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Forum BONDING mixed messages with bonding!

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    • C.King
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        Hi guys, sorry to post another bonding help topic but I’m just so lost with all the things I’ve read and and different suggestions so I’d love some advice on what to do next!

        So I’ve got a 7 month old mini lop, male, neutered, and recently adopted a female lionhead who is neutered and healed. They’re currently in seperate indoor hutches close to each other so they can see and smell each other.
        We’ve taken them up to neutral territory, the bathroom, where there is enough room for them to interact but not too big that we cant seperate them.
        So we sat up with them for an hour yesterday (myself and my husband were sat in the bathtub watching netflix and let them get on with it!) there were a few scuffles, bottom biting and fur pulling, which I know is all normal, but broke them up and it was fine again. Took them back downsatirs and put them in their respective hutches, I’ve heard that we shouldnt do this as it goes back a step almost? So now my question is what do I do?! I can’t sit in the bathtub day and night to supervise them, they eventually have to go back to their cages and I have to go to work! but does this mean that I’m going back a step again?

        Eventually they will have free reign of the living room where at the moment they both have access to in shifts, so when I’m totally happy that I don’t have to supervise them in the bathroom do I cage off an area and stick with the supervision and then gradually increase this area and decrease the supervision?

        Please help!


      • Melissa Rabbit
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          it sounds like youre not bonded yet, so i dont think separating them is detrimental to your progress so far.

          when i was bonding my rabbits, Annie and Tibbers, i worked 50 hours a week. Annie was very aggressive towards Tibbers for a long time–i had pretty much given up on them bonding, and gave them separate cages with a space they shared in shifts. one day i saw Annie grooming Tibbers through the bars of the cage and i realized something had changed because there was no aggression whatsoever. after that, the bonding process went really quickly. their next dates were significantly longer (7 minutes then 30 minutes then 2.5 hours then 6 hours then 8 hours) until they were together whenever i was home and awake. then i started letting them stay together while i slept. i still separated them when i was at work for at least a week before i took the plunge and let them stay together after i left the house. soon after, i was greeted by two very snuggly bunnies every time i came home.

          the whole process, from their very first meeting until they were together 24/7, took about 8 months. it sounds like youre making progress. how long are your dates now?


        • C.King
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            Thanks for the reassurance Melissa!
            So I tried again today and sat with them for just under 2 hours. Again there was some scuffles and broke them up and they were fine.
            They always seem to stare each other out…like put their noses together and just sit there pressed up against each other for a minute or so…is this a good sign?! When they are out individually Indie always runs around Nalas hutch and she seems to be enjoying the attention by doing little binky hops..again do we think that this is a good sign?
            Sorry for all the questions and I know it’s a time consuming patience thing but I want them to be friends so much! And just don’t know what is good and what is bad! It seems to be going well one day and then not the next!


          • Melissa Rabbit
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              i think when they’re pushing their noses together, they’re requesting that the other bun groom them. do you see them kind of hunker down when their noses are together? ive seen buns get into a stand-off when they’re both requesting grooming and both being stubborn, and that sometimes causes aggression. sometimes you can trick the bun into thinking it’s being groomed by petting it, which eases the tension

              bonding can be really tricky! its important not to get too stressed about it because of course, the buns can sense it. two hours is good! keep at it!


            • Sirius&Luna
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                It sounds like you’re rushing quite a lot. Once you bring a new bunny home it’s important to give them time to settle in (at least two weeks) before you start prebonding. This is because often when a bunny is in a new environment, it acts differently to how it will act in an environment its comfortable in. So you might introduce a pair, they get on well, then a month down the line they have a huge fight when the new bunny feels comfortable enough to challenge the old bun.

                So, let the new one settle in for a couple of weeks, then start swapping them between each others hutches every day for a month. This is so they become used to the smell of each other.

                After that, you can start doing short bonding sessions in neutral territory. Some people do a ‘marathon’ bond, where you literally leave them together and monitor them non-stop for at least a week until you’re comfortable that they’re bonded. But obviously, that isn’t practical for most people, so most people just work up to an hour a day, then increase it slowly from there. There’s nothing wrong with separating them, but it is important to try and do a session every day.

                You also shouldn’t let them ‘just get on’ with fighting. I know some people advocate leaving them to sort it out, but that’s dangerous and counterproductive. You should separate them before fights occur, and need to be watching their body language closely. Biting and fur pulling must be stopped immediately, or they learn that the other bun is aggressive and can’t be trusted.


              • C.King
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                  Thanks for the advice so far and we have definitely made some progress in the neutral territory! There’s been some grooming and lying down next to each other, no fighting or fur pulling!

                  So we’ve gone the next step and set up a small pen in the living room (which will be their neutral living space). There’s been lots of circling, honking and mounting from Indie (bare in mind this was all his space before we got Nala) and Nala has not been aggressive to it…which is a postive sign? I’ve managed to leave them unattended for a short time without any fights, just plenty of advances from indie and honking which Nala is tactfully running away from or accepting.
                  Is this all good signs?! I’m going to observe them all night and see if anything changes or an understanding is met.
                  Just want to know that I’m doing the right things and what I’ve seen is all normal and good signs?!

                  Thanks for all your help!


                • Sirius&Luna
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                    Grooming and lying next to each other is good.

                    You shouldn’t be leaving them unattended ever, until they’re bonded. It only takes a tiny misunderstanding for an all out fight to break out.

                    You should also be intervening to stop circling as that often turns into a ‘bunny tornado’ of fighting.

                    You haven’t said how long you’ve had the newest bun? But my opinion is that it’s still going too quickly.


                  • C.King
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                      Oh that’s good news! They haven’t lay down with each other while in the pen but they seemed to be comfortable over night and I didn’t have to get up to stop any fighting. But ok I will stop the circling.
                      Is it normal for Nala to be accepting the grooming but then running away when Indie tries to mount?

                      I’ve had Nala for 10 weeks. She was neutered when I first got her and had more than a month to heal and settle in before I started the pre-bonding.


                    • Sirius&Luna
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                        Lots of bunnies don’t like being mounted, as it’s about signifying dominance when you’re bonding. If she runs, and Indie chases, you need to intervene.

                        It’s good that you did prebonding, but you seem to be going straight into very long sessions. I’ve been bonding my bunnies for over a month now, and I’ve only just got to doing 6 hours at a time. This is because if you let them slowly build up the time they spend together, they can build trust over time. If you leave them together for 12 hours, they haven’t really got comfortable together, unless you’re just going to marathon bond for a week or so.

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