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Hi, so I have a beautiful free roam neutered English lop house rabbit, Grayson. A few weeks ago I came home from work and could tell he was sick. I took him to the vet the next morning. He had sores inside his mouth. So he used to go outside, and clearly had eaten something that irritated his mouth. The vet gave him fluids , put him on an antibiotic and an anti inflammatory. He also drew blood. I had to do critical care for several days because he didn’t want to eat with his sore mouth . After a week he was back to his old self.
So, a few days or so after this happened my rabbit Tallulah also got sick. She stopped eating and it looked like her head was starting to tilt slightly. She has stopped eating in the past a couple times and usually recovered after a couple of feedings of critical care. But the head tilt was new. So she went to the vet. Her ears seemed fine, so the vet thinks she has e cuniculi. He gave her panacur and Meloxicam. She is slowly getting better, eating fine and all. She is not free roam. She is bonded to two male bunnies and lives in a large dog pen in my basement. Her dog pen is part of another larger walled off enclosure where four other bunnies ( 2 bonded pairs), live in their hutches, but each have a part of this larger walled off enclosure to run around, so they all have contact with each other, confusing I know . None of those other rabbits show any signs of sickness. My vet said they did not need to be treated. He says many bunnies have e cuniculi, but their immune system takes care of it.
So, right after I thought Grayson was all better, I pick him up and hear him wheezing. So back to the vet we go. Now the vet thinks he has pasteurella. He does not have visible drainage from his nose, just the wheezing. He gives him a shot of penicillin. Draws blood, the results are fine. He says he needs to be on weekly penicillin injections for several months. After a few days the wheezing stops, but he still sounds nasely.
A few days before all of this started I got a baby rabbit. I let Grayson and her meet a little bit, but she is mostly kept separate from him. But they were together for a short time to say hello. Stupid I know I should quarantine a new rabbit. I have had her for three weeks now though, and she shows no sign of illlness and is doing great and almost quadrupled her weight.
So, I am bummed and am left wondering what is going on and what did I do that caused all this and will my rabbits be okay. Last night Grayson was great, running and binkying like crazy but this morning he sounds nasely again. He no longer gets yo go outside except for a few minutes of close supervisiom. Did my new bunny cause the pasteurella? Or was Grayson’s immune system weakened from the mouth sores and was succeptible then to it? My vet says most rabbits have pasteurella, but their immune system fights it. I know this is a super long post, but I had to get this out, it’s been a super stressful several weeks, and I have questioned my care as a rabbit owner. So thanks for reading if you made it all the way to the end.
I know it can be stressful and im right there with you. I’m dealing with similar issues with two of mine.
I’m glad tallulah is better! Two of mine have pasturella and it will flare up with wet nose and sneezing. The best thing you should do is get Grayson a X-ray to look at his chest to see if there is fluids in his lungs and then go from there. My buns usually go on metranitrozol( butchered that) when they have flare ups.
Bunnies should never be introduced unless they are going to be bonded. The baby could have been a carrier and gave it to him, or he could have had it all along and the stress of a previous illness could have brought it to flare up. The baby should be seen by a vet and can get tested for diseases it has so you can know if you can bond her or not. He should have the snot around his nose sent in for a culture so you can determine what it is and how to treat it. It all costs a lot but it’s better to do it right the first time than to keep trying other ways(trust me?)
Don’t question your care as a parent! Bunnies are difficult to treat and find the cause of illnesses. I’m going through a tough time and I just want to throw in the towel but keep going and keep doing research online so you can be educated and be able to talk to your vet about what you found, and itl make you smarter and heck, it’s fascinating reading about bunny illnesses.
You’re a great bun parent so keep it up ![]()
Your vet is right about most buns being carriers of pasteurella. The immune system as a rule keeps it in check, but some buns get sick. It’s not known why. The immune system being challenged by sth else is a theory that seems highly plausible.
Since your new bun is not showing any signs of illness, it wouldn’t have helped to put her in quarantine. She’d still have been a healthy carrier after two weeks in quarantine. It is good to quarantine a new rabbit, but the rationale is that a hidden disease will break out during the quarantine period so you can treat it or take other measures (if it’s sth deadly, think rabies in dogs).
Adding a new rabbit to a household always causes some stress on all rabbits involved. Rabbits are sensitive to new rabbits in their territory. A baby would be accepted though, a baby doesn’t pose a threat. Male rabbits are very protective of baby buns, so it’s not just a female rabbit thing. As Bunny House says, don’t question your care as an owner, the important thing is that you have a good vet and your buns are beeing given appropriate treatment.
Your vet seems rabbit savvy, many vets prescribe a too short course of antibiotics for pasteurella. Pasteurella is often stubborn (as Bunny House also points out). Recovery can be slow and gradual, so you’ll need patience.
Hi,
Thanks for the reassurance and feedback. The strange thing is that Grayson has no snot by his nose or wet paws or sneezing. The only symptom he had was wheezing when I picked him up. If my baby bunny Luna is not the carrier, now I’m super worried she will get it too from her exposure to Grayson. My plan is to bond the new bunny, Luna, and Grayson together when she is older and spayed.
I’m really confused if Grayson truly has pasteurella. He did have an unexplained sore by his neck, but when the vet put a needle in to pull out the fluid it was a clear liquid, not a thick puss that you would see in an abscess, which I know can be caused by pasteurella infections. He didn’t have an x-ray, so I will ask about that, his blood panel was all normal. I’m worried about the new bunny now. I am planning on taking her for a check up since she is new, hopefully this week. But if she was exposed, I’m not sure it would show up yet.
Bunnies are great at cleaning themselves so most of the time, we never know if they have snot unless we catch them in the act. The vet can always swab in and around his nose to get a sample and send it off just to see if he has it.
Usually pasturella won’t show up unless it’s flaring up. So she could have it but it not be active in her if she has a good immune system but keep us updated and let us know what you find.
Hi Bunny House,
How often do your rabbits get flare ups? Are they your only 2 rabbits, and if not how do you keep your other rabbits from being exposed? I’m taking Luna to the vet tomorrow. I’m super nervous and praying everything is okay with her. I read so much too to try to learn more, but get frustrated by different or contradictory information. My vet didn’t seem to think it mattered about keeping Grayson separate since he believes most rabbits carry pasteurella, but online lots of people say to isolate your rabbit with pasteurella and that you can pass it around on your clothes and such. I’m so confused.
I honestly couldn’t tell you, it just happens usually without any cause so a couple of times a year. I have two others and I just keep them separated.
Unfortunately there is a lot of contradicting information on a lot of stuff for bunnies as they still aren’t quite a lot of studies done on them like dogs and cats. As bam said before most buns have it but some buns have weak immmune systems so only some will show symptoms. It’s just like if I was sick and I coughed on you, you may not show symptoms of the illness but you can pass it to someone and they can show symptoms of it. The little one probably has it if it was from her mom or from Grayson. I don’t know if that helped any.
Hi Bunny House,
I took Luna to the vet today, she seems to be healthy, but she sneezed a few times yesterday, so the vet put her on some antibiotics. I think I need to trust my vet. I read too much online, and freaked myself out. ?
I’m glad she’s on meds! ( make sure to use probiotics when she’s on it like florentero or bennebac even though there isn’t too much research on wether it helps or not, it might help her since she is a baby) I hope everyone gets better ![]()
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