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Forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A Flemish has a black wound

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    • MyFlemishisWillieNelson
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        First time posting here.. but I am asking for what I can do until I can find a vet experienced with rabbits, ours is no longer in our area!!!

        My Flemish has been hurt on his face, we think it might have been a car or something as there are some roaming around from time to time. Willie Nelson (my Flemish) likes to spend some time outside and always come back when he’s called, he’s literally like a dog. He’s amazing. I noticed that he had been acting a little secluded and wouldn’t run up to us all like he normally is. Well, I was holding him and checking him out and sure enough, there it was. A tear on the side of his face. I am heartbroken. It looks black now and almost like a scab that was scratched half off..I don’t know if it is dried blood or what, but when I was wiping it and trying to see how bad it was between all of the fur sticking to it and it doesn’t smell bad like how an infectious wound would smell… I’m trying to ask what the best approach would be unto I can find a new vet for him since ours was 2 miles away and they don’t work there any longer. Which would have been great to know before I had an injured rabbit, but I can’t worry about that now. What is the best way to clean this so he isn’t stuck like this until I find an exotic animal vet?? Help me please


      • Q8bunny
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          Ok. First off, if you can, trim the fur around the wound with safety/baby scissors. Then bathe the wound with a damp washcloth dipped in warm water and iodine or hydrogen peroxide or whatever disinfectant you have. Then apply Neosporin or an antibiotic ointment WITHOUT pain killer. Then keep a very close eye on the wound. Do this at least three times a day until it heals.

          Although really, I would personally take him to the vet. ANY vet is better than no vet when it comes to injuries. Bunnies are such fragile and sensitive creatures that I would simply want the peace of mind.

          The reason I’m extremely worried in your situation is because you said he’s been behaving more reserved. Buns are pray animals. This means they’re very good at hiding pain. So if he did get swiped by a car, it is VERY likely that he has internal injuries he’s hiding – a life and death situation.

          So please, take him to a vet even if it’s not an amazing rabbit vet. In circumstances like this, it’s better than no vet.

          And also, please stop letting him free roam around outside. I know Flemmies are big and can behave like dogs. But they are NOT dogs. There’s a reason rabbits don’t live long enough to get old in the wild.

          Best of luck. (((((((((bun bun)))))))))


        • Bam
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            Q8 has given you excellent advice. Dilute povidine-iodine is safe for rabbits. So is triple antibiotic ointment (neosporine is one brand) without added painkiller. I’d also try and locate a vet sooner rather than later because he is showing signs of withdrawal.

            Was it a car that hit him or did you mean a cat? Cats carry some nasty bacteria, I was recently bit by a cat and had to receive systemic antibiotics.


          • MyFlemishisWillieNelson
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              I meant cat, my apologies…but OH MY BUNNYKINS. Have I been through a hell of a past few days..
              Tried every vet within 2 hours of me and either the exotic vet was on vacation, not in unti Monday morning or they were deathly allergic to rabbits (odd for an exotic vet)..
              I was researching the past 2 days on his wound, because it was very..VERY weird looking and growing.
              Have you guessed what it was yet? If you said warble, you’re a winner. I thought BOT FLIES were in fricken AFRICA!!
              Needless to say, I literally either had to make him suffer until Monday mornings vet appointment I made, or take it out myself. I was actually scared of having it burst and kill him, but Willie Nelson ended up scratching the black skin I was wondering about and I saw a huge larvae. So I got it out, trimmed the black skin the best I could and flushed out the hole that remains in his face. Poor guy…he literally knew I was helping him because he let me do everything while keeping his head showing me the yucky spot. I gave him a water soaked cotton pad to lick while I worked on him..
              Any advice on whether or not there is an antibiotic or something specifically for rabbits I can put on his…hole.. while it heals to kill infection? Should I still take him to the vet or only if the wound looks worse by Monday morning?
              P.s. I appreciate the replies folks…it helps me learn from my mistakes before I can’t take them back because he is gone.
              Also, if I put him in an outdoor hutch for his play time, what are the odds of this happening again? I’m really freaked out by it and want to avoid it at all costs.


            • jerseygirl
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                Hi there

                Any advice on whether or not there is an antibiotic or something specifically for rabbits I can put on his…hole.. while it heals to kill infection? Should I still take him to the vet or only if the wound looks worse by Monday morning?

                Vets in the area should be familiar with what to do for botfly warble / cuterebra so a regular vet is better then none. I’d be cheeky and just turn up.
                Here’s a little more about cuterebra. For anyone reading that’s sensitive to this sort of thing, be warned the link contains images.
                CUTEREBRA

                If you have terrible luck with vets, I would consider ringing a wild life rehabber for advice. They’ll likely advise you see a vet also, but they would have seen a few cases of these in various animals, including wild rabbits. They may have some useful advice for you.

                Also, if I put him in an outdoor hutch for his play time, what are the odds of this happening again? I’m really freaked out by it and want to avoid it at all costs.

                I’d be sufficiently freaked out to put him out there too. Is he housed inside but goes out side sometimes?
                While he has this wound, I 100% would not let him be outside. It’s very much a site more flies (bot fly or not) could find attractive.


              • jerseygirl
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                  Also useful to print out and take with you if you see a vet not experienced with rabbits.
                  *Safe* antibiotics: http://www.medirabbit.com/Safe_medication/Antibiotics/Safe_antibiotics.htm
                  Unsafe antibiotics for Rabbits: http://www.medirabbit.com/Unsafe_medication/dangerous_antibiotics.htm


                • Q8bunny
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                    Crikey! Climate change equals weird migrations??

                    In any case… I’m still rooting for a vet -any vet- even if you do as Jersey suggests and show up with a box of antihistamines and your bun.

                    Manuka honey applied liberally inside the wound is a great natural antibiotic, in case you want something other than Neosporin.


                  • jerseygirl
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                      Yes, I was thinking about Manuka also, Q8. I know it can be used in abscess sites after theyve been cleaned out. For Gooseman’s abscess site, I used a gel called Medihoney which contained Manuka.

                      The higher UMF number, the better.


                    • Bam
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                        Theo&Mickey’s mum used Manuka honey for Theo’s infected neuter:
                        https://binkybunny.com/FORUM/tabid/54/aft/161305/Default.aspx

                        MyFlemishWillieNelson: How horrible! So glad you got the vile thing out! I think botflies exist in most places. We even have a type here (Sweden) that normally lives on reindeer.

                        You can use mosquito netting over his outdoors run. I do that with my bunny, primarily to minimize risk of flystrike. It’s a bit of work, but so worth it imo. It also protects against mosquitos that in some places can carry tularemia. 


                      • MyFlemishisWillieNelson
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                          Yes, he is an indoor bun.. I would usually let him out in our fenced in yard to play buuuut… Yeah that’s not happening ever again. Lol
                          I’ll have to cut some delicious clovers and other goodies to help him still ‘forage’ but he has run of the house for quite a bit of the day since he is litter trained and hopefully that’s good enough for him now. I’m lucky, he literally doesn’t munch a single wire or wall or anything.

                          I think I am going to take the extra netting I had placed over my kale garden and wrap it around the hutch everywhere. That way I feel a bit more comfortable letting him out there.
                          I want to literally scrub the ever loving crap out of the hutch too- kill any eggs since I spent a good chunk of the night having nightmares of fly strike and parasites…ick!! Worst night ever. What do you suggest for a good hutch disinfectant? Bleach followed by a good hose rinse?

                          I still can’t believe what was a simple scratch turned into a horrible nightmare for Willie Nelson..he is so much happier today, binkying around with a giant hole in his face. Poor lad.
                          As for the honey…I am all about natural honey!! I’ve never heard of this type though! Where can I get it!?
                          As for the vet, yep Monday morning I am still going to take him in so they can give him a proper look down. I still can’t believe how many vets had no idea what I was going on about..

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