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Forum BONDING Bonding Advice – One aggressive, one carefree?

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    • Emmy53
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        Hello everyone! I’m hoping someone could give us some advice as we’ve started bonding our rabbits and are having a tough time. We’ve had my rabbit Oliver for 3 years and he is very sweet. He does have one aggressive behavior where he sometimes will lunge and growl at you when you walk away from petting him…but other than that he is very sweet and well behaved. The female Lyra we got when she was a baby but didn’t start bonding them until recently after she has been spayed and had time to heal. (Oliver is also neutered) She definitely has a lot of energy and is so friendly and sweet.

        When we first started to bond them we did the bathtub method since this is the most neutral in the house. Prior to this we had done pre bonding work like switching out towels with each other scents and also letting them be around each other in their cages so they could get used to each other. When we went to the bathtub, Oliver was very tense and stressed and he was starting the majority of the fights. Lyra has more energy so she would move quickly and I think it would freak him out to where he got aggressive? He would growl and lunge at her, and if it wasn’t stopped they would try to chase each other. We did a couple of bathtub sessions and found that Oliver was just so tense and stressed that it may not be a good location so moved to a different room in a small pen. We would put 2 litter boxes and double sets of food to keep them entertained but the same still occurred where Oliver was crouched in the corner of the pen angry and stressed.

        More recently and after doing even more research we tried to take a big step back and put them in 2 very small pens right next to each other so they can see each other very well but cannot touch each other. We did that for about 2 weeks. They both seemed comfortable as they would both eat hay next to each other, hop around and even flop over and completely relax. Only a couple of times did Oliver growl at her. Just recently we made it so the cages are touching. Lyra is very confortable as always…it seems no matter how aggressive he gets with her she is still in a good mood and even binkying. However, when Oliver and Lyra touch noses in the pens he tries to scratch her and we hear a growl.

        Whenever he gets aggressive or growls we spray him with water and yell “no”. We have also tried stressing them in a small box and ran the vacuum around them, but not much luck. Does anyone have any advice? The strangest thing is that outside bonding time they will be super nice to each other. Lyra will be in her cage while he is out playing (and visa versa). He will come right up to her cage and touch her nose – no aggressive behavior. Then he will proceed to eat hay out of her hay feeder through her cage bars. I know bonding can take a while but it seems we have been at this for a while and are getting the same results. Please help!


      • Bunny House
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          Bonding can be a pain. How long did you prebond for?


        • Emmy53
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            Honestly probably 3 months? While the teen was waiting to get spayed/healing.

            Just had another bonding session today where we stressed them with the dryer then put them together. Oliver the older one seems to be getting aggressive over who will groom who when they put their heads together. We were able to get her to lick his forehead with some banana smeared on It a couple times! He refused to groom her though.


          • Bunny House
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              That is a good amount of time for prebonding. I would think that Oliver is the submissive one as he seems like he wants to be groomed as dominant ones groom. Usually the girls are the dominant ones haha, go figure. I would wet your fingers and rub both of the buns ears with them next to eachother and then stop and see if one starts grooming the other, it sounds weird but it may trick one into the dominant position! You are doing everything else right, sometimes bonding takes months, i know, very long but it’s at the buns control of figuring out the hierarchy.


            • Emmy53
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                So for the past couple of days we have done about 1 hour per day in a single pen, with us sitting inside. We put each of their litter boxes at opposite ends and one hay feeder in the middle. There have been a lot of good signs. We pet Oliver any time Lyra comes near him as that seems to keep him calmer. The first couple of days he basically stayed on his side of the pen and did not move around much. Yesterday he moved around more and today he moved around a lot. Sometimes just ignoring her and moving past her, but better than attacking her. She has groomed him a couple of times, but only when the banana is used. He has never groomed her and she doesn’t seem interested in grooming without the banana on him. She loves sitting near him though. She’ll hop next to him and stick her head against the side of his, and flop over next to him. Yesterday and today she has started humping him. We let her go for about 10 seconds and then move her. He takes it as long as we are petting him but we aren’t comfortable letting her do it without that. We are still not sure how to interpret his lunging/growling/maybe nipping. He will mostly do it when they are face to face. Both put their heads down for grooming, and he will either lunge and growl pretty quickly, or after a few seconds of them being head to head with no one grooming. We move him away and tell him no, but why is he doing this? Is it a harmless dominance move that we need to allow them to work out? We don’t want to let him hurt her. Usually she doesn’t seem bothered by him doing this. Sometimes she doesn’t even react and stays there with her head down. Other times if he seems to surprise her she’ll retract a little bit but doesn’t runaway. How do we interpret this behavior?

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