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FORUM HOUSE RABBIT Q & A Painful Gas Every Two Weeks

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    • MiNinoJack
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        Hi again,

        I’ve posted before with some of Jack’s issues with stasis and my nervousness on how to treat. 

        We’ve gotten into a routine where about every two weeks the little guy comes down with what appears to be painful gas: laying down over and over, breathing hard and coming to me in a panic and flopping. 

        His only diet is timothy hay, oxbow adult rabbit food and the occasional oxbow treat (pieces of barley biscuits, timothy treats (super small), and at night and Apple Banana treat when I turn out the light. 

        He drinks a lot of water and is active. He is just finishing shedding, so it could be the fur…

        Anyway, when he presents with these dramatic episodes I am now trying to medicate him instead of running to the vet. The way I do this is to get him into his carrying case to limit his movement. I cannot figure out how to get him into a bunny burrito. He is not an easy bun to pickup – even the vet struggles. He can be very skittish. 

        Once in his box its a comedy show with him shoving his little face into the upper corners so I cant reach his mouth and most of the simethecone gets on his face which he eventually cleans off. 

        The gas somehow resolves while we are fighting. Last night this happened and after 5 min in his box I noticed that he was eating bits of hay and I fed him some more so he looked a little better. I let him out and watched him closely to see if he really did pass the gas. 

        He eventually jumped in the litter box and produced a good amount of fecals, although I observed that 2 of them had been stuck together resembling “cow poop” but it wasn’t uniformly oval. More like 2 pellets got stuck together while they were being formed while he was in distress. 

        So now I know if I can get him in his box and he is scared in there as I try to wrestle him to take his meds, he gets better pretty quickly. 

        What is causing his gas? How can I help my little guy avoid these episodes? My vet is not a lot of help – just treats for stasis every time and sends him home. 

        I am not good at handling him AT ALL. My stress level is so high with this happening so often. And I’m worried he will die young because of all these issues. 

        Any ideas as to what could be causing this? He’s 4 or 5 years old, about 3 lbs. Rescue. He has been healthy up until about 8 months ago, but nothing changed at that point. 


      • Bunny House
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          Hi,
          I don’t remember your old posts but have you tried to cut pellets all together and try and introduce veggies?

          Has the vet checked his teeth?
          Has the vet checked his ears?
          Has the vet done a barium X-ray?

          Does he poop often and consistent sizes?
          Does he drink enough water?
          Does It stop right after the fighting and then starts back up 2 weeks later or does it last a day or so?
          Does he get enough exercise? You might want to try and do some nightly agility stuff to make sure he moves a lot at some point during the day.
          Does he have poops strung together with hair?

          Stasis/gas is a symptom of an underlying issue, but I can’t think of anything else that could be causing this…


        • MiNinoJack
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            Hi!

            We cut veggies from his diet per the vet as veggies can induce gas.

            Has the vet checked his teeth? I would assume so since he’s been there so often.
            Has the vet checked his ears? Same as above
            Has the vet done a barium X-ray? No. What would this look for?

            Does he poop often and consistent sizes? Yes, most of the time, except for these episodes.
            Does he drink enough water? Yes. He drinks large amounts at a time and I witness it quite often (home at morning and night)
            Does It stop right after the fighting and then starts back up 2 weeks later or does it last a day or so? Stops right away! 15 min later he’s back to his old cheerful self.
            Does he get enough exercise? You might want to try and do some nightly agility stuff to make sure he moves a lot at some point during the day. He has a 4 story condo he moves around in during the day, and is out at night. He binkies and zooms ever night, but a little more lazy in the morning, lol.
            Does he have poops strung together with hair? Sometimes. He also sheds a lot. Lately there hasn’t been as much fur as he’s finishing his molt now. We’re going into the fall/winter so he won’t be shedding much for the next few months.

            I agree there could be an underlying issue. My vet doesn’t seem to raise any possibilities though. That’s why I want to come to her with ideas.


          • Yilina
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              Hi there! I believe (please, correct me if I’m wrong)) x-rays are used to see if the bunny has gas or if there’s anything else blocking his intestine. When my bun had gi stasis, the vet did x-ray and she knew that way.

              Just a crazy hipothesis. As he seems to recover fast, I wonder if there’s something that could cause the stasis. Maybe a change in his routine, somebody new in your house or even a dog barking..


            • Bunny House
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                The barium X-rays is when the barium is put down his throat and then X-rays are taken every couple of hours to see how slow his gi tract is moving.

                I agree, maybe some outside noise that happens every couple of weeks like mowing grass or utility company coming by and it stresses him out. Other than that I have no clue as to why he’s Doing it….


              • jerseygirl
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                  That’s interesting about the “stress poops”. I remember a little bit of stress helping one of my past rabbits also. A car ride, the stress and movements would help him pass things. I wonder if your vet would give you some ranitadine to keep at home? Some member here have found that to be helpful in heading of stasis.

                  and at night and Apple Banana treat when I turn out the light. 

                  I have a friend who had a rabbit that just couldn’t handle banana. It always triggered a tummy episode for him. She had 6 other rabbits and they were fine with a bit of banana, but not this one. It could be worth taking that out to see. Then try taking the apple out also. Could you use dried willow as a nightly treat?

                  Because this is happening so frequently and cyclic, I do wonder if his gut is imbalanced. Have you ever given him some probiotics? That could be worth a try.

                  I also recommend having his teeth checked while sedated. (Obviously look at doing this when he is feeling better)
                  Its a good place to start when there is mysterious tummy issues going on.


                • Q8bunny
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                    Due to its cyclical nature, I very much doubt it’s teeth, or blockage, or stress.

                    I would try a probiotic. Chewie gets a tiny bit of yogurt pretty much daily (I know the arguments, and yet from experience with him and other buns, I see the benefits). Keep him on hay and water for at least a few days first, to do a hard reset on his gut.

                    You could then go about it the way we allergy test hooms: reintroducing only one food item every couple of weeks to see if one’s the trigger.

                    But I’ll be honest with you, though: cut out the Oxbow for a while and see what happens. Some buns just do not tolerate grains or soy well, and oxbow pellets and biscuits all have them. There are grain/soy-free pellets out there you could try (some companies are happy to send you samples), and you could easily make your own flourless biscuits or offer dried flowers or dried aromatic herbs as treats.

                    During en episode, though, dosing with simethicone and forcing the furball to run around and jump is pretty much the best way to release the gas. Toot toot!


                  • MiNinoJack
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                      So hay only? I’m concerned that he autodraft get enough nutrition? How would you recommend getting him the probiotics? I can’t medicate him. Or at least its a real struggle I don’t want to try daily.

                      And yes, it is so interesting that stress seems to help him. I keep metacam and reglan at home for emergencies.


                    • Q8bunny
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                        Despite appearances to the contrary, a good grass hay is very nutritious for buns. So doing a hard GI reset (a few days of only hay and water) is no big deal. It just helps you start with a clean slate for slowly and gradually testing individual food items to identify the one that imbalances his tummy.

                        Probiotics like Bene Bac can be administered in food (sprinkled on top). I have some, but Chewie prefers a good quality plain yogurt daily. It’s what I used the one time in his life he had to take antibiotics for a chest cold, and his gut stayed healthy and happy. With most probiotics, you should be able to feed Jack rather than dose him med-like.

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