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Forum BEHAVIOR Ear Infection Cause Sneezing?

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    • olliepop_bun
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        My boy Louie started sneezing and scratching his ears excessively, so I took him to the vet and she said that he had some fluid in his middle ear from an infection. She said the infection wasn’t in his inner ear but to watch for head tilt and other symptoms. Also she suggested that the ear infection could spread to a sinus infection which could cause sneezing.

        He only sneezes 1-3 times a day, and it’s usually not consecutive, like he doesn’t have fits. It also doesn’t seem to be in the same particular place, like he does it in and out of his litterbox so I’m starting to doubt its from hay dust. I haven’t seen any thick white discharge. It’s been all watery discharge. Except today right after he sneezed I swabbed his nose and there was a tiny bit of gooey stuff but it was clear. (Sorry that’s gross lol but I really had to dig to check him, cus his fur is white so it’s hard to see if its white discharge or not)

        He is currently on Baytril Otic Ear Drops, and oral Trimeth/Sulfamethox antibotics. It’s only been about four days, but honestly he doesn’t seem to be getting any better. I think the sneezing actually may be becoming slightly more frequent, and the ear scratching is just not changing in either direction. The vet told me to wait to hit one week at least and then we may consider switching antibiotics. He is still eating hay and everything, so no extreme reactions to the meds, but this morning I woke up and found like 6 cecotropes which I have never seen from him before. I don’t feed any of my bunnies pellets, they get unlimited hay and then a salad at the end of the day. I decided I would just feed him less greens and watch what happens. But the lack of change really worries me.

        I can’t find any information on these types of symptoms anywhere.

        Can ear infections really cause sinus infections? Does that mean the bacteria has to be pasturella?

        Could this spread to my other bunnies from his sneezes? (They live together but were a super tough bond so I don’t want to separate them. I have been cleaning excessively and so far my other buns aren’t showing any similar symptoms)

        Would it be safer to go ahead and get a bacteria culture done? (It’s expensive, 250$, but I will do it if there’s a big risk of him getting worse or it spreading to my other buns)

        Thanks for any advice 🙂

        -Stephanie


      • jerseygirl
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          The ear does drain into the nose, so yes it could cause the sneezing.

          Ear infections can take a while to treat, even 4-6 weeks so hang in there. I suppose it’s possible the drops themselves are filtering down and triggering some sneezing. It depends on how much they manage to shake out!

          Seeing some goop come out isn’t necessarily a bad thing. It’s good he’s able to expel it and it could indicate that the drops and antibiotic are loosening things up.

          I personally would take the approach you currently are;  treating with antibiotics typically known to help. I’d consider a culture if a few of the regular antibiotics don’t resolve the infection. I wouldn’t do one while he is on an antibiotic because those could affect the results.

          The meds can cause some poop changes so the extra cecal could be result of those. It might even be because of the sugary syrup the active ingredient in carried in.

          It could also be his balance is started to become affected but only when he moves his head in certain ways. You can imagine when the tuck their head right down to eat the cecal direct, that may cause some temporary loss of balance or discomfit that interrupted him.

          Some rabbits are fussy about any cecals once they’ve hit the ground and they won’t touch them then. 😄 While others are not fussed or even come back to eat them later.

          Could this spread to my other bunnies from his sneezes? (They live together but were a super tough bond so I don’t want to separate them. I have been cleaning excessively and so far my other buns aren’t showing any similar symptoms)”

          If they’ve been together all this time, they’re already exposed to anything the other had. I wouldn’t separate them. It would only cause stress and that itself can cause or exacerbate illness.

          If it is bacteria causing the infection, it’s even possible Louie picked it up from one of the healthy rabbits a long time ago but they’re asymptomatic or their immune system has taken care of it. Or it’s typical bacteria that lives in the rabbit normally causing some inflammation due to other factors.


        • olliepop_bun
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            @jerseygirl Thank you! That was a lot of good information 🙂

            He only left one cecotrope this morning after I lessened his greens last night, so you may be right about the sugary syrup in the oral medicine. It is cherry flavored and he loves it lol

            I did hear that before from someone, that the other buns probably already have it if they’ve been living together already, so separating them probably wouldn’t help, just wanted to make sure! Is my excessive cleaning a little bit pointless then? Louie also is my newest bun, he’s been living with the other two for a year now but it would make sense that he could’ve gotten it from them since he’s the new boy. I hope this isn’t a chronic on and off thing with him.

            My vet only has him on a two week course, but I might ask her to prolong it since I have been hearing about how tough bunny ear infections are. When is it safe to assume the infection is 100% cleared up? Like how do the vets tell?

            Thanks again for the help, I will try to keep you updated 🙂 This is my first time going through an infection with one of my buns so it’s really new territory for me


          • olliepop_bun
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              @jerseygirl

              Update: I just heard Oliver (one of my other two buns) sneeze a couple times 😥 That’s how Louie started out.

              Should I just go ahead and start him on the Oral trimeth/sulfamethox that Louie is on before I can get a vet appointment?

              If it’s pasturella he must have got it from Louie 🙁 He’s been having little eye crusties too lately, but no goo. Hopefully his is so early on it will die off fast. I’m really upset this has happened, as I was thinking that Louie got it from him and Lily so I was expecting them to be sort of immune. I don’t know where they would get it from so randomly if that wasn’t the case. They are all 100% indoors 24/7. And if Oliver has now caught whatever Louie has I should probably expect Lily to get it too. All three of my buns 🙁

              I’m terrified I will have three sick bunnies, or that this could get really bad. Has anyone else had a pasturella infection take over their trio?


            • jerseygirl
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                Should I just go ahead and start him on the Oral trimeth/sulfamethox that Louie is on before I can get a vet appointment?

                Im sorry for my late reply to you!  I advise you dont give Oliver any of Louie’s meds until you’ve had a chance to speak to the vet. If you havent yet arranged an appointment, could you ring to seek advice on this? Has Oliver continued to sneeze?

                Regarding the length of time Louie is on the current antibiotic, your vet might want to reassess after the 2 weeks and switch to another if they are not seeing any improvement. Since she was able to see some fluid in the ear, this will still be an indicator as to whether the meds is helping or not. Has there been any significant changes in his symptoms since you last posted here?

                Could there be anything in their enviroment causing some sneezing with them?  New litter, wood product, new batch of hay, air fresheners or scented candles near them?   Are they in a different area to where they had been previously?

                 


              • LBJ10
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                  How long have your buns been living together? I agree with Jersey, there is no point in separating them. My boys lived together for many years. One had chronic sinus and ear infections. The vast majority of the time, these things are not contagious. They are the result of an underlying problem. One rabbit may be susceptible because they have a crappy immune system, for example. Or they are a dwarf breed and internal facial anatomy is smooshed and doesn’t allow things to drain properly. It could literally be any number of things.

                  Here’s the problem with cultures… they are going to find all kinds of bacteria. That doesn’t mean whatever bacteria they manage to grow is what is causing the problem. Heck, the culture might even grow pasteurella… that doesn’t mean the rabbit is suffering from pasteurellosis. Tons of rabbits have it residing in their sinuses and they never become ill from it. Before doing a culture, I would try a broad spectrum antibiotic. If one doesn’t work, then try another one. If he fails to get better after a few tries, then a culture may be warranted.

                  How is your other rabbit doing? If they have been living together a long time, I highly doubt Louie gave something to Oliver just now. They would all have shared bacteria with each other a long time ago. This mean they have all been exposed to whatever it is… but it may just be Louie that has a problem.

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