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Forum BONDING Is this normal behaviour for a neutered male?

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    • Konijn
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        Last week, we adopted a lovely two/three year old neutered male rabbit from animal charity Blue Cross called Hercules, to be bonded with our six year old female rabbit Molly. Their cages are next to each other, and we have been doing some scent swapping as well so that the rabbits can get to know each other before meeting in a neutral area.

        However, Hercules always gets sexually excited around Molly; he will stand on the side of his cage which is next to Molly’s cage and make loud honking noises and stamp his feet, and when Molly is hopping around in the room while he is in his cage he honks very loudly, throws himself against the bars of his cage etc. Because they seem to really like each other, we attempted an initial bonding session in a neutral room yesterday, but he jumped on Molly straight away and she was terrified so we cut it short; afterwards, he remained excited for half an hour or so, and he was humping everything in sight – towels, my knee, etc.! 

        To me, this seems very odd behaviour for a neutered male. I have bonded rabbits before and although there was chasing, mounting etc there was no overtly sexual behaviour. I have spoken to Blue Cross and they have suggested that he may never have encountered a female rabbit before in his adult life and that he is just over excited and needs a bit more time (he was a stray). He was fully examined by a vet when he was brought into Blue Cross, who established that he had been neutered already, and no testicles are visible. Is it at all possible that the vet made a mistake – is it possible that the testicles of an unaltered male are not visible? He was with Blue Cross for a month before we adopted him – if he was neutered over six weeks ago, is it possible that his hormonal levels have not settled yet? Has anyone else encountered this type of behaviour when bonding a neutered pair? 

        Apart from his behaviour around Molly and the occasional honking and circling around us, he does not display other behaviours typical of unaltered males, such as spraying urine.

        Any advice would be welcome!


      • sarahthegemini
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          Hmm, my boy was neutered last December and has been bonded to my doe since Jan/Feb of this year and he still gets excited sometimes – he’ll run around her in circles, honk and try and hump. He usually, my gets over it pretty quickly though! I always joke that it’s because my doe is beautiful <3

          Is Molly spayed?


        • Konijn
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            Perhaps with a bit more time he won’t get as excited then…

            Yes, Molly is spayed.


          • Luna
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              It’s possible that he is intact and his testicles are not visible – BB member, Boston’s Mama, had a similar instance if I recall correctly.


            • Konijn
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                That’s good to know – I was wondering if this may be the case with Hercules, although you would think that the Blue Cross vet would have been able to establish whether this is the case? What I think we’ll do is wait a few more weeks to see if he calms down a little around Molly, and if he doesn’t take him to our vet for a second opinion


              • DanaNM
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                  Almost every boy that Bertha has dated has always gotten very excited at first, but in most cases this has settled down after a couple weeks of pre-bonding.

                  It is possible the vet made a mistake though… When most shelters spay, they give the animal a tattoo so that it’s clear they’ve been altered. I wonder if that isn’t common practice for neuters?

                  I think your plan of doing a bit more pre-bonding to see if he settles down and then going for a second opinion is a good idea.

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                • Dee
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                    I think the reasons everyone else has given you are much more likely, but I did want to raise a remote possibility if you find that your boy bunny really is neutered and doesn’t settle down. It is possible for make rabbits to have growths or overactivity in their adrenal glands, which causes them to act intact. It is pretty common in ferrets but not so much in rabbits, but it happened to my male rabbit, BunBun. In his case, we decided not to pursue the reason for his behavior, as most vets said it was likely behavioral and finding out what it was would’ve involved sedation and scans, which seemed unnecessary to put a healthy bunny through. I wish I had looked into it though, because I found out after I needed to have BunBun put to sleep due to masses in his lungs that the growths were probably cancerous and had spread. There is a medication called Lupron that they use with ferrets to control the growth of the adrenal gland issue, and human females for certain problems with the reproductive system. I don’t know if it would help in the case of malignancy, but it would make sense, since human cancers are sometimes treated by supressing the hormone that “feeds” them.

                    Just something I wanted to throw out there in case it remains a mystery. Hopefully, this will be much more easily solved! Especially since your bunny is relatively young, I expect that he’s just very enamored with his new girlfriend ?. Good luck!


                  • Konijn
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                      An update: we have since discovered that Hercules has in fact not been neutered! His testicles are small and hidden in his thick fur but they are definitely there – we took him to our vet yesterday who confirmed what we had been suspecting. He is going under the knife next week!

                      In any case, Molly seems to really like him – she often stops by his cage on her way to another room (they exercise in different rooms for now!), presses her nose against his and does a little binky – too cute! Fingers crossed that once Hercules’ hormones have settled after the operation, it will be an easy bonding.


                    • Wick & Fable
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                        What a discovery! I’m glad the operation is booked. Neuters usually go quite smoothly; just make sure to limit space a bit and remove any blocks or boxes that may encourage jumping or climbing. Rabbits don’t know how these movements can potentially open their sutures and lead to infection and pain. You’ll also want to check the site every day, just to make sure it’s looking okay. If not provided, I’d ask for a few doses of pain medication to take home, just in case. It is normal for a male to not drink for a day or so after a neuter (reported by many, including myself), but you want to try and encourage eating as much as possible!

                        It’s great that Molly seems to like him already It’s cute imagining a nose boop and binky.

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                      • sarahthegemini
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                          Oh my, hidden testicles! LOL. Good luck with the neuter, as Wick said they usually go pretty smoothly. My boy was up and eating 10 minutes after waking up from the anaesthetic apparently! He also charmed the nurse so she gave him some of her apple. The little scamp.

                          Feel free to make another thread if you want more tips and info for the recovery

                          I don’t want to get too excited but it sounds like it would be a nice easy bond between him and Molly!

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