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› Forum › DIET & CARE › Soft dark poop
Pinky has always had poop that was dark and softer than Muffin’s. But it seems to be getting more soft and wet?
He poops in his sleep and his fave sleeping spot is right beside the litter box. So I’ve been having to clean up piles of poop everyday and putting them in the litter box. He still doesn’t seem to learn. They also pee in different spots sometimes but I think Pinky starts it. Any tips to help with litter training? Pinky just keeps leaving PILES of poop.
What are the causes of soft and damp poops? Like it’s kind of slimy texture but not mucus like I see in other peoples photos. Just a coating of wet on the poops. Could it be from the softer hay? There’s been more of it in this current bale. Also it always stays dark, even when he was eating store bought Timothy hay that had lots of hard pieces. I’ve been mixing in some recently to try to help. They’ve also been getting bok choy everyday, along with romaine and green leaf. His poops have always ranged from large to very small, odd shaped.
Does anyone have any info that could help? Thanks.
Do you think you could include some pictures? When you say he poops in his sleep do you mean he can’t control it, or he’s to lazy to get up and go to the box? Does he have any normal poops or are they all like that? Has Muffin ever had any of these poops or are his poops normal? If Muffin’s poops are normal I wouldn’t think anything diet related would be causing Pinky to have weird poops unless he has some kind of condition or sensitivity.
I’ll see if I can upload some pics. I’m not sure if he’s too lazy or can’t control it. I’ll just see him sleeping and suddenly there’s a pile of poops behind his butt. Muffin’s poops have almost all been normal, just change from dark and light depending on the type of hay I feed them. His are pretty much all the same size and shape though, normal looking. I’ll see if I can check Muffin’s again though.
I’m pretty sure that all of the light ones are Muffin and all of the really dark ones are Pinky. The cardboard photo is older, but I was trying to compare it to my thumb nail which doesn’t really work because I have very small hands… Maybe I’ll use a quarter next time.
Bun Jovi will poop in his sleep too, if I knew how to help with that I would tell you! I usually just pick them up and throw them in the box twice a day. It doesn’t really bother me since it helps me make sure his poops look good (with a bonded pair it can be hard to tell).
It almost looks like they have extra cecal material mixed in, maybe even a touch of cecal dysbiosis going on (with the irregular sizes).
Do they stay that way if you feed only hay? I think my first step would be to just feed hay only for a week or so and see if that helps. Then you can add back in pellets, veggies, etc, one by one (giving each one a few days) to see if there’s an effect. Some bunnies are just very sensitive to greens and pellets.
You might also try a pro-biotic, such as bene-bac. But, he is being exposed to all the healthy gut bacteria through living with Muffin, so that is honestly probably better than the pro-biotic.
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Thanks DanaNM for the advice! Is there any harm in only feeding hay for a week? Other than him being jealous of Muffin’s food lol. This is what I woke up to today in the bunny pen… It’s weird that there’s wet spots around it. Do you remember my older post of him leaving brown spots on the blankets?
As long as he actually eats the hay,there’s no harm in only feeding hay for a week. But he must eat hay, and a good amount of it. Some buns just stop eating if they only get hay, and if a bunny doesn’t eat, it will lead to stasis and possible liver damage. For those type rabbits its safer to keep feeding a small amount of pellets. The amount of pellets can be tapered down as the bun starts eating more and more hay.
Ditto what Bam said. If they both eat plenty of hay, you can feed both only hay. If there is a concern about not eating enough, you can eliminate one element of the diet at a time instead to see if something specific is triggering it. Which bun was it that was being somewhat picky about hay?
Those poops do seem like they are extra moist, and yes I do remember your past post now that you mention it. It could be from a richer hay, but usually that doesn’t make them wet necessarily. When you break one open, it still should look like chewed up hay.
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Thank you guys. Maybe I should start with eliminating veggies? Do I need to do this slowly? And what would be the next step if I find that the veggies or pellets is causing it?
Also my rabbit vet is 1 1/2 away. Do you think they would recommend to try the same thing?
It was Pinky that was barely eating hay for a few days. I tried different types of hay thinking he didn’t like the farm hay. But after a day or two of simethicone drops, he jumped into the hay box and was eating the farm hay so I gave him some and he’s been eating it since. I’m not sure if it was the simethicone that helped or not. But the shelter did tell me he was picky and would only eat Timothy hay mixed with orchard grass hay, until other bunnies arrived at the shelter. But when I took them home they barely ate hay for a week or so (probably stressed from moving to a new home).
Ahh that’s right. I can’t say for sure what the vet would recommend (because of course I am not a vet) 😉 . Have they been seen there yet? I remember you were mentioning possibly taking them for check-ups.
It could also be that he is still acclimating to his new home. His new found love of hay will certainly help things.
As long as he is pooping regularly, eating lots of hay, and seems generally happy, I wouldn’t be alarmed just yet. Consistent fiber and water intake are the most important things for the bunny gut. Some bunnies do just have kind of icky poops. If he started having chronic issues with gas or stasis I might be more inclined to get to the bottom of things. But my sense is for now to just keep monitoring and see how he does. Since he is so new with you are still establishing what’s normal for him.
On that same note, you could also start tracking his weight. Some bunnies that have issues with their cecum will have trouble keeping weight on. So if you noticed he was dropping weight that would also be cause for concern.
Regarding eliminating things, maybe try reducing veg to just romaine and see if that helps at all?
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Thank you DanaNM! Only Muffin has been seen there and treated for the situation he had going on around his mouth. He healed up but I haven’t been able to have a good look at it for a while. Pinky wasn’t seen by the rabbit vet yet, they only went to the regular vet to get treated for ear mites together.
I’ll see if I can start weighing them then (if they let me lol). I might just bring it up with the rabbit vet next time I’m there, or send an email.
I guess I can feed him just romaine for his veggies tomorrow. That won’t do any harm with switching to just one veggie suddenly? Or should I reduce the types of veg over a few days? Thank you!
Esther doesn’t seem bothered swapping between different veggies day by day or week by week. I don’t see the need to reduce slowly, because it’s different than giving them something they’ve never had before. I’d say go ahead a switch fully to romaine right away.
Thank you Bu20055! I’m pretty overprotective if you can’t tell LOL. I mean better safe than sorry right? But yeah doing just romaine tomorrow seems like it won’t harm him. I’ll see how it goes.
Removing a single veggie type quickly shouldn’t do any harm.
I forgot to ask, when you break open a poop, does it look like chewed up hay, or is it very smushy and smelly?
Do you notice a very strong smell associated with his poops?
If you notice they are very smelly, I wouldn’t rule out coccidea. It’s a parasite that most rabbits carry and can flare up if they get stressed. It’s pretty easily treatable as well. So if things don’t improve with the diet changes (or get worse), I would collect a stool sample and take it to your vet.
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Thank you DanaNM. In the photo above that I said I woke up to in the morning, the one squished on the floor had some chewed up hay but mostly just mush. The other ones seem to be chewed up hay.
I haven’t noticed his poops being super smelly. I mostly just notice the wet wood smell from the wood pellets. But then I open the window and the smell goes away. Would the smell be as strong as onion poops? Cause those I could smell super easily without being really close. Thanks!
Ok that’s good. The smelly smell I was talking about is more a manure smell, almost like cow poop!
The smushed one could have been an uneaten cecotrope. The fact that the others had hay in them is great.
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That’s true, it could’ve been a cecotrope. Today when I woke up of course he had poops in is favourite sleeping spot. They’re still dark, but not as wet and mushy as yesterday morning. I fed him just romaine as his veggies again today. Maybe tomorrow they’ll be even better?
Sounds good 🙂 Yeah maybe the bok choy was just a little too much for him?
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Yeah I think that might be it. I saw an improvement today, a couple wet poops but not as bad as before. And a couple mushy ones but still not as bad. So I think it’s getting better.
They’re still dark and different sizes though. I was thinking before that it was just fur causing the big ones, but they’re not shedding a lot now.
I gave them some green leaf lettuce mixed into the romaine which shouldn’t be a problem. But I’ll keep watching!
He mostly ate the white part of the bok choy because Muffin would take the leafy part. Should I try to feed it to them but only in small quantities next week?
I think if he’s improved a bit, I would give it some more time before re-introducing more greens. Just keep pushing fiber fiber fiber!
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Thank you DanaNM! 🙂
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