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Hi Everyone,
So my little bunny Theo had to be rushed to the vets last night as he was refusing to eat, wouldn’t come out for his usual evening run around the house, kept shifting and couldn’t sit still and was trying to sleep in his litter box which is not something he ever does. He was clearly in a lot of pain and not at all himself. The vet said he didn’t have any blockage but that his tummy was a little swollen and his gut did seem to have slowed down. She also said his heart rate was really high (even for a bunny stressed from car journeys). She gave him a couple of injections and measured his blood glucose levels. She then sent us home to monitor him and critical care syringe feed him several times through the night.
By about 2am back at our house he was freezing, wasn’t moving at all and had his eyes closed. He wasn’t even putting up any fight when we were picking him up which is completely unlike him. We ended up turning the heating onto max, wrapping him up in a towel and cuddling him against our chest next to the radiator to try and warm him up. We couldn’t even syringe feed him as he refused to swallow anything, instead he kept spiting back out the tiny bits we we’re giving him.
By 5am I think the pain medicine must have kicked in, he had begun to warm up and ate a piece of grass that I was waving in front of his mouth. I then spent the next hour hand feeding him individual blades of grass and he gradually started to pick up. I even persuaded him to eat a couple of critical care pellets and he had a little poop which is always a good thing in bunnies.
By 10am it was almost like he was back to his old self, as he was eating grass quite happily (I was cutting him bowls from the garden and bringing them to him), he was using his litter tray and eating pellets. He was also moving around quite happily. We had a follow up appointment at the vets which we took him too and she was happy with his improvement, She then gave us lots of medication to give him over the next 3 to 7 days to keep his gut moving and reduce his pain.
My problem though is that having given him the medication when we got back from the vets today (now around lunch time) it really stressed him out. He hated us holding him still, and kept kicking, biting etc. and wriggling out. We tried several times to wrap him a towel (a bunny burrito as the vet called it) so he couldn’t wriggle away but he still managed it. His heart was pounding by the end of it and he was clearly very upset and terrified by the whole ordeal. I’ve also tried putting a drop of medication on a mint leaf and wrapping it up to give to him but he wasn’t having that either. I don’t now know wether the stress of me giving him the medication is worth it. He’s behaving virtually completely normally, eating, pooping, moving around. So should I stop giving him some of it and only give it to him if he looks like he stops eating again? Or do i need to keep putting him through this? I was going to try to keep giving him the pain medication but stop the ranitidine and other gut stimulant one.
Any advice would be hugely appreciated !
I’m going to start by saying I’m very new to bunnies. I’ve only had Marshmallow for one month, BUT soon after his arrival at my house he went into GI stasis.
The vet gave me pain meds, metoclopromide (gut motility), and wanted me to give Critical Care and simethicone (for gas). Several hours after one very, very stressful dosing/feeding, he seemed to be OK — eating, pooping, bright and alert. Given how awful the experience of getting the meds and Critical Care into him had been for both of us and how well he seemed to be doing, I didn’t give him the next dose. By morning he had relapsed and was back to not eating and acting like he was in pain. After that, it took 4 days of regular syringing (pain meds every 24 hrs, gut stimulant & Critical Care every 8 hrs) before he was feeling like himself again. And the vet recommended that he continue to be on everything for at least 2 days after he started eating and pooping normally, which I did.
I’m not sure whether my experience is the norm or not, but at least for Marshmallow one dose was not enough (in spite of how well he was acting initially) and the need for the meds and Critical Care outweighed the stress of administering it. Though, mercifully, by the last dose on the third day, he’d gotten much less stressed out about taking the meds and Critical Care. (By that point wrapping him in the “burrito” was stressing him more than the actual administration of stuff, so I stopped using the towel except as a drop-cloth.)
I hope some more seasoned bunny folks also weigh in to give you other perspectives, but that is the story of my very limited experience.
I honestly think this is a question for his vet. Normally I’d agree with Deb and say keep giving him his meds, but with the very fast heart rate that the vet thought was too fast even for s stressed-out bun, it seems to me like it could be risky.
A violently struggling bun is not a lethargic bun, so that’s very good. But very impractical when you must feed the bun things. If he’s eating properly on his own now and toiletting like a good boy, I think I’d just keep a very close eye. If he stops eating you’ll have to start him right back on meds and CC.
Did the vet tell you how high his blood glucose was? I’m wondering out of curiosity. It’s a way of measuring stress levels in a bun indirectly -stress causes cortisol to be released and cortisol elevates the blood glucose.
I hope he’ll keep eating, pooping and being active. I think you probably saved him by warming him up. The pain meds lower body temp and a bun in stasis is already prone to hypothermia, so warming him up was a really good call.
Hi Deb, thanks for sharing your experience. I’ll be honest it’s not what I wanted to hear as I find it so horrible having to force my bunny to take the medication but it sounds like I need to do it. He’s had the pain relief and half of the ranitidine without an issue, but he’s now decided thats enough and won’t have the Metoclopromide.
Out of interest, was your bunny eating normally after that first dose or was it just the critical care he was eating?
Posted By bam on 10/07/2017 2:16 PM
I honestly think this is a question for his vet. Normally I’d agree with Deb and say keep giving him his meds, but with the very fast heart rate that the vet thought was too fast even for s stressed-out bun, it seems to me like it could be risky.A violently struggling bun is not a lethargic bun, so that’s very good. But very impractical when you must feed the bun things. If he’s eating properly on his own now and toiletting like a good boy, I think I’d just keep a very close eye. If he stops eating you’ll have to start him right back on meds and CC.
Did the vet tell you how high his blood glucose was? I’m wondering out of curiosity. It’s a way of measuring stress levels in a bun indirectly -stress causes cortisol to be released and cortisol elevates the blood glucose.
I hope he’ll keep eating, pooping and being active. I think you probably saved him by warming him up. The pain meds lower body temp and a bun in stasis is already prone to hypothermia, so warming him up was a really good call.
Thanks for the reply. I will probably ring the vet tomorrow but i’d rather not ring the out of hours number again if at all possible. I think i’m gonna try and get some of it into him and see what happens. If after 5/10 mins he’s too stressed then i’ll stop and monitor him. In regards to the blood Glucose, the vet didn’t give a number, she said it was a little high but nothing too much. If it had been very high then she said they’d need to do X-rays. Yes i’ll be honest when he was as cold as he was last night I didn’t think he was going to make it through; we now have the heating on so much in our house that myself and other half are walking around in shorts and a t-shirt!
He was eating normally after the first dose. He ate some pellets and a whole pile of greens (he wasn’t eating hay anyway, likely because of dental issues).
I really, really hope that your guy stays on track. I totally understand all the stress and empathize with not wanting to cause it! (For whatever it’s worth, those first couple of days I did have to take breaks when he just got too upset and come back to it a little bit later if there was more he needed to get.)
Id not call the out of hours number for a situation like this either. I think you can use your judgement regarding the meds. If you can get a little bit of meds in him it’s great, of course. As long as he’s eating food willingly and pooping he’s not in immediate danger.
My Bam also had slightly elevated blood glucose at his latest vet appt, and my vet said that’s not worrisome. It just means the bun is stressed, and buns are always stressed at the vet, that’s “normal” for the species.
It’s a tricky one – obviously stressing him out so much isn’t ideal but I’d be worried about relapsing. When Buttercup had stasis last time, we continued the ranitidine for 2 to 3 days after she’d returned to normal just to be extra sure. I would just be extra vigilant. Which I’m sure you are anyway!
And if he starts to show signs again, get the meds in him.
We’ve managed to get him to take it (for tonight at least)
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We picked him up the first time and had paws flying everywhere then tried again with a towel and he wasn’t having that either. I then tried following him around and waving the syringe at his face again (which i’ve been doing all night with no success) and he suddenly just sat there and let me give it to him without anyone holding him down. I think he’s realising that if he just takes it with no fuss then we won’t upset him and pick him up.
Heres hoping he remembers this every morning and evening for the next 5 days! At the very least if we can just get him to take tomorrows dose then there should be much less risk of his tummy going downhill again.
Hooray! I’m so happy to hear this.
Yay! Good boy ???
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