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Forum DIET & CARE Critical Care TOXIC after 24 hours? What about in homemade bunny cookies?!

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    • Dee
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        Hi Everyone,
        I’ll post an update on Luke later, but he just got his teeth trimmed and I have an urgent question. He LOVES the Critical Care cookies I make for him and they are pretty soft. But I just saw on a rabbit rescue site that Critical Care is toxic after 24 hours! Obviously you can’t just mix it with water and leave it sitting for a feeding the next day, but I’m wondering if it means in cookies too. L use pellets until I get a definite answer, but those cookies are awesome- unless they are really poisonous ?. Now my crazy mind is thinking that’s the cause of Luke’s belly troubles…
        Anyone else know anything about this being fact or fiction? Btw, I refrigerate the cookies are they cool.


      • Bam
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          No it doesn’t get toxic in cookies. The reason why it gets toxic (or hazardous) after 24 hours is that CC has lots of nutrients and hay, you add water, it becomes a feast for bacteria and other microorganisms, for example yeast and mold spores. It’s like when you grow stuff in a petri dish – the wet CC functions as a nutritious growing-medium. Most adult people understands this, esp if they’ve had taken care of a baby, because you’d never pre-mix formula and let it sit for 24 h and then feed it to the baby,- but, for example, very young people might not have that knowledge.

          The environment is not the same in the cookies if you bake them or dry them thouroughly. But if the cookies are moist, stuff will start to grow, although slower than in wet CC. Again this is sth most adult people knows without having to think twice.

          An opened sachet of dry CC kan be kept in a freezer for 3-6 months or so, and after that time, it’s just the nutritional value that has deteriorated, the CC hasn’t become toxic.


        • Wick & Fable
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            If anything, you keeping them in the fridge would be tolerable for extended hours, but not beyond 24hrs I’d say, just to be safe. When Wick was on critical care, it was fine to have a mix in the morning and refrigerate any remainder for a couple hours until the evening feeding… never keeping it for longer though.

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          • Wick & Fable
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              Also, I assume you’ll mention in your update if there were complications, but a standard dental grinding (if it was the molars) shouldn’t require too much post-op care from my experience. Wick has had three and bounces back pretty much right after we get home.

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            • Dee
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                Thanks, Bam and Wick! In my sleep deprived and worried state, I was thinking that perhaps there was some enzyme or probiotic in there that was especially dangerous after 24 hours. Doesn’t take much to alarm me these days lol. That all makes sense.

                Bam, you’re right, the vast majority of people would know not to just mix the Critical Care and let it sit around- or do that with formula- but I guess anyone writing an article must not assume that the general public knows this. Saying it turns TOXIC was probably a simplified way of explaining what you just did. Just like they have the Do Not Eat warning in silica gel packs and other such instructions.

                I think to be on the safe side, I’ll will be sure the cookies dry out extra long in the oven, and make very small batches daily. I never kept them for more than a couple days, but it’s not worth the risk. Poor Luke doesn’t need his human poisoning him on top of everything else!

                Wick, I’m glad to hear that Wick has recovered smoothly from his molar grindings! Hopefully Lukie will do the same. I’ve never had a bunny need this, so it’s new to me. I have read that some bunnies are pretty dramatic about it and need to be syringe fed for days. With my luck, that will be Luke!


              • jerseygirl
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                  {{{Luke}}} I hope you see the dental trim resolve the issues he’s been having.

                  If you’d like the CC cookies to remain a bit soft, could you freeze them?

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