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› FORUM › HOUSE RABBIT Q & A › Injured leg? Stroke?
Hey all! About 9-10 years ago I posted on here but I have since forgot my login info so this is a new account! Sorry for the length of this but I can’t find anything similar online and I want to explain fully what happened.
my Olive is 10 years old. Over the last year he’s lost some mobility. Having grown up with dogs I assumed this was a bit of arthritis. He no longer climbs or jumps onto things, he struggles to clean himself and I assist him.in the last month I’ve noticed him occasionally “walking” instead of hopping. Moving his back legs slow and staying low at times.
Thursday he was in a covered and gated section of the porch. He was laying with his hind legs stacked out to the left, his belly on the floor and his front legs and head off to the right.
I had never seen him lay like this. I called his name and he turned his head to look at me and seemed fine.
1/2 hour later he’s in the same position but a 180 degree turn now facing the house.
a few minutes later, same body position but now facing a different direction. (Imagine spin the bottle, he’s in one spot but rotating)
I hear scratching and see him using his feet to spin himself in a circle on this spot . His legs were going 100 miles and hour he went 360 degrees all while peeing!
cue the panic. I grabbed him. Wrapped him in a towel. Sobbed. Called emergency vet. They don’t take rabbits. Nearest emergency vet that does is a 5 hour drive .
she said there are 2 vets in the area that see rabbits (I just moved here) I called both. Only one returned the call, our appointment is today (Monday)at 3.
Emergency vet offered to put him to sleep, saying he had a stroke or he EC. I put him on cage rest. Thursday night when he tried to walk he kept falling into the walls of the cage, sliding all over the place. He seemed to be very hyper and would not lay down. He’d hop from one side of the cage to the other rolling onto his right side. we both only slept 2 hours.
the next morning he could hop somewhat but was bearing no weight on the left hind leg.
I put him on meloxicam, I have it for the dog, I’m giving him a conservative dose as I am not a vet and he has never taken it before. (.75 ml every 12 hours he is 6 lbs)
He had a dry bath to clean up the urine. Everyday he has become more active. And he is slowly bearing more weight on his left hind leg and grooming it again. But tends to hold it up.
He is in an XPen with a 1 inch deep tray lined with puppy pads as his litter box. He’s only peeing in the box, he is eating, drinking and active. Yesterday I saw him lay in the bunny loaf position he’s been avoiding since Thursday. He also thumped both back feet when a noise spooked him. I’m scared the vet will scold me for medicating him.
Do rabbits have stokes? Was he in shock from an injury? Would he recover this quickly from a break/EC/sprain or dislocation? There was nothing for him to hurt himself on he was in the center of the floor. However he may have landed wrong jumping out of his litter box (it’s about 3 inches tall). I haven’t been sleeping, I’ve found posts on here helpful at identifying possible issues. I’m worried he’s too old to be put under for any type of surgery, and I’m more anxious there are not rabbit specialists out here in Humboldt CA.
I will post what we find out. Due to COVID I can’t go into the vet with him and they aren’t equipped to do zoom. Last week I had to wait an hour past the appointment time for my dog. Ollie hates his carrier. I’m not ok with any of this.
Any ideas/thoughts or well wishes appreciated. He’s 10 and he’s never had any medical issues. We’ve been very lucky.
(Edited by Wick – redid formatting for readability)
Rabbits can have strokes. They can also get a parasite called e cuniculi (EC), which often affects the central nervous system. Rabbits dont really tend to recover from e cuniculi without treatment (panacur), so in this respect it sounds more like a stroke.
Im in the car now (not driving), will write more when I get home!
Meloxicam is good whether its a blodclot stroke or e c, so thats clever of you.
We have a lovely member called Gina.Jenny who had a bun who suffered a stroke. I will ask her to have a look at this thread.
Bam! Thank you for the reply! Just now I saw him sitting up with weight on his back legs. He’s better every minute.
It’s good to know there’s other cases of similar things.
when I search “rabbit stroke” I Only find info on EC and heatstroke so it’s hard to get information.
i hope the vet will know something. I’m scared she won’t know how to hold him even
EC is often called bunny stroke, which is rather confusing. The symptoms of ec can be very similar to a vascular stroke, but they dont have to be. Many ec buns only get symptoms from their kidneys, for example.
A stroke is, as you know, a vascular event. We had another case here on BB only this spring with a rabbit that suffered a vascular stroke. I would think the condition is under-diagnosed. There’s no physiological reason why rabbits shouldn’t get vascular strokes.
The fact that your Olive is recovering by himself points to it not being ec. Mild cases of ec can probably get better without treatment, but Olive’s symptoms don’t seem mild at all. I doubt an musculoskeletal injury would set off a reaction such as you describe.
A minor stroke can be a forewarning of a bigger stroke, as I’m sure you know. It doesn’t have to be, but its sth to be aware of. Meloxicam has blood thinning properties, so it could actually help prevent blod clots. Since he has a bit of old age stiffness, he could benefit greatly from maintenance treatment with meloxicam anyway. My own rabbit has been on daily meloxicam for 10 monts now, meloxicam is generally well tolerated by buns for longterm use. This would be sth to discuss with your vet. Some vets like to give a stomach protecting drug in combination with meloxicam.
I dont think your vet will scold you for giving meloxicam. It wouldnt be completely ethical to not give your rabbit pain relief when you had a bunny safe painkiller available to you, and there was no way for you to get him seen by a vet.
I agree. Such rapid improvement suggests it was an actual stroke and not EC.
Well our appointment was at 3 and they just now took him back at 4:40
making an ill rabbit wait in a car with construction going on in the parking lot for almost two hours in 80 degree heat.. not giving me a lot of hope that they know/care about what they are doing here.
I wish I could just pick up meloxicam at the store and take care of him myself.
Wow, that’s awful. Let us know how things went.
Vet basically said everything that was said here, sounds like a stroke, she thinks meloxicam sounds fine. Nothing else will help.
she said that dose “seems fine” agreed he can be on it for the rest of his life and sent me home with 5 days worth.
she didn’t want to treat for EC without doing the test.
they then made me wait and hour to get him back. I had to call to remind them, and they thought I already had him back and had left.
So.. not a super great experience, but I’m glad we are home and Ollie seems happy.
I guess I will try to get a refill elsewhere once I’m calm enough to figure that part out.
very grateful for the response and care! ❤️
That does not sound like a nice experience, to say the least. ☹ I hope you can call them and get a prescription for more meloxicam. They mustve made a mistake when they prescribed only 5 days worth.
I dont know if any vet would treat a true rabbit stroke with anything but simple blood thinning meds. Gina.Jenny, who I mentioned in my first post, didn’t recieve any treatment for her stroke bun, her vet just diagnosed it as a probable vascular stroke. He recovered on his own and lived for another high quality year, with his bunwife, doing his normal bunny things. I remember he needed more food during his recovery.
ETA: I spoke to Gina.Jenny. She’s currently unable to come to the forums. She said I could add that she did Reiki healing therapy on her bun (Podge), and that he seemed to benefit from it. (She has level II Reiki training). Reiki healing is, as you may know a non-invasive alternative treatment.
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