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    • TheRex
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        Hello people,

        Thought I’d come on here, look for some points of view on the matter.  Even though no one can be 100% sure yet.

        I have two rex rabbits, male and female.  Yesterday they went for their normal check-up, injections, nail clippings…etc  But my female was found to have what was described as a ‘mass’ on her right hand side.  Naturally, I immediately think the worse, and get upset.  They had a good feel around, and mentioned a few possibilities, but I was too upset to properly absorb it.  I just heard things like ‘kidney, liver, and scarring’.  I thought cancer, right away, but I suppose it could be benign.  Either way, I think it’s going to look like an operation.

        I asked for bloods and an x-ray to be done.  The x-ray is fitted in for next week, but I’m already panicking that’s too long.  And the bloods will not get back until Tuesday or Wednesday, because of the bank holiday weekend.  

        It’s torturing.  My eyes are so puffed up from crying, I stupidly looked up what to do with the survivor bonded mate should it be the worst case scenario, and what I read was heart breaking.  

        What I don’t get is, she’s not in pain.  She’s eating, drinking, nibbling hay, jumping..etc all her normal stuff.  Only her poo looked more smaller today, but might have been the stress from yesterday.

        Does any of this ring any bells to anyone?

        Regards,

        The Rex


      • Ellie from The Netherlands
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          Oh that’s very shocking indeed, I totally understand that you didn’t absorb all of it! I’d go crazy if we’d get that news about our Breintje. A mass can be so many things: an infected mammary gland, a cyst, an abcess, a benign growth or a tumor. Only the vet’s tests can say for sure. You’ve done everything you can for now, sadly it’s just waiting for the tests and the results now. It must be excruciating

          I’m glad to hear that she isn’t showing any obvious signs of discomfort. One of the first signs of pain/discomfort is a grumpy withdrawn rabbit. Most rabbits will mask their discomfort because they’re a prey species, so best keep a look out for her over the weekend. If a rabbit isn’t eating, drinking, peeing or pooping it’s an emergency, so best be prepared just in case that happens. Be sure to have the weekend vet’s number on hand and a way of getting there. Standard first aid supplies for a sick rabbit include Critical Care food which you can give if your rabbit refuses anything else. You can get it at the vet or at some pet shops.

          Wishing you all the best in these difficult times. I hope other forum members will have helpful ideas.


        • Bam
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            I’m very sorry your bun has a lump. It’s highly understandable that you’re upset and that it’s hard to cope with the weekend interfering with continued investigation.

            Is the lump inside the abdomen or under the skin? Since they mentioned liver and kidney I assume it’s internal.

            There are many reasons for lumps and bumps in rabbits and other pets. Some are bad and some are not. Even if it should be a cancerous growth it might not have spread in which case surgery could cure her of the cancer.

            It’s great that your bun still acts normal and has a good appetite. The smaller poop sounds like a likely effect of the stress of a vet visit.

            Critical Care is good to have on hand, as Ellie says.

            Here is an article about various lumps and bumps a bun can get:http://www.thesprucepets.com/rabbit-tumors-1239350

            It’s not a complete list, but it offers some suggestions.


          • TheRex
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              Yes, it’s internal.  Yesterday had to take her to the emergency, because she stopped drinking, eating, pooing…etc  The Vet visit must have stressed her out, but she’s on medication to get her gut moving now.   Last night, all she did was sit in the corner, doing nothing.  Wouldn’t touch her hay.  So I decided to dip the hay in water, and strangely enough, she ate it.  

              They have their own bedroom, but when I’m in my room, they run around (it’s a bigger space.)  So I’ve let them in early today, and she’s running around as normal.  Not eating yet, gonna keep an eye on her poo production.

              For now, I’m going to tell myself it’s something benign…or try.  Because I can’t stop getting upset, and she’ll feel my vibes.  The Vet said the lump inside is the size of a tennis ball (or golf, can’t remember, was a bit out of it again.)  And also so, when they operate (once her bloods come back, they don’t wanna operate if it’s her kidneys and stuff) that if it’s cancer and spread, connecting to her organs, it’d be kinder to put her to sleep while in surgery. So I hate the fact, you have to say ‘goodbye’, not knowing if she’ll come out or not.

              As I say, I’ll try to think positive.  I hope it’s an abscess, I think you can have those internally?  It’s caused by trauma, and a week or two ago, she misjudged a jump, and her stomach knocked into the side of the surface.  Just have to try and keep positive vibes for her, and make this week enjoyable for her and him.  He (her mate) is a bit of a loss as to what is happening.  When she’s quiet, he don’t know why she ain’t doing stuff with him.  Hopefully he’ll settle too.

              Thanks for the replies.


            • Bam
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                I hope she’ll start eating soon. It’s true they are susceptible to our emotions.

                Abscesses can form anywhere in the body. Other possibilities are cysts and benign tumors.

                I agree that the kindest thing would be not to wake her up if it’s cancer that has spread or can’t be removed. That’s a horrible thing to think about though. Your plan to make this an enjoyable week for them both sounds very good. Try to focus on that. (I know it’s so very hard though).


              • LBJ10
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                  Hmm… Without any other symptoms, it seems an enlarged organ would be less likely. If it was the kidney or liver, you’d think there would be symptoms consistent with that.


                • TheRex
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                    Small update.

                    The blood results came back.  Poppy has dehydration, anemia and underlining kidney disease.  So it could be possible the mass is something to do with her kidney.  It sounds weird, but I hope it is that, rather than cancer.  Because the Vet seemed more ‘positive’ when talking of options involving the kidney.  Plus, I know such things can be ‘treated/managed’.  I’m just wondering now how she got that in the first place, but she is ‘middle aged’ the Vet had said.

                    I find it extremely weird that no symptoms have presented themselves before though.  Before the Vet visit, that is, Poppy didn’t display anything that would have alerted me to a problem.  She was her happy self, eating, drinking, doing binkies, playing with Storm…etc  Strange.

                    Tomorrow is the big day.  The x-ray, so we’ll find out what the mass is.  Hopefully she won’t have to stay in over night, it’s an early morning appointment, but it depends on how she is after the anesthetic.  Storm will be with her, but worried for him too.  He’s a nervy rabbit, and I’m bracing myself for GI problems, as he’d got so nervous once before it brought on a bout and had to have medication.

                    Oh, and Poppy is eating and being her normal self again, right now.

                    Thanks for all your words of encouragement.  Just need to breathe, and hope for the best now.


                  • LBJ10
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                      Weird! I’m kind of surprised here because if the kidney was that bad, you’d think there would have been some indication. But I suppose, rabbits do have a tendency to act like nothing is wrong despite already being quite ill. I’m glad the vet is feeling positive. Kidney disease is easier to treat than cancer. Good luck with the x-ray!


                    • TheRex
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                        What a story, so far…

                        I’d geared myself up (emotionally) for Poppy having an x-ray yesterday, and when we got there, the Vet told me that two people had cancelled their appointments and so if it turned out that Poppy needed an operation, it needed to be decided once the x-ray came back. 

                         It was a 30 minute wait, and when I saw the x-ray, I just couldn’t believe what I was seeing.  A perfectly ROUND object on one side of her body, and it looked like it was pushing all her bones to one side.  In my head, I’m saying, cancer isn’t ’round’, riiight?  It’s got to be an abscess or a cyst?!  But it was MASSIVE.  The Vet was passionate, and urged me to make a decision there and then, sign papers, because it was a major operation and no promises she’d come out alive.  And I’m thinking, if I don’t go through with this chance now, that thing is going to get bigger and I’m going to lose Poppy some months from now, if we don’t TRY. *deep inhale*  

                        It was an agonising ONE HOUR wait, before Poppy was out of the operation.  The Vet came back POSITIVE and said she’s certain it’s an abscess, but it was best to send off cultures…etc to get it tested for nasty bacteria and the like.  And it’s a good job that the operation was done now, because it started to somehow begin to try and attach itself to the liver’s ‘stem’ or something. *exhales*

                        Both Poppy and Storm spent the night at the Vet’s, and she has a TON of medication to take, to fight pain, infection…etc  Unfortunately she picked up an eye infection, but I’m just so grateful that she’s okay.  Of course, the Vet said remain vigilant.  But she’s back home, eating, pooing, weeing, and everything!  Storm is happy to be back too, he fell right off to sleep, and was twitching in his sleep (must have been up all night worrying about his other half )

                        I won’t say how much such an operation cost, you might all just faint.  But Poppy should name be dubbed Princess Poppy.  No expense spared, and drained my savings! LOL  I’m just so happy, she’s worth every penny, and if I get another six years out of my bunny baby, that’ll be an added bonus!!!!  Can’t believe how attached I’ve become to these two, love them so much.

                        Thanks everyone for your words.  And will probably make another update when her results come back, and see if I can take a picture of her x-ray to show the size of that thing.

                        All the best!


                      • Melanie
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                          I’m happy to hear your rabbit is recovering so well. I am in the same situation. A golf ball sized lump was removed from my girl 2 weeks ago. I am waiting for toxicology to come back with the results of what caused it. What an agonizing experience this has been. Hopefully they are both back to normal soon. 


                        • TheRex
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                            UPDATE:

                            Got the results back from the mass.  It’s saying that she has something called:   yersinia pseudotuberoubsis 

                            I immediately saw ‘TB’ in that, and didn’t have time to talk to the Vet (they’re gonna phone.)  The Vet seems positive that we caught it early and have given us Enrofloxacin to give to her for three weeks.

                            BUT I looked it up on google (worst thing you can do?) and I’m KINDA concerned.  As it said here that it can transfer to other animals AND humans?????  Anyone got any ideas before I go into absolute panic mode.  Though the Vet is calling…. hopefully soon.


                          • Bam
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                              Oh wow! I’m glad the surgery is over! People can get yersinia pseudotuberculosis but it’s mostly from lettuce etc. Maybe no kissing her on the nose until she’s finished the antibiotics? Take extra care when you change her litterbox and wash your hands after contact – that’s just normal precaution of course. It seems children are more susceptible than adults.

                              I found this rather interesting article: http://www.infectiousdiseaseadvisor.com/infectious-diseases/yersinia-pseudotuberculosis/article/610495/


                            • Ellie from The Netherlands
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                                Glad to hear that it all went fine! Get well soon sweety! I hope that the AB’s will kick in quickly ^_^

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