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Hello, everybody! And thank you so much for reading and any advice you can give me.
it’s quite a long story, though.
i have an around 4 months old lop bunny, Dolly ‘Binks’ Farton. She lives inside, in a big condo and I let her out, when I’m in the room, usually spend with her more time in the morning and evening. She is not spayed yet, she’s still quite small. 2.15 lb.
We are living in Guatemala, that’s important to mention, here bunnies are mostly livestock. So vets do not know much about bunnies, even when they say they do. That’s why I was hoping to get an advice here.
I check everything different vets tell me twice. And some advices I’m getting are, give her more pellets/bread/yogurt/CARROTS. I wish I was joking…
On 28th of July I took Dolly to the vet, she started from what is called in the photos cecal dysbiosis and went full on diarrhea on us. Vet gave her fluids and prescribed probiotics for a couple of days and sulfadim (anti parasite medicine) for 8 days. She got much better, but after I stopped giving her medicine on a third day she became lethargic, weird misshapen poop with not very pleasant smell. Poop was on and off for a couple of days. I gave her probiotics. Took to the vet, showed him poop from different days, on the day I took her it was pretty okay, not perfect, but she was improving her pooping performance for sure. Vet people took it for analysis, nada (it’s ‘nothing’ in Spanish 😊) no parasites, everything seems ok. Main vet looked at her, said she’s fine, no infections, belly/heart/lungs sound fine, just in case, they still gave her antiworming medicine (said it’s completely safe, I wish I could trust him…).
so, in general, he’s trying to convince me, she’s fiiiiiine.
but I know my bunny! As all us bunny lovers do, right? She’s not right. She almost doesn’t move (and oh man, she was moving that chubby fluffy body a lot, binkying all the way, only stopping to lick my hands and get pets) And now, when she lazily does a hop or two (I make her move her fuzzy butt though a little, she doesn’t appreciate), I hear this really freaky sound like lots of liquid moving inside her. I told the vet I was hearing it before, and after our road trip to the vet it didn’t go away. I recorded it, vet says he doesn’t hear anything (facepalm) and that I just should give her more fiber. All she eats is pretty much fiber.
i did not change her diet for 2 months that I have her. It’s unlimited hay, a handful of fresh cut grass (we have it free of pesticides all year round), alfalfa pellets (she’s 4 months, still growing), leaves of dark leaf salad with a bit of carrot tops or romaine (a handful a day, not much).
she still eats, drinks, very excited about salad time, but that’s where her excitement ends. She doesn’t want to get out of her condo, when I open the door, and when she moves I hear that freaky sound of liquid popping. I gave her Simethicone 3 doses in 3 hours yesterday. And today I gave her 1 g activated charcoal. She seems a bit livelier now, as I’m writing it, stuffing her face with pellets and hay.
Her belly is soft, I massage it too constantly, not much popping sounds while I do that.
her poop is not perfect (some poops in a pile are quite small), but no foul smell and full of undigested fiber. There is less pooping going on than usual, but maybe because she’s moving less?
thank you so much again for any thoughts/your experiences with similar sounds, I couldn’t find much info about it…).
And I wish all your bunnies great health, because it was sooooo frustrating for so many days already!
Firstly, is the “foul smell” from poop distinctively different than territorial poops? It is natural for rabbits, especially ones not neutered/spayed, to have more territorial poops, that are sort of coated in an oil. A lot of people relate it to an onion-y smell. I have a spayed female who still poops onion-smell occasionally. If it is reminiscent of this, you don’t need to worry about the smelling poop — that’s normal.
It sounds like the health behaviors are currently there, including eating, drinking, and pooping right now, which is great. A lot of improvement from the beginning of your post. It seems like the liquidy sound may have been gas-related, since she seemed livelier after the simethicone?
The vegetables you are feeding her sound pretty typical and generally safe, but I wonder if, because of her age and when they were introduced, her gut biome may not be ready to break down all those veggies yet, and this is producing gas? If you wanted to test it out, you can eliminate all vegetables and just start with one (romaine is typically the safest one) and see if there are improvements.
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Id also try cutting out everything except hay and a small amount of pellets (dont stop pellets completely, it can be difficult for the bunny tummy to absorb all the nutrients in hay only, especially if the bun is young). I’d keep giving the probiotics (the best probiotics for rabbits are saccharomyces cereviciae (brewer’s yeast) and enterococcus fascism (a type of bacterium that is highly prevalent in the healthy rabbit gut).
The sulfadim was probably in case she had coccidiosis, which is a common parasite that can be lethal in baby rabbits (because they cause ample diarrhea and rapid dehydration). Hopefully the parasite was eliminated by the sulfadim, if there was a parasite. The stomach could be upset for a while following an ordeal like that.
There are other antibiotics that can be used for suspected stomach bugs in rabbits (such as metronidazole, typically for 5 days), but you’d need a sympathetic vet to discuss treatment with and get a prescription from, of course. As you are aware, antibiotics in themselves cause disruption of the gut microbiota and must be used with great caution in rabbits.
Keep keeping a very close eye.
Thank you very much for the advices!
I’ll cut everything except hay and a little pellets today and see what happens. She loves grass more, but oh well. I was giving her a bit of vegs for 1,5 months already.
she is a bit better today, a little less of that freaky sound, but it is still there. She still is not energetic, as usual. Still affectionate, asks for pets, licks hands, grooms herself a lot, as usual, but not moving much and no usual running around. Vet said that the cause of her not feeling well might have been sulfadim medication too. No parasites at the moment according to poop analysis.
I’d think it is gas, what else can it be… The only strange thing, I hear it only when I force her to hop around. Should I still force it or just need to let her be at the moment?
The smell of her poop was similar to the one, when she finally started pooping hard after her diarrhea. But now this smell is gone completely. Just the size of the droppings still not uniform in size (some are smaller, some are larger), but the texture is pretty fine, like it was in better times.
Thanks again!
It seems you are seeing improvement! It can be a couple of weeks before her poop returns to normal. When my bun had a long bout of stasis last fall I took pictures of his poop daily so I could follow his progess closely without having to wonder if I was imagining things!
Its good that she hops around. Hopping around gets the intestines moving, which is why you hear the sounds then. So its not the hopping that creates the gas, the hopping just helps the gas move out of the system, which is very good. You can keep giving simethicone if you feel she needs it. It isnt absorbed into the body, it stays in the GI canal and comes out with the poop. My bun had simethicone daily for more than a month last fall.
Hopefully you will soon be able to reintroduce a little bit of fresh grass. Grass is very similar to hay and unlikely to cause stomach upset this time of year. (Spring grass is very rich, but it’s not spring in the northern hemisphere now).
Moving around can be a good thing. I remember for one of my rabbits, I forced them to move around to get their intestines moving. Humorously, he always left behind poops as he hopped…he must have been very clogged up, haha.
Any chance the grass you’re getting is from a different location or has been treated differently?
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She’s doing much better, even hopping around by herself, started jumping on chairs and bed once again! And less of that sound today. And poops are pretty good too, already.
I haven’t thought that it might take so much time for an improvement. Was delusional, I guess, thought, if a bunny gets sick fast, it gets healthy fast too. After her diarrhea she was doing great two days later, but this one.. it’s almost a week she wasn’t herself.
We have grass all year round here and the soil is volcanic, so it is quite rich. I take it from our garden, we have a lot of space and don’t treat it with anything, though I’ve never taken her outside, there are so many other plants, that I identified as toxic for bunnies.
Thank you so much!! It is just so heartbreaking, when someone you love is not feeling well and you don’t know what exactly to do and the best vet around is not much help.
I truly hope all your bunnies are in a great health now! Can’t wait for mine to start binkying and being all crazy energetic again.
Fingers crossed she’s soon back to her normal activity level! It does sound very promising that she’s hopping around more!
Buns often gets sick quickly, in many cases because they do their utmost to hide any sign of illness until they nolonger can. Thats typical for prey animals, any sign of weakness and you risk being singled out by a predator. In your case though, the sickness really seems to have come on very suddenly though. It still takes a while to get the tummy back in good working order.
Sounds lovely to have fresh grass all year round! That also means your bun’s tummy will be used to grass all year round. The main risk with spring grass for rabbits is that they haven’t had any fresh grass all winter, and when it suddenly becomes available again they stuff themselves and their tummies can’t handle it.
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