and what types? About a cup of packaged spring mix, maybe a bit more.
How many treats and what types? Treats infrequent, mostly used when buns go through something stressful like nail clipping and typically Oxbow dried banana slices and we always go by package directions so typically just one or two pieces
Anything else not listed? We do sometimes give extra veg to get buns to cooperate, maybe every other day and just a few pieces
When was the last time your bunny ate? Munching on her hay now
What was the last thing your bunny ate?
When was the last time your bunny pooped? Probably about a minute ago
How did your bunny’s most recent poops look (round and firm, misshapen, small and hard, soft/mushy, runny, etc.) ? Soft/Mushy
Illness & Symptoms
How long have you had this bunny? Around 3 months now
In a few words, can you explain the symptoms? Underweight, constant wet/mushy poops.
How long ago did you first notice these symptoms? When we got her
Have you consulted a vet? No.
Have you started any treatment for the symptoms? Sort of? I’d like to go into detail below.
Was your bunny physically ill or injured when you got them? Aside from a butchered toe nail from an aggressive clipping no.
How has its behavior and appearance changed, if at all? She just flourished into her personality from scared shelter bun to diva.
Explain your situation in detail. (Please explain what is going on, include details from the beginning of the illness leading up to now)
This is gonna be long with a lot of moving parts so no worries if you see this wall of text and don’t want to provide your two cents: I know it’s a lot!
So, when we first got Lily from the shelter, I was questioning the quality of her care. Before she was handed off to me the lady tranced her, clipped her nails and almost completely clipped one off (its now kind of a black stub, the internet said it was harmless) and brushed her very aggressively. I’m a little ‘extra’ with my pet care and general treatment and brushed this off as normal shelter behavior. On her first morning with us it was clear to see that she was starving. Not just excitable around food, I mean gobbling anything and everything but hay down within seconds and acting like well, a starved animal. You could feel her hips, every single bone in her spine, she just felt unhealthily skinny whenever you could get your hands on her. I didn’t feel comfortable contacting the shelter after my experiences (the lady who handed her off was homophobic, it is a long story) but they had assured us she had been spayed and seen a vet recently, so, we figured she must at least be okay. We started giving her some extra pellets and veggies and slowly but surely she put on some weight and is now in a comfortable range I think. We haven’t weighed her but using how Gus feels (who the vet said was in prime health) for reference, I think she is pretty alright.
Concerning issue one: her feces. It has always been extremely wet and mushy but solid enough to hold your average bunny poop shape and size. I have never seen a dry poop come from her. We also think they might have lied about her breed because she is very, very long haired. Mostly in her cheeks, forehead (she lets me gently spin it around to give her a mohawk it is the cutest thing ever) and butt! She has like a wedding dress length train of fur that picks up so much litter! No idea if her butt floof has anything to do with this. Also, she eats Gus’ food! I need ideas on how to fix this, actually. I sit between them and try to get her to eat from her bowl but she just won’t have it, she has to have his. We don’t have a lot of space to separate, either. I have to manually push her snoot out of his bowl while he eats at a snail’s pace and she gets very upset with me.
Concerning issue number two: her hair. In the area behind her ears, sort of neck region, she has very thin hair that sections in a way that lets you see her skin. Is this normal? The skin isn’t reddened, she doesn’t seem to be itchy at all. Is this just a long hair thing? It isn’t patches, either, moreso large parts.
Three: This is for Gus. He loves to have his chin rubbed and while I was doing so I noticed his nose has the tiniest bit of snot? I mean the most miniscule coating around his nostrils, just enough to be seen if you get up close and personal with him.
Sorry to post a wall of text, I try to search before I post since I just go on so long, but, last thing. My significant other and I recently had to move back in with my dad after a disagreement with our landlord (said bunnies were okay, came over, saw them, explained he meant outside in a hutch, we had to move over the weekend suddenly because obviously our buns are family and do not belong outside). This was about a month ago now and I don’t mean to be rude to my father but he lives in filth. This place hasn’t been so much as dusted in 10 years, we are talking if you run your finger along a surface not only will it leave a mark but also a bunch of dirt will pile up on your finger, and they have mice that run in the kitchen they never deal with so they leave literal mouse feces everywhere. I have tried extremely hard to clean everything up but I’m only one person, my significant other works and I’m interviewing, and this is a two story house filled with junk. I worry about this taking a toll on the bunnies’ health. I have scrubbed every surface in our bedroom where the bunnies stay, went as far as digging up decade old dirt from between floorboards and putting a giant rug down. I try to keep their hay in a plastic sealed container… Do you think these conditions are having an impact on the bunnies’ health? My father does not see an issue with the way he is living and is very stubborn on the subject and we want to stay to save up since most apartments in the area don’t want to take a cat and two rabbits. They are honestly like children to me, we sacrificed our apartment for them and them alone, I mean I would do pretty much anything for them. Heck, we raised Gus up from a baby! I call him my little man when I pet him! And Lily is our little street-rat! These buns are my life. Think we should bite the bullet and try to get an apartment instead?
Thank you so much for reading this, I know it’s a lot.
#1: Some rabbits need to be separated at food time if they eat at different paces. This isn’t super unusual. You could also take to sneak feeding Gus later in the day to ensure he gets enough. Re: the mushy poops, how is her hay intake objectively, and then how is it relative to intake of non-hay foods? Typically, as long as a rabbit is eating more hay than non-hay foods, the poops will generally be OK. I also think about potential ongoing gastric distress. Did you do a slow transition into her current pellets?
Notably, it is not uncommon (especially for rabbits who have been neglected) to be extra wired to intact as much food as fast as possible. It is very much in line with having low food security, in that it is unclear when their next meal may be. Typically, food security will develop over time and some of the high energy may subside. Keeping a routine can help with this.
#2: If the skin looks healthy, it may be a visual consequence of what her fur distribution/length is in that area. The fur there is notorious for being characteristically different, in my opinion, on all rabbits. It tends to be smoother, finer, and thinner on both my rabbits. A picture would be helpful (use the Add Media button).
#3: If the snot is colored (white, yellow, etc..), it could be a sign of a bacteria infection, so a vet visit would be warranted. If it is clear, it is more likely to be irritated due to dust, whether that is from the home environment or even the inevitable hay dust while he eats it.
Make sure the hay, while being in a plastic sealed container, still gets some airflow. This can come from poking a few holes of keeping the lid somewhat loose. Airflow is still needed to ensure the hay doesn’t “stew” in unnecessary moisture.
Rabbits aside, it seems like you’re not super thrilled in living where you are currently, so if you are able to gather the means to move, I would definitely support that notion, with the added benefit that you’d be in an environment you feel is safer for your rabbits. As long as the rabbits are kept to areas that you know are clean of risky messes (especially mice and their feces), they should be relatively OK. An uptick in dust can create nasal irritation, but it won’t cause damage like being in a room of smoke or something. Do keep in mind any potential bug exposure.
The answers provided in this discussion are for general guideline purposes only. The information is not intended to diagnose or treat your pet. Seek the advice of your veterinarian or a qualified behaviorist.
Thanks for using the template! 🙂
I’m thinking since she’s a relatively new addition, this has been going on a while, and you had some concerns about her care, I would take her to the vet to get checked out (a parasite screening would prob be a good idea). Being underweight combined with mushy poops is worrisome, because it could mean her cecum isn’t functioning properly and she’s not getting the nutrition she needs. Normally with soft poops the first step is to go hay-only for a bit to see if that corrects things, but with her seeming underweight and starving all the time I wouldn’t go this route without consulting with a vet first. You could try supplementing her with some CC and maybe trying a probiotic in the meantime, but I do think a vet visit (with a trusted vet) is in order!
I’m also sorry to hear about the issues with moving, that sounds so stressful! I wonder if you could add some DIY air filters to help with air quality? You can get a box fan and attach a home air filter, they work really well! But I do think if the situation is hard on you and the buns, then moving out would probably be best for everyone if it’s possible for you.
. . . The answers provided in this discussion are for general guideline purposes only. The information is not intended to diagnose or treat your pet. Seek the advice of your veterinarian or a qualified behaviorist.
Thank you so much for your quick responses! I am a very long winded post writer so it means a lot you’d take the time.
On hay to other foods ratio: she’s been a wonderful hay eater, I’d definitely say around 80%ish of her diet is hay?
As for transitioning diet: we went extremely slow transitioning to pellets. Not so much with greens, though. The shelter never gave us an idea on quantity for greens so we just fed what we feed Gus, somewhere around a cup with a few extra nibbles every other dayish as treats. Could some tummy stress still be an issue after being on this diet for a few months?
If I had known mushy poop was such a big red flag I wouldn’t have waited this long, I honestly didn’t know.
On Gus: his snot was very much clear and barely noticable, I think as you guys suggested it is most likely the dust and such. We will probably end up speeding the timeline for a move and really put some more time into cleaning the rest of the house as well, not just the bunny area. And good idea with the air filter, will be looking into that too!
We will be sure to call the vet tomorrow when they open and get them in ASAP, at the minimum to make sure the duo are healthy and to get an idea of what is going on with Lily.
Is the probiotic/CC the best route until we can get in? I’d love to do anything that could help while we wait for an appointment.
Thank you again, and sorry for getting a bit emotional in my post. Just a lot going on and to add in fearing for the bunnies who light up my life. Plus the whole move was real sudden, I was honestly beyond surprised at how everything went but the landlord just kept saying he would not compromise on the whole outdoor/indoor thing. I’m just glad buns and us are together, and that even with the downsize they seem as happy as usual.
I don’t think it would be harmful to try giving him some CC and a probiotic in the meantime. Some bunnies will eat CC on their own, which is great. Bene-bac (the paste) is a commonly used probiotic for buns.
. . . The answers provided in this discussion are for general guideline purposes only. The information is not intended to diagnose or treat your pet. Seek the advice of your veterinarian or a qualified behaviorist.
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