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- 02/05/2018 at 12:30 PM
  Alex&Clary
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  Hello! I am trying to bond a pair of rabbits and want to have a journal of everything that goes down, so I or others can use it in the future.The pair is Brownie and Tumbleweed
  
  Brownie is a female mix rabbit, small type, about 5.5 lbs or 2.5 kg, brown, spayed and about 1 year old at time of bonding start.
  
  Tumbleweed is a male Lionhead mix rabbit, about 4lbs or 1.8 kg, black, neutered and about 7 years old.
  
  Both were adopted, Brownie first then Tumbleweed.
  
  I am using the micro space bonding method, for reasons I will explain in a moment.
  
  History,
  
  Brownie needed a partner, she didn’t get along with my 2 other rabbits, and was lonely, so I went to a shelter and did speed dating, twice, and we decided that Tumbleweed was the best choice for her, because she was indifferent about all the boys she met, and he wasn’t made nervous by her. I brought them both home, to my college dorm, and let them settle in for about a week without interference from me related to bonding. After that first week I set up a neutral space in my dorm, which is difficult because I have a very small room! But it happened, and I put them together and Brownie was very aggressive towards TW, so I calmed them down and then ended on a positve note, by having them sit face to face and me petting them. Then I ended the date. Things went on like this for a while, about a week or 2, with not progress. Then TW started being very nervous around B, so I decided to give dating a break and just switch litter boxes. Then I read about Micro Space Bonding.
  
  Here is the link:
  
  Bunny Bonding Blues – Micro Space Bonding.
  
  Day 1
  
  So because of the large success with this method I decided to try it. I started with a 28inX28in cage, and it was too much room, they were chasing and biting and overall bad news, so I decided to make it even smaller, starting with 14x14in, and I put them in, they couldn’t do much to each other except circle some and groom, so I let them sit like that for a while, about 2 hours. It went well, B stopped pulling TW’s fur, and so it was overall calmer, and when they did have spats they were short lived with minimal fur pullage.
  
  Then I increased the size of the cage to a 14x28in cage, and they again had a little spat about the space, but grooming again started, and then I had to go so I put them to bed after B groomed TW, and so they ended on a good note.
  
  Day 2
  
  Now it’s day 2, and they are in the 14x28in cage, there was some circling at the very beginning but it only lasted a few seconds, then they went to ignoring each other. They have hay, water, and pellets, and a small litter box. There has been no grooming yet, but B asked and they sat there looking and waiting for about 10 minutes before TW hopped away. They have been in there for about 45 minutes at this point, and so far so good.
  
  One key about the micro bonding that I have now seen first hand, is that you need to let them squabble as long as they aren’t causing damage, because the fights always end quickly with my 2, and they are figuring it out on their own.
  
  Thanks for reading! As I said I just want a journal of my progress, and I hope that this can help someone else!
  
  I hope to keep updating with how things are going!
- 02/05/2018 at 3:14 PM
  Alex&Clary
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  Update:
  I expanded their cage again, it is now 28x28in, and they are doing amazing! No chasing or anything when I expanded the space. TW has officially groomed B, and B groomed TW back. They are sharing a bowl of pellets, and are both eating and drinking water. I set up their permanent space, and I took away all blankets that have been used by them and replaced them with a fresh clean blanket. I reused their litter boxes, but they got cleaned and filled with fresh litter. They will each still have their houses, but that will be about it for personal items from their old cages.
  This method is very effective in my eyes, and I have read that other people have had good success with this method, and I believe that my pair will be able to be in their permeant cage by tomorrow afternoon. I am going to leave them in the small cage over night and see how that goes, and then if it all works out I’ll be moving them to their new cage after my classes tomorrow.
- 02/05/2018 at 4:09 PM
  Alex&Clary
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  Update:
  It has been about 4 and a half hours, and B is sleeping in a loaf position, her usual position, and TW is sleeping next to her, its going really well! I have never bonded rabbits before but this method seems to be doing amazing!
- 02/06/2018 at 2:51 PM
  Alex&Clary
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  Update:
  They have been together for about 26 hours, and no fighting, and really no issues, they are alternating between ignoring each other and grooming, so thats good. I plan on moving them to their permanent cage after my class gets out in about an hour. I am very hopeful that this will be a solid bond! I will keep this updated though!
- 02/07/2018 at 4:55 AM
  Sirius&Luna
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  Just popping in to say hi! It’s great that you’ve found something that’s working for you.
  
  I would keep them in the neutral space for 48 hours at least before you move to their permanent home. You should definitely remove their old houses from the permanent space – you can reintroduce in a few weeks once the bond is solidified, but at this point you don’t want anything they might be territorial over. You should also wipe down the whole area with a water/vinegar mix to remove smells, and rearrange if possible.
  
  You will also need to monitor them for another 48 hours in the permanent home, and it’s not unusual for them to take a step back in the bonding process when you move them to a new space.
- 02/10/2018 at 10:28 PM
  Alex&Clary
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  Thank you!
  They have now been together for 4 days in their permanent inclosure, cleaned the tarp, cleaned the boxes, washed all the blankets and such, and they have been doing really well. They are grooming each other and sleeping near each other, its going well!
- 02/14/2018 at 5:43 PM
  Alex&Clary
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  Update:
  They have been together since February 6th, and it is the 14th of February. There has been some humping from TW, but B doesn’t really mind, she just takes it or runs away, it usually only lasts a few seconds, short enough that by the time I get up to stop it, its over. B is still looking and hoping for kisses, but she also just seems happy to have a companion. TW gets his kisses when he asks, and when he doesn’t. They eat together, and it seems like they both get plenty to eat which was something I was worried about, since TW is older.
  Overall I would recommend this method if you are willing to watch and let things happen on their own, because I noticed when I stepped in that thats when things would take steps back, but if I let them wait it out and beg for grooming that they would usually give in, and groom the other.
  I would recommend, but be aware that you might have to use a really small space at first.
- 03/21/2018 at 8:35 PM
  Alex&Clary
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  Update:
  It is over a month on, and they are doing really well, they have had a couple car trips home, and during a fire drill, all went well. They live together and have gone from my dorm to my room at home and have done really well, they still groom and cuddle and such, TW humps when he gets excited though, and when he’s feeling good, I have tried a new supplement with him and it seems to really improve his arthritis pains, so he has been much happier. Brownie doesn’t retaliate after the humping, she just hops away. There are lots of kisses, and mutual grooming, B still grooms more than TW does but it is pretty well split. Overall very cute, and I am excited to try to either find partners for my other 2 or bond them, haven’t decided yet!
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