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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS

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- 05/08/2018 at 7:46 AM
  Sunny
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  Hello bunny friends,
  
  Two days ago my well litter-trained bunny strated to take some pees outside of her litter box, but as she was acting normal I didn’t worry much. Yesterday she started to pee some orange urine. It surprised me since she didn’t eat any orange or red food lately (she’s on a hay and pellet diet with ocasional veggies a fruits). I did the hydrogen peroxide test and it didn’t turned out to be blood, so I didn’t worry either.
  
  Today she has runny poop. She seems fine, acts normal, eats her hay and pellets, but still she has some diarrhea.
  
  I’ve tried to call my vet but they’re closed at the moment, I’ll try later again.
  
  Should I worry much? What can cause this issues? The previous poops she made were just perfect.
  
  Thank you.
- 05/08/2018 at 8:13 AM
  Bam
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  Red pee can occur spontaneously in rabbits, i.e. without a change in diet etc. It’s normal and nothing to be worried about.
  
  How runny is the runny poop? Is there mucus or “gel” in the runny poop? Are there normal round poops as well as the runny poop? If there are round poops as well as runny poop, this is not true diarrhea but rather a very common condition known as ISC, intermittent soft cecotropes. This is a good article about ISC and diarrhea in bunnies: https://rabbit.org/intermittent-soft-cecotropes-in-rabbits/
  
  Peeing outside the box can have many reasons. Difficulty jumping in and out of the box, the box having been placed in the wrong spot (a few inches can make a difference to a rabbit ), difficulty controlling urine (sometimes a sign of a UTI). Sometimes you never find any good reason and the problem resolves spontaneously.
- 05/08/2018 at 8:14 AM
  Wick & Fable
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  Don’t worry about the orange urine — that’s normal. Wick pretty much only pees orange urine now honestly. It’s just something rabbits do.
  
  The runny poop is the primary issue. You can give her simethicone to help with any potential gassiness, as well as a tummy massage.
  
  Can you give a run-down of her diet and how much she eats of what? Runny poop is usually not enough fiber (not enough hay) or something was eaten that caused gastric distress.
  
  The answers provided in this discussion are for general guideline purposes only. The information is not intended to diagnose or treat your pet. Seek the advice of your veterinarian or a qualified behaviorist.
- 05/08/2018 at 8:29 AM
  Sunny
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  She is currently making liquid poop without round poops, and she’s trying to drink it. They’re surely not cecotropes.
  
  I’m hearing gurgling noises from her stomach.
  
  She wants and begs for more pellets and eat some hay, not as much as usually, and seems a little bit weak. But stills she’s begging me for the pellets she adores and moves a little around her cage.
  
  Normally she eats about 85% hay, 10% pellets (abot 6-7 big pellets a day) and 5% veggies and fruits (though I should be giving her more veggies)
- 05/08/2018 at 9:21 AM
  Wick & Fable
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  How much fruit do you give her? Fruit and veggies shouldn’t be lumped together, since fruits are actually treats. The high sugar consumption may be a part of this. What veggies do you give her, and how long has she been eating these veggies?
  
  Completely liquid poop is not a good sign, and you should take her to the vet. It sounds like she’s in really bad gastric distress.
  
  The answers provided in this discussion are for general guideline purposes only. The information is not intended to diagnose or treat your pet. Seek the advice of your veterinarian or a qualified behaviorist.
- 05/08/2018 at 9:39 AM
  Sunny
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  I usually give her about half slice-one slice of orange a day maybe 5 days per week. And the veggie I feed her the most is roman lettuce, maybe one leaf per day, and I some times give her a little bit of parsley and other bunny safe lettuces and herbs. She’s always been on this diet without any problems and my exotic pet vet told me it’s a fine diet.
  
  She’s still begging for pellets and eating a farely good amount of hay. She’s also drank water by her own so hopefully she’s not dehydrating.
  
  It seems the liquid pooping has stopped and the last poops she’s made were smooshie. Also, the poop frecuency is lower now, it seems like she’s stablelizing. I don’t hear the gurling as often either.
  
  There’s only 30 more minutes til the vet reopens… I’m ready to call.
- 05/08/2018 at 9:42 AM
  Wick & Fable
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  I think a call is best, so someone can listen to the body and hear if there’s anything weird going on. I would back down on the orange. Depending on where you live, I know romaine has had some outbreaks of E Coli recently, so just be mindful of that (unsure of the symptoms of E Coli; but just a thought for the future).
  
  It’s good that the poops are somewhat solidifying, but it’d be good to figure out a cause so it doesn’t happen again. Rabbits love to search for crumbs and stuff to eat, but the occasional upset tummy doesn’t ever evolve into true liquid poop, so something a bit more major may be at play. The hay consumption and water consumption are both very positive, so it’s good. Hopefully whatever was affecting her is moving through.
  
  The answers provided in this discussion are for general guideline purposes only. The information is not intended to diagnose or treat your pet. Seek the advice of your veterinarian or a qualified behaviorist.
- 05/08/2018 at 11:06 AM
  Sunny
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  Sunny has just pooped regular round poops and hasn’t had any other runny poops in an hour. She’s more active now (she even jumped out of the cage directly onto my bed) and has been eating more hay. I still hear some gurgles every now and then but it seems she’s pretty much back to normal.
  
  I’ve called my vet and they have told me that as long as she’s pooping back to normal it’s not an urgency and that it’s best to keep an eye on her and not stress her out with a trip to the vet yet untill she’s fully recovered.
- 05/09/2018 at 2:49 PM
  Sunny
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  Update: the vet has prescribed Sunny with simethicone and probiotics, since it seems like she’s not in pain or extreamly ill. Sometimes she does poop some diarrhea, but she keeps eating hay and her stools are generally round and fibrous tough a little moist.
  
  I have to ask you for advise. My bunny really doesn’t like to be held or touched (unless if there’s petting involved) and it’s getting imposible for me to give her the medication. I’ve tried to syringe feed her the simethicone but she puts up a fight and I can’t manage to give it to her. The probiotic has a more creamy consistency and I’ve tried to offer her some pellets with the cream, but she rejects them as the smell is not appealing. Finally I’ve tried… smearing? (sorry, I’m not native in english) her fur with the medicines to force her to ingest them by liking the fur, but a great fraction of the dosis is lost in this method. What other methods could you advise me? I hope the dosage she’s ingesting is enough…
- 05/09/2018 at 3:15 PM
  Wick & Fable
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  This is how I give Wick meds if he doesn’t like them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N12eJ5vdo4w
  
  In the future, you can get simethicone at a local pharmacy because it’s just infant gas drops.
  
  Giving a treat after she takes the medication (full dose) is a good idea. In terms of simethicone, no harm will come from a rabbit getting a little more than usual. Simethicone is always given as a first resort, so feel free to give a little more if you feel she hasn’t digested any. I won’t say a lot won’t harm a rabbit, but I think even like, twice a full dosage wouldn’t harm a rabbit. An entire bottle? Maybe.
  
  You can mix the probiotic with mashed banana. The riper, the better, because banana smells very fragrant, so it can mask any unpleasant smells.
  
  The answers provided in this discussion are for general guideline purposes only. The information is not intended to diagnose or treat your pet. Seek the advice of your veterinarian or a qualified behaviorist.
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