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Hello – firstly wanted to thank you guys. You’ve all been a fountain of knowledge for me in adapting to life with a bunny.
My bunny Rumi is having some pretty upsetting behavioural issues and wanted to ask advice.
Rumi was neutered 4-5 weeks ago. Before puberty, he was a beautifully affectioante bunny but became very dominant after his balls dropped. He was pooing and spraying everywhere and stopped being affectionate, instead lunging at me a lot. After the op, he was a cuddle monster for a few days but bounced back. A week later a hormone surge from the depths of hell hit and he began spraying my stuff, my body and leaving mountains of poo that – to be honest – for an animal that size i was impressed. All this I was expecting.
But his dominance is not going down. He lives in my living room and pre-puberty had worked up to having free run of the place but I can no longer leave him with access to the sofa as he will always spray the area i sit in if he can get to it and leave a small everest of poo. He spends most of the time I’m with him now lying down in his hutch watching me – if i come close to him he either stays lying down or turns away from me. He will rarely acknowledge me otherwise unless i’m giving him a treat which he will snatch out of my hand and run away with (he used to very happily eat treats out of my hand or sit munching them off my lap) and no longer comes when i call him, instead bunny flopping onto his side while maintaining direct eye contact.. From what I know of dogs (my friend works for a pet day care) this is classic dominance behaviour (my vet seems to agree) but the problem i’m having is i don’t know what to do.
The problem is being made worse when i need to do something important like clean out his hutch, check his ears, teeth or brush him. He will fight me even though i remain calm, low voiced, slow moving and have plenty of treats for him – do everything i need to and which, before puberty, would leave him pretty content even while i was keeping him in a set place to check him/groom him. His baby coat was molting this week to the point that i worried he’d start ingesting hairballs but he wouldn’t let me brush him. I tried the rabbit dominance tactic (a hand gently over the back of his shoulders while stroking him) which used to quieten him straight away before the neutering and it just pissed him off. I ended up having to pin him between my legs to brush the molt off.
So this is worrying me enough but to make it worse- as this is all i can do when i need to look after him – i think he’s starting to become scared of me. Also, as he is a solo bunny, i’m worried about him feeling lonely if for whatever reason he’s decided he doesn’t like me anymore. I’m now stuck in this weird middle ground of not wanting to frighten him but wanting him to know the pecking order (i know animals are generally far happier when there’s a set hierarchy. I worry that the situation won’t improve. I’m aware most of this is probably down to me doing the wrong things / not doing the right things and want to remedy it as soon as i can. I love having him here and want to make sure he’s happy but am sick of scrubbing spray off my arms and don’t want him to become afraid of me.
Any help would be really appreciated – apologies if this is a bit rambly – tried to include all the info i thought was relevant
Best
Rumi
This is still a hormonal surge. Males can take up to two months, in some rare cases three months for their hormones to drain after surgery
I dont mean to be rude with this sentence, but the more you try to push him, the more he will fight back with lunging and nipping you. The spraying should die down with time, but so long as you continue to fight him, he will continue to fight back. Thats not hormonal, but rather a rabbit defending themselves.
Rabbits dont see dominance with humans. They only see dominance with other rabbits. To him, youre a human. He will never try to hold a dominance over you, likewise he will never see you dominant over him. Rabbits dont see dominance at all with humans. When you try to push dominance onto him, all he sees is a human being mean and possibly hurting him. See him as a fluffy friend, and he will see you as a friend as well. There is no pecking order. Youll need to erase your thought process on dominance around him or he will continue to fear you.
Holding him down and pinning him is only going to make him made; its not going to show any form of dominance. Likely, he only sees you being mean to him. I recommend you stop pinning him as its really mean and he will never understand why youre doing that to him. The more you do this, the more your bond with him will break. He will learn youre someone mean to him instead of seeing you as a friend. You note that you think hes becoming scared of you, this is why.
Flopping is how rabbits relax. You call him over to you, but hes tired and trying to relax, so he flops. If you want his attention, go pet him if he allows it. If he doesnt allow pets, assume hes trying to sleep.
To brush him, consider bunny burritoing him and brushing him a bit at a time. You can also try to get in some brushing when hes eating his greens or hay. If hes comfortable with you petting him while hes bunny flopped, try to brush him then, too.
I haven’t dealt with a hormonal male before, so I can’t offer direct advice on that but I agree with Mikey that 1) He’s still in his hormonal phase and needs more time to settle down and 2) Rabbits and humans don’t have dominance hierarchies.
It was really hard for my husband to get used to the dominance thing with rabbits after having dogs. Unlike dogs, rabbits definitely know we are not fellow rabbits and that they are not humans! They can be the best of friends, and even love us but establishing dominance is never going to work. When we got Thor, we had a terrible problem with her nipping us (not hormonal, just a learned behavior). We tried the holding down trick which we read online and it just made her more and more crazy! In retrospect, it was only when we stopped doing that and just ignored her when she nipped that her behavior improved.
Patience and love will win a bunny heart over ![]()
Hi both. Many thanks Mikey (and no offence taken – wrote this post to get advice so thank you for giving it) for clarifying how he views me – it’s literally the opposite of what I was told by the people I got him from so changes lots of things. As for pinning him – I’d been advised to do it as that’s how rabbits dominate each other and am really worried now I’ve been hurting him – thank you for letting me know.
Yeah, sounds like he just needs time and for me to chill out – what I expected but I wanted to be sure as I’ve been getting conflicting advice and not seeing him settle. Yours makes the most sense to me so I’ll back off and give him space.
Thanks again
Good
I used to do the pin thing as well because a different online forum said its acceptable to do, but I noticed my bunny started to get upset everytime I did it. I asked the vet about it, and she said it was an old way of thinking and doesnt work at all with bunnies so I stopped. Blue is my best friend now that we’ve learned to communicate better. If hes nervous around you, just change the way you are around him and stop the dominance thinking. You can definitely rebuild the friendship if he is nervous ![]()
I’m glad I was set straight myself, as I gave that advice about trying to establish a dominant position (which I’d read on several major house-rabbit sites) only to be corrected. From what I understand, a better way to do it when nipped too painfully is to utter a short, high-pitched squeal or squeak and then say “No!” clearly and firmly (but not yelling). Repeat it consistently and the bun will get the idea.
LOL My BB access is temperamental, so when I saw this post I was going to just copy and paste my comment from a very similar dominance-related post I replied to recently, but the whole thread seems to have vanished so I gave up. Glad everyone else gave such good collective advice… I feel less annoyed now about my lazy server.
The ‘pinning’ you mention and which others bring up may be a misunderstanding. It’s not a technique used for any prolonged period of time, or for restraining purposes (like grooming by hoomins), or for establishing yourself as top bun (because as others have said, that’s strictly speaking impossible). The brief and gentle pressure on top of a bun’s shoulder blades and/or top of head can be used to correct certain types of undesirable behaviour, especially when used in conjunction with subsequent whole-body petting – it often results in the bun ‘melting’ into a bunny puddle and therefore being distracted from digging at a rug, for instance. The degree of effectiveness varies from bun to bun, but it’s got something to do with the ‘sensation’ of being groomed by mom or schooled by a warren superior.
Hope that helps a bit.
Interestingly enough, I observed Panda exhibiting “dominance” behavior toward Fernando at a couple of points last evening. I don’t know whether it had anything to do with my having scolded her for being greedy about banana treats
, but I saw her mounting Fernando a couple of times, and after the first occasion she shook/flipped her head at about fifteen-second intervals for several minutes, then stopped. I get the distinct impression my little diva was miffed about something, but she got back to normal pretty quickly; I woke up around 1 am this morning, and could see the pair bunloafing snuggled up to each other on the upper deck – I can see their cage easily from my bed.
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