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So I’ll start off with this “I don’t think anyone can help me”
Lol.
(That’s not a challenge btw.. the challenger in my hastens to add)!
Quick recap: someone I knew, her bunny died from VHD2. That kicked my behind into gear and I took fluffykins in to be vaccinated. Here we have the combo vaccine (for myxo and vhd1) then supposed to have the vhd2 2 weeks after that.
Fluffykins reacted badly to the combo vaccine, one week after it he developed sores. Went off his food, very sleepy etc etc. Took weeks for this all to be over and now we’re left with a permanent part of his ear missing (like I needed the reminder of this episode in our lives)! I’ve also never mentioned here, he was moulting when all this started and he had a full on bald patch (that usually resolved in a week when it’s normal moulting) but this bald patch was fully bold until 1 day ago (so it’s been fully bald for over a MONTH).
I put it down to his immune system dealing with the sores and things and not having any time nor enegery left over to deal with growing his body fur back again.
No mites, nothing else, it just didn’t grow whilst the whole time he was sick. It sprouted hair yesterday actually and this morning the skin is fully covered with hair. So I’m confident in another 4 or 5 days it’ll look normal again.
My point is that pesky combo vaccine caused us so many health issues in a bun that was completely healthy.
I was supposed to give it a month then take him back in for the VHD2 (with antihistamine).
I don’t want to. Pure and simple fact – I don’t want to.
Another simppe fact – I don’t want him to die from VHD2 (or myxo or VHD1 but that worry is for next year when the booster time comes around…*joy(!)*)).
I don’t know what to do. I feel like I’m gambling not vaccinating him but I’m gambling when I am vaccinating him! Like I said, with the bald patch growing hair now I can finally start to say he’s FULLY back to normal FIVE weeks after the pesky vaccine. FIVE weeks of trauma we’ve been through and I did that. I did that to him.
But then he might DIE. Curse you VHD1,2 CURSE YOU!!!!!!!
I would do it. Unfortunately I’ve heard of lots of rabbits dying from VHD2 recently, and personally, I don’t think its worth the risk.
I know he might have a reaction, but it shouldn’t be life threatening. It’s also possible that he just had a reaction to the combined one, and will be perfectly normal this time. Plus, hopefully by next years joint one he’ll have more of an immunity and might not react so badly.
Edited to add – not that its not scary and your fears aren’t unfounded! I just think, to me, the vaccination with possible side effects is still the best option.
But but but.. the reaction was life threatening. Not the reaction itself (the sores) but he went immobile and sort of stopped eating. If I didn’t keep pestering and waking him up to handfeed I can totally imagine I’d have been dealing with stasis. It was pure luck my hubby was on a really light workload that week so he dealt with the kids and school and I dealt with the rabbit. I don’t know if I’d have the same options to devote ALL my time, for a week or so to him, if he reacted the same way again.
I hated not seeing him play ;(
Plus his poor ear. What if next time a bigger chunk was to fall out ;(
UGH. SUCH a hard decision!! Do you know if it’s really rife in London?
a chunk of his ear fell out?? That does sound horrible.
I haven’t heard of many cases in London, but I know there’s lots in the surrounding areas.
Maybe ask your vet how many cases they’ve heard of, and what their advice is in your specific situation.
The thing that concerns me is that it stays active for quite a while, so you can infect them by bringing it in on your shoes etc.
This is quite a tricky situation and I don’t necessarily think there is a right or wrong answer. Having said that, I would probably chose to vaccinate and deal with the reaction afterwards as you’re now aware of what could happen, you might be better prepared? Is there anything the vets could administer to lessen the side effects?
I understand stasis can be life threatening but usually with quick intervention, recovery is easier and faster and I would rather deal with that than the risk of rhd2. How much of a risk is rhd2 where you are? I live in a suburb town type area and my vet said they’ve had one confirmed case of death by rhd2 and one suspected. I suspect those in the country are more at risk. Then of course you’ve got to take into account that for the best chance of the vaccine being successful, it needs doing every 6 months. I don’t envy you ![]()
The thing about these diseases is they aren’t treatable, but a reaction is.
If he had a bad reaction he can be nursed through it, but if he contracts either of these he won’t survive.
Vhd is a cruel disease and is airborne. You can carry it on clothes and shoes. I had a very sick rabbit who couldn’t get the vaccine and my life was torture trying to keep everything decontaminated – I showered before entering the room, no outside clothes etc (I was told by vets it was a high risk area) think bam went through something similar
There is also a chance that he won’t react as badly to the annual booster as he’s already been given an “infection”
Was he on any probiotics leading up to the vaccines? He may have reacted badly due to a weak immune system.
But maybe the antihistamine will help?
I think both forms of RHD and myxo are now treatable? If caught early or something.
I’m not sure how prevalent it is in London, I know from another forum there have been at least 2 confirmed cases last year; and I found a map online that tracks cases as they pop up but I have no idea how accurate it is (if at all). There are defo lots of confirmed cases all over London if it’s correct.
Ugh ugh ugh.
I just hate taking a perfectly happy healthy bunny and then making him sick for a couple weeks, it seems so counter intuitive!!
Sarah, the vet did say for the next shot, he’d give it along side an antihistamine so there’s that… But I keep thinking what if the antihistamine doesn’t work?! Allergic reactions (if continually exposed to the allergen) have a very real risk of becoming more severe, there more you’re exposed.
Anyway, I also read yesterday the VHD2 vaccine, contains VHD1 & 2 and (really worryingly) no one knows yet the consequences of giving VHD1 *twice* (because you also get it with the combo vaccine).
I keep thinking (like in human medicine but to a lesser extent) all our bunnies getting this vaccine for these next few years are serving as the “guinea pigs”. What if there is some really bad long term effect of having VHD1 twice that we’ll only know in 10 years time??
What if fluffykins reacted badly to the VHD part of the previous combo vaccine and now he’s about to get a double dose?!!
I think both forms of RHD and myxo are now treatable? If caught early or something.
Where did you see that? As far as I know and as far as my vet is concerned they aren’t treatable as there’s no specific treatment available(hence the urge to vaccinate against)
Depending on the strain of myxo most vets will euthanize the rabbit upon diagnosis, because the suffering is immeasurable.
There are cases where they survive, but it is rare. Early symptoms are often impossible to see, and with acute the lesions will have started to spread in 24 hours with a 90% mortality rate within ten days,
The chronic form is less aggressive and rabbits with it have a 50:50 chance. This is the form that vets will try and treat if possible but it is still a huge amount of suffering for the rabbit.
VHD can be fatal in a matter of hours, with many owners not even realizing the rabbit is unwell. It is also largely untreatable due to its fast acting nature with most rabbits dying within three days of symptoms, it is also about 90% fatal.
I keep thinking (like in human medicine but to a lesser extent) all our bunnies getting this vaccine for these next few years are serving as the “guinea pigs”. What if there is some really bad long term effect of having VHD1 twice that we’ll only know in 10 years time
Rabbits only live about that long anyway so their life is enhanced by having the vaccine. The life span of a wild rabbit tends to be about 6 months on average.
While there is a foundation for your fears there is also a strong reason to give your bunny a vaccine. Are you sure it was an allergic reaction or was it a reaction to having the live attenuated vaccine, ie, your rabbit had a low dose of the disease and acted accordingly as his body tried to adapt to it?
RHD2 can kill without symptoms. Gina and Jenny both had reactions to their first myxo/vhd jabs, not as bad as you describe, but enough to leave them both visibly under the weather for a couple of days, with scabs where the needle went in, but reacted less to their second ones a year later, and they only had minor reactions to the vhd2. Our other 4 buns were fine with all their jabs.
Im going to go against the grain and say I wouldnt risk it unless your vet advises. If your vet heavily advises that you try the vaccine again, then I would go for it. But if my rabbit had life threatening reactions to it a second time, I would never give the vaccine to that rabbit again.
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