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So I have a 10 week old mini lop buck. I don’t allow unlimited pellets, because of personal convictions (I feel it may create a habit of over eating). I noticed he was eating his pellets really fast, and someone here suggested that I scatter them so they aren’t all right in his face. Well, since I am not home all day long and I don’t give unlimited pellets, I had an idea. I have a treat ball that wasn’t being used and I started putting servings of pellets in there for while I am at work. This way, I know he’s not eating too fast, and I don’t have pellets scattered all over my bedroom floor. I give him some pellets when I first wake up, about 1/8 cup. Then before leaving for work I put about 1/4 cup in the treat ball, I break them in half so they don’t get stuck and he can get them out easily with some rolling around. Before bed, I put about another 1/8 cup in the treat ball for him to have through the night. Apparently, some people around me feel that I am being cruel by “forcing him to work for food” ???? I thought that it was a good way to make sure he was getting pellets throughout the day (since I’m not home) but also to make sure he isn’t choking because he’s a little piglet. I also thought that he might enjoy having to do a little mock “foraging” to get his food. Do you guys think I’m being cruel??? ![]()
Also is 1/2 cup enough pellets for the little guy? He eats timothy pellets (I didn’t get alfalfa pellets when I got him because I just have a TON of timothy pellets on hand), and he gets alfalfa hay in one litter box, timothy hay in the other box, and I have oat hay and orchard grass on hand to give them every few days for variety. He eats any type of hay I give him, and he actually seems to like alfalfa the least (I know, what?!?!?). ![]()
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I don’t know about what amounts he should be getting, I didn’t feed mine unlimited either, in fact I only gave a couple of tablespoons each because a) they didn’t eat enough hay and b) my vet recommended only a small amount of pellets. But I certainly don’t think you’re being cruel! I tried using a treat ball but mine would often give up. They don’t like working too hard lol. I don’t see an issue though, if he’s happy to work for it, why not! If you’re worried you could always put half his daily amount in the ball and have the remainder in a bowl or scattered.
It’s the opposite of cruel. Making an animal work for it’s food is a type of enrichment. It allows the animal to perform its natural behaviors. No wild rabbit gets its food served on a plate. It spends a considerable amount of its waking time foraging for food.
This is a very important aspect of animal welfare. Not only for rabbits, but for dogs, cats, horses, chickens, animals in zoos.
It’s good if he likes the alfalfa the least since he should be weaned off of alfalfa at 4-5 months. That can sometimes be difficult if the bun has a sweet tooth for alfalfa.
I’d recommend you weigh him and make a weight curve to see so he gets the appropriate amount of food. It’s difficult to see with the naked eye, but a wight curve doesn’t lie. 1/2 cup sounds to me like plenty for a mini lop.
It’s great that you’re giving him foraging toys! Buns need mental stimulation
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Yes I think he does enjoy it! Sometimes he pushes it around while it’s empty, maybe wishful thinking?
But I guess it’s just like parenting – people always want to tell you what THEY think you are doing wrong. Mind you, none of these people have rabbits, so I just thought “they don’t understand”… I just started to wonder though because EVERYONE says that it is mean or cruel. As you said Bam, I thought that it would be a nice way to stimulate foraging because it’s not just served up in the wild.
I think that sometimes, people tend to forget that even though their pets are domesticated, they still have natural instincts that need to be satisfied. I think this more true for rabbits than cats and dogs because, if I’m not mistaken, rabbits haven’t been domesticated all that long in the grand scheme of things.
Thanks guys! ![]()
It IS cruel. Cruel and unusual. How would you like it if someone made YOU walk around for your Cheetos?
Nah, seriously, what you’re doing is awesome because in the long run, it benefits the bunner. Nuts to what others say. Especially bunless others. Armchair experts.
I think it’s great! Definitely not cruel.
I’ve been considering doing this for Moose, since he WOLFS his pellets down super fast. I sometimes will put his pellets hidden in stacking cups or in an egg carton, then it’s like a pellet pinata!
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Love that image!
Armchair experts XD XD Q8 you are too funny…
I put treats in a logic toy for my other bun…looks like she is digging her way to china trying to get at those naners! ![]()
It is fine for a solo bun, in a pair, I have found a smart bun knows to follow the ball closely, when pushed by the other bun, and swipe the treats fast, leaving one bun doing all the work and the other getting all the pellets ![]()
How unfair!! Do you think that would be a problem if they each have their own to roll?
You’d have to try it, but watch out for smart buns, who would sooner let somebun else do the hard work than roll their own treat ball!
I will have to keep an eye out then! ![]()
Treat balls are wonderful and others are being judgy without knowledge.
We a have 2 different kinds of treat balls here… The slim cat ball is too easy so we’ve taped 2 of 3 holes shut and added a ping pong ball inside. The game of getting the treats out has never lasted more then 10 minutes even with these challenges in place. [ edit: So if you’re cruel then I must be cruel and unusual/s ]
Hazel starts circling our feet the moment she sees us pick up the ball and hears it open. It’s an exciting game that pays out her favourite reward.
As long as your bun has unlimited access to hay and the treat balls are just her pellet ration then others can go fly a kite because you’re doing what’s best.
Posted By Gina.Jenny on 8/01/2017 8:35 AM
It is fine for a solo bun, in a pair, I have found a smart bun knows to follow the ball closely, when pushed by the other bun, and swipe the treats fast, leaving one bun doing all the work and the other getting all the pellets![]()
The shelter coordinator at my local rescue was telling me a story about a pair like that! But in the context that originally one bun didn’t really like the other one, until they learned they could profit off their hard work with the treat ball! ![]()
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Posted By GeorgieTheBunny on 8/01/2017 9:51 AM
Treat balls are wonderful and others are being judgy without knowledge.We a have 2 different kinds of treat balls here… The slim cat ball is too easy so we’ve taped 2 of 3 holes shut and added a ping pong ball inside. The game of getting the treats out has never lasted more then 10 minutes even with these challenges in place. [ edit: So if you’re cruel then I must be cruel and unusual/s ]
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Hazel starts circling our feet the moment she sees us pick up the ball and hears it open. It’s an exciting game that pays out her favourite reward.
As long as your bun has unlimited access to hay and the treat balls are just her pellet ration then others can go fly a kite because you’re doing what’s best.
https://www.amazon.com/Snack-Ball-D…treat+ball
I have this treat ball, which has an adjustable opening! I close it smaller so it takes some time rolling around ![]()
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Neat~O BunNoob!
I’ve never seen one like that before. This ad doesn’t ship to Canada but I think I’m going to have to watch for this at my local pet stores ![]()
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