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Forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A Color change in the urine after peeing

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    • bombur
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        Hi to everybody,
        I have a holland lop eared bunny named bombur. I have a trouble with him and I could not find any solution to bomburs problem whixh is as follows:
        More tham one month ago, he started to peeing in red color and sometimes in brown. Sometimes he makes the per in normal yellow color and afterwards his pee turns out to red. I have searched many forum sites and unfortunately I have no rabbit savvy vet nearby and I do not know what to to do. Please help me if you have encoıntered this problem before. I need your help please respond.


      • Terra
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          Hi there. Have you been feeding Bombur anything different – any new veggies or greens? There are some pigments in some plants that bunnies don’t metabolise and it can turn their pee red or brown – even if the plant isn’t that colour to start with.

          Does he look like he’s in pain when he pees? Is he messy underneath or on his legs with urine stains? Is he drinking more than usual? Is he eating less, or behaving differently? Does he flinch with pain if you rub his tummy? If the answer to any of these if yes, he may have a bladder infection and should be seen by a vet, who can prescribe antibiotics (potentially after analysing some of his urine). If you’re satisfied that he’s otherwise healthy, there’s a good chance it’s coming from what he’s eating, but you should still take him to a vet if you aren’t completely sure.

          It also might be helpful if you could post a photo of his discoloured pee!

          Do you mind saying where you are? Someone here might be able to find a good rabbit vet near to you.


        • Wick & Fable
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            There’s red and then there’s orange. Red is blood, which indicates something is wrong. If you have hydrogen peroxide (usually in a first aid kit), put some drops on the pee. It will fizz if it has blood. If it doesn’t, you’re probably seeing a more orange pee, in which case that is normal. Orange pee and blood in urine will both dry to be more brown, so it’s important to distinguish between the two.

            Orange pee can occur based on food, but it can occur randomly as well. Wick has more orange pees than not, which wasn’t always the case.

            The answers provided in this discussion are for general guideline purposes only. The information is not intended to diagnose or treat your pet. Seek the advice of your veterinarian or a qualified behaviorist.


          • bombur
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              Posted By Terra on 8/03/2018 6:47 AM
              Hi there. Have you been feeding Bombur anything different – any new veggies or greens? There are some pigments in some plants that bunnies don’t metabolise and it can turn their pee red or brown – even if the plant isn’t that colour to start with.

              Does he look like he’s in pain when he pees? Is he messy underneath or on his legs with urine stains? Is he drinking more than usual? Is he eating less, or behaving differently? Does he flinch with pain if you rub his tummy? If the answer to any of these if yes, he may have a bladder infection and should be seen by a vet, who can prescribe antibiotics (potentially after analysing some of his urine). If you’re satisfied that he’s otherwise healthy, there’s a good chance it’s coming from what he’s eating, but you should still take him to a vet if you aren’t completely sure.

              It also might be helpful if you could post a photo of his discoloured pee!

              Do you mind saying where you are? Someone here might be able to find a good rabbit vet near to you.

              Hi there,
              Thanl you for your response. Actually it is nothüng different in feeding to note. I was feeding him with a leaf of kale everyday. However, I have seen in somr websites that kale contains high amount of calcium and I have stopped to giving kale. Actually there is nothing unusual with his diet. His diet consists of hay, food mix, a few amount of fresh veggies and fruits.
              He does not look like he is in pain when peeing. But in this period, he is making a lot of pee droppings. I have seen pee stain in his leg for one time. His drinking behavioır serms normal. I am making him a apple juice and water mix to increase his water consumption. He generally does not want me to touch his tummy. İt is not a new thing for us. I dont know why. I have consulted to a cat-dog vet and he prescribed ciprpflaxin he suspectrd from UT infection but I could not be sure because he has no serious profession about bunnies. I will post a photo of his pee soon as soon as he made it in floor.
              I am in Trabzon Turkey. There is a animal hospital app 350 kms from here. I think I will go there soon if he does not go normal.


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                Posted By Wick on 8/03/2018 9:13 AM
                There’s red and then there’s orange. Red is blood, which indicates something is wrong. If you have hydrogen peroxide (usually in a first aid kit), put some drops on the pee. It will fizz if it has blood. If it doesn’t, you’re probably seeing a more orange pee, in which case that is normal. Orange pee and blood in urine will both dry to be more brown, so it’s important to distinguish between the two.

                Orange pee can occur based on food, but it can occur randomly as well. Wick has more orange pees than not, which wasn’t always the case.

                Hi there,
                Thank you for your cooperation. Actually, he is making red, yellow, orange, brown. But the unusual thing is the color change. He is making a normal yellow colored pee and then pee turns out to red I think as it meets with the air. It is very unusual. I have madr the peroxide test and the result is negative that it means no blood in the urine. This situation makes me confused, I dont know what to do.


              • Bam
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                  I’d do the peroxide test. If that is negative (i.e. no foaming), the red pee is most likely normal. I’ve seen my buns pee a light color that then deepened into orange/red after about 20 minutes. Blood in pee tends to be in specks or blobs, not uniformly red pee.

                  Rabbit pee comes in many colors. The colors come from plant pigments, many green plants (for example dandelions) contain carotenoids that are bright orange, only we can’t see the orange while the plant is green. Red pee can also be produced spontaneously for unknown reasons, for example after the first cold spell in autumn.

                  Here’s an article from the House Rabbit Society:
                  http://rabbit.org/journal/3-1/red-urine.html

                  If you google red urine rabbits, you’ll get lots of hits. The House Rabbit Society and Medirabbit are trusted sources.


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                    Posted By bam on 8/03/2018 4:06 PM
                    I’d do the peroxide test. If that is negative (i.e. no foaming), the red pee is most likely normal. I’ve seen my buns pee a light color that then deepened into orange/red after about 20 minutes. Blood in pee tends to be in specks or blobs, not uniformly red pee.

                    Rabbit pee comes in many colors. The colors come from plant pigments, many green plants (for example dandelions) contain carotenoids that are bright orange, only we can’t see the orange while the plant is green. Red pee can also be produced spontaneously for unknown reasons, for example after the first cold spell in autumn.

                    Here’s an article from the House Rabbit Society:
                    http://rabbit.org/journal/3-1/red-urine.html

                    If you google red urine rabbits, you’ll get lots of hits. The House Rabbit Society and Medirabbit are trusted sources.

                    Thank you for your response.
                    Here comes physical evidence.

                    Pee instant: https://ufile.io/g4zqi

                    Pee 10 min later : https://ufile.io/fztf0

                    Pee 30 min later: https://ufile.io/r17a8


                  • Bam
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                      I didn’t see your reply to Wick when I answered. Good you made the peroxide test!

                      I think this is normal, because it corresponds with what I’ve seen in my buns when they’ve peed on a puppy pee pad. I think it’s oxidation of the pigments in the pee. I’ve noticed the color change from light yellow to sometimes very deep orange, because its rather fascinating. A dog- and cat vet would of course be alarmed if a dog or cat turned up with bright orange/red/brown urine, but it is very common in buns.


                    • LBJ10
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                        The color change is the result of oxidation.


                      • bombur
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                          Posted By bam on 8/04/2018 5:14 AM
                          I didn’t see your reply to Wick when I answered. Good you made the peroxide test!

                          I think this is normal, because it corresponds with what I’ve seen in my buns when they’ve peed on a puppy pee pad. I think it’s oxidation of the pigments in the pee. I’ve noticed the color change from light yellow to sometimes very deep orange, because its rather fascinating. A dog- and cat vet would of course be alarmed if a dog or cat turned up with bright orange/red/brown urine, but it is very common in buns.

                          Lets wait and see. Thanks.


                        • bombur
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                            Posted By LBJ10 on 8/04/2018 7:00 PM
                            The color change is the result of oxidation.

                            Might you please share the cause of the oxidation, if you know? Because it was not present one month ago.


                          • Bam
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                              Medirabbit doesn’t explain exactly how the plant pigments oxidize, just that they do: http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/Uro_gen_diseases/generalities/Sludge.htm

                              Chemically, oxidation means (any) loss of electrons. Biologically oxidation can be enzymatic or non-enzymatic. Carotenoids readily oxidize.
                              http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10971842/


                            • LBJ10
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                                There is some debate, but degradation of plant pigments can be influenced by light, temperature, and other factors. Different pieces of the same type of plant can have different amounts of pigment (including pigments you can’t see). This would ultimately influence how much plant pigment ends up in the urine. Plus, there are likely different environmental factors influencing the urine itself once it has left the body. Urine containing plant pigments can change color after it has been exposed to the air (due to oxidation) and it can change color at different rates depending on the conditions. So yeah, it’s complicated. LOL

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