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FORUM DIET & CARE Bunny Rescued with broken leg, thin and possible snuffles

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    • Livie
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        Hi Everyone!

        I am new to bunnies but not new to rescue as many animals seem to make their way to me to heal. I most recently rescued a bunny from the side of the road being attacked by magpies. No one in the local community seems to be missing her. 

        She is thin, small and has a broken leg.   She wheezes when she eats and has a few coughing/sneezing fits throughout the day. She appears to have some crust near her eyes which I cleaned. 

         We went to the vet this past Friday (September 22nd) and they confirmed via x-ray she has a break just behind her wrist on her front right arm/leg.  They attempted to simply splint it even though it was slightly misaligned as she was showing adverse stress symptoms. They didn’t think she would survive light sedation. They had to abandon the splint attempt as she did almost die and was placed on oxygen for a period of time.

        We were discharged home with Medicam and Baytril for her wheezey chest instead.

        Since getting to know Rose I have noticed that she rests a lot. But likes to have head pats, cheek pats and will give me kisses sometimes. She likes to come out once a day for about ten minutes but is usually quite fine to rest for the whole day. She knows exactly when breakfast and supper are served and she is ready waiting. 

        She occasionally eats her timothy hay which is available at all times but has not tried her pellets that I have noticed. I give her a chopped blend of romaine and dandilion with either bok choy, collard, and kale 2x/day.  She has tried cucumber and celery (hated both) but loves apple, a bit of plum or green bean with her Baytril in it. I have given her a fresh rosemary leaf a few times over the last 6 days and will be getting some basil to help with inflammation as well.

        I am wondering if anyone has any advice for me in regards to Rose and the potential use of her leg when it heals? We are due back to the vet tomorrow (Thursday September 28th) for a check-in and a splint attempt now that she has settled in a bit with me. My hope is that Rose will eventually be able to use her right arm again.  Are there any resources out there that may benefit me in regards to physical therapy for that arm?

        I am very concerned at how thin Rose is. Are there any suggestions for things she may like that will improve her nutrition and weight?  I was reading about a mush you can make that involves blending timothy pellets, oat flour, ensure, plain pumpkin puree and V8.  Is this recommended? Or does anyone have any other suggestions/go to’s?

        What type of bedding/flooring should I be using in Rose’s cage?  I bought recycled paper bedding and paper litter. I am concerned the excess dust from the paper bedding may be irritating her lungs/breathing.  What are your suggestions for best cage lay-out. She is in a standard pet store cage at this time. My plan is to have my husband make Rose an enclosure out of some furniture once she is healed and feeling 100%.

        Lastly how old do you all think Rose is?  What type of bunny is she?  I was thinking she may be a dwarf rabbit but I am not sure as Rose is a complete mystery.  We don’t know where she came from or how she ended up at the side of the road by the park with a broken leg. 

        Thank you everyone, pictures of ROSE for reference but mostly for cuteness factor and attention! 

        Best, 

        Livie.


      • Luna
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          Hi! That is awesome that you rescued her . She is so cute! I’m not familiar with breeds, but for healthy weight gain definitely try alfalfa hay. I buy recycled paper bedding for Luna, but if dust is a concern, wood stove pellets without chemicals are a good choice (just make sure she doesn’t try to eat them like my bun did).


        • Dasher
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            You can try giving her some fresh grass and see if she likes it. My bunnies love it.


          • ownedbybunnies315
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              She is adorable! You could also try sticking a small litter box in one side of the cage with wood stove pellets, like Luna suggested, and then put fleece or cotton blankets in the rest of the cage. If she starts to chew on them, you’ll have to take them out, but if not, it would reduce the amount of dustiness in the cage. Alfalfa hay is a great idea, and you can also mix in alfalfa pellets with the timothy. It might encourage her to try the pellets. She might have some dwarf in her, since she is small, but her ears are a little large for a dwarf rabbit. She might be young. How are her toenails? Often, young rabbits have very thin, sharp nails. They get a little more dull as the rabbit grows.


            • Wick & Fable
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                She looks 7wo, +/- a week potentially. Definitely a dwarf. She doesn’t look full-fledge Netherland Dwarf (like Wick), as her eyes are not as large and her head doesn’t look as squished, so potentially she could be a lop? If he ears fall, then you’ll know, haha.

                For diet, since she’s obviously young, I’d hang back on the veggies a bit, as young rabbit digestive tracts aren’t fully equipped to handle veggies too well yet, and you want to instill good dietary habits. Her diet should be majority pellets, with unlimited hay (alfalfa hay; more dense in nutrients which is needed for a young rabbit). The pellets should be alfalfa as well, not timothy. Oxbow sells “Young” rabbit pellets. Oxbow generally is the best brand for everything. Following the instructions and information on the back is highly advised. Now all the alfalfa may cause excess calcium to exit through urine (cloudy/powdery pee)— the occasional is fine, but if it becomes frequent, switch the alfalfa hay to timothy, or alfalfa pellets to timothy. Some rabbits are better than others at getting out excess calcium, and if there’s too much, it literally forms a spherical calcium ball in their GI tract, blocking everything. When she gets older (mark your calendar for her being 6mo, assuming she’s about 7wo for now), you can transition her to limited timothy pellets (only about 1/8 cup if she’s less than 2lbs, which I predict she will be) and unlimited timothy/oat/orchard hay (can be one, two, or mixed. Depends on your purchasing desires and her taste). An adult rabbit (aka 6mo or older) diet should be 70-80% hay. This is because rabbits have very sensitive digestive systems, so we need to encourage a mainly-hay diet so the hay fibers and clean their gut accordingly. Whenever anyone posts anything about their rabbit being sick, everyone flocks to ask how much hay they’re eating. At 2-3mo, (aka now-ish) you can do vegetables, but in small quantities. For most rabbits, hay is the least preferable food item when pegged with pellets, veggies, and treats (anything with sugar, like fruits, carrots, etc.). This is problematic, so as owners, we need to do our best to encourage hay diet in the adult years by being a bit routine in our feeding schedule (Rabbit knows he/she only gets fed veggies in the morning, so he/she should eat hay during the day/night when he/she is hungry, rather than begging for veggies). At your rabbit’s current age, pellets should take up a good portion since they’re nutrient dense, but if you see poos that are really small, mal-formed, not solid/dry/formed, cut down on pellets and encourage more alfalfa hay. Typically, rabbits like hay fresh out of the bag more than hay that’s been sitting out, so rotate through hay, mix old hay with new hay, etc.. to try and encourage eating.

                In terms of her leg (admittedly skimmed those parts as I’m not personally experienced with it), I’d say if she ends up not being able to use it, her maneuverability should still be all right. As she gets older, weight distribution will be important on 3 paws, so monitor her nail-length to make sure they’re in tip-top shape to handle the weight shifting. You’ll want to observe how she does jumping, climbing, etc., to see if you need to default with just ramps for her (running up to higher levels) or if she can do steps (jumping up to higher levels). Defaulting to ramps only isn’t a bad idea, nor does it mean your rabbit isn’t a rabbit.

                You don’t actually need bedding, but you don’t want a wire-cage floor. Some people purchase or knab flooring samples from stores and use those. If you get a smooth floor, you’ll want to add some timothy mats or something so she can get a grip. Other options can be cloroplast. Pretty much any flooring is fine outside wire mesh. The cozier, the better for her, but the more likely she’ll pee there. It’s a balance thing.

                … Rabbits learn routine very quickly, so the food expectancy is not surprising.

                Is your vet rabbit-experienced? That. is. vital. for having a pet rabbit.

                — And as for snuffles, chest wheezing is worrisome. If her nasal discharge ever becomes colored (not clear), see the vet to get antibiotics, as it means it’s a URI (upper respiratory infection). The earlier treatment is started, the better. If you find the Baytril is not helping her symptoms, let your vet know so he/she can try a different antibiotic.

                The answers provided in this discussion are for general guideline purposes only. The information is not intended to diagnose or treat your pet. Seek the advice of your veterinarian or a qualified behaviorist.


              • Livie
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                  Thank-you!    

                  I will make some changes for Rose right away!

                  I truly appreciate everything you all have posted!!!

                  I will keep an eye on her symptoms, so far no nose discharge, but I have been very worried about her wheezing and fits so will consult the vet regarding her antibiotics and ask for a switch if the Baytril does not improve things.

                  I am making another trip to the pet store for a few things after work so will pick up recommendations. I live on 6 acres so I will have no problems with orchard grass in the summer but will grab some alfalfa for now. I will cut back on her veggies for now as I obviously have been spoling her! I will mix in some fresh timothy to try and entice her a bit more.

                  Thank you all again!!!  


                • Livie
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                    Thank-you! 

                    My current “farm vet” who cares for my alpacas and ducks is out so his staff recommended the current vet.  The vet was lovely and recently splinted another rabbit two weeks ago with a broken leg. She said most people do not realize how delicate rabbits can be.  I was very pleased with the care and attention we received as it was short notice and they squeezed me in.


                  • Wick & Fable
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                      Oh, keep with the water bowl (if that’s a water bowl in the picture), not a water bottle. Rabbits need to work harder to get water out of a bottle, so a rabbit with a bottle will naturally drink less than a rabbit with a bowl. Bowls may tip, so get a heavy bowl, or one angled so it can’t be thrown. Best to do two bowls, jsut in case one gets emptied or soiled. You can add a few drops of apple cider vinegar with the mother in the water to nullify urine smell and potentially help GI health generally. The mother in apple cider vinegar has great natural bacteria for rabbit stomach tracts.

                      The answers provided in this discussion are for general guideline purposes only. The information is not intended to diagnose or treat your pet. Seek the advice of your veterinarian or a qualified behaviorist.


                    • Livie
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                        Yes! I have her drinking from a water bowl. I will stick with it. It is a heavier glass one. I refresh it twice a day. 

                        I will add some apple cider vinegar with the mother tonight.

                        Thank you again! 


                      • Luna
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                          I’m glad the vet you found worked out! Please keep us updated with how the second splint attempt goes . I agree with Wick about the bowl, but a water bottle in addition to the bowl can come in handy just in case Rose manages to somehow tip over her bowl or gets bedding or soiling in it. The water bottle will give her a second water source just in case . And if you can, try to find a heavy ceramic bowl as opposed to glass. While the glass bowl is unlikely to break, accidents do happen, and the thought of broken glass is scary!


                        • tobyluv
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                            Thank you for rescuing her! She does look very young, so she needs the nutrition from pellets, especially since she is thin. If she isn’t eating pellets, you may need to get some Oxbow Critical Care. It’s normally fed to rabbits in a syringe, but a lot of rabbits don’t like to be force fed. You can try mixing up some and putting it in a dish. You can mix a little plain canned pumpkin or baby food with it to make it more enticing and she may eat it on her own. If you don’t have Critical Care (some vets carry it or you can get it online) you can crush some pellets and mix them with water, but the Critical Care is easier and has more nutrition.


                          • Livie
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                              Thank-you! The vet did give me some critical care and I have been sprinkling it on her food but she seems to hate it. I have mixed it up and tried to give it her that way too but no such luck.  I made Angel’s food last night.  I found the recipe on a Colorado Bunny Rescue Site. It was created for a rabbit named Angel who had all but two molars on opposite sides of her mouth, was underweight and malnourished. All she could eat was mush and thus Angel’s food came to be. Well I was skeptical but Rose loves it!  I am going to try to get her eating regular pellets by gradually phasing this out. I am worried as she snubs the food she should be eating like her timothy and pellets. I even bought her alfalfa and she won’t eat that either. 

                              I will switch to a ceramic water bowl as well as provide a bottle.

                              Thank you again for ALL the helpful advice. Rose and I sure appreciate it!!!

                              ***UPDATE!

                              The vet was able to splint ROSE! She was very brave. We have a second round of antibiotics (Baytril) and more pain meds (Medicam) as well.  We are due back next week as long as the splint holds up.    


                            • Luna
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                                Yay! She’s so lucky you found her and are giving her the care/love she needs .


                              • Livie
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                                  Very very sad news. On Sunday Rose took a horrible turn. We connected with her vet via emergency services and there was nothing more that we could do aside from drive 5 hours to have her placed on 24/7 critical care with oxygen. About 4 hours later she passed away in my home.

                                  I am absolutely devastated. Of course I didn’t sleep all night Sunday and had another horrible sleep Monday night. Thinking what more could I have done for her, done differently, etc.

                                  I am trying to take it easier but she was an absolute doll. I am sort of consoled knowing she was surrounded with love for her last week here and maybe that is why she found her way to me.


                                • tobyluv
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                                    I’m very sorry about the loss of Rose. It is so good that you rescued her so that she would know love and receive the best care possible after all that she had gone through.

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